Official Justice League Status Update Thread

[dnno1]

Didn't Charles Roven or someone like mention that The Flash would not be a JLA spin off?

I don't know anything about that. The latest that was published on th film was an interview with David Dobkin last October and as of then, it was to be a spin-off of Justice League (according to him). If you could produce a later report saying otherwise, I would have to go with that.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Didn't Charles Roven or someone like mention that The Flash would not be a JLA spin off?

Posted June 6, 2008:

I'm developing The Flash and had the same kind of conversation with my producing partner on that - also Alex Gardner - and David Dobkin who we are developing for him to direct. The end result was we just felt that until that movie starting shooting we needed to just do whatever we were going to do creatively and then if there was an impact, well we would deal with it then.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5036&Itemid=99

 

[dnno1]

Posted June 6, 2008:



http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5036&Itemid=99

I think we are talking spin-off here and not co-existence in the same universe. According to Merriam Webster a spin-off is an imitative or derivative work of an earlier product. This would all depend on the timing of the two franchises (whichever one comes first) and has does not necessarily have to share continuity (similar to "Catwoman" and the Batman franchise). Like I said before David Dobkin said that this would be a spin-off film. This would imply that it would have to come after "Justice League: Mortal" if this is to be the case.

 

[Showtime]

I don't know how one necessarily influences the other since they are different franchises with different GL's. They could even be in the same universe for that matter. As far as flash. The director specifically stated that it would be a spin-off from the Justice League film. Until further notice of a change in plans, I think that it the direction it will be going, and any thing else would just be speculation.

Umm...wasn't that BEFORE the movie was stalled and packed away? Why would the Flash be a spin off of a movie that has been thrust back into development?

 

[biolumen]

Clint over at Moviehole has picked up on what Miller said to the Daily Telegraph.

Justice League on for '09?

Author: Clint Morris Date: Sunday, August 3rd, 2008 Time: 7:38 am

In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, in which he's largely [and understandably] quizzed about Megan 'Wonder Woman' Gale's acting ability ("She got the job because she blitzed her screen test. I mean, I had no idea she was so good"), "Justice League of America" director George Miller reveals that the film is indeed still happening - it just won't film down under as planned.

Miller says the stalled project - which he seems to think is going to happen early next year - will head offshore.

And from the sounds of it, Megan Gale - don't know about the rest of the attached cast (see below) - is still on board to be his Amazonian Princess.
Before the film was postponed/canceled/tabled earlier this year, Common ("Wanted") was attached to play The Green Lantern, Adam Brody ("The OC") was The Flash, Arnie Hammer ("Desperate Housewives") was to be Batman, Teresa Palmer ("December Boys") was Talia al Ghul, and Jay Baruchel ("Knocked Up") was villain Max Lord. I'm thinking they might need to biggen their names come '09, right? especially if they wanna do anywhere near the business - ha! - of "The Dark Knight".

http://www.moviehole.net/200814555-justice-league-on-for-09

 

[dnno1]

Umm...wasn't that BEFORE the movie was stalled and packed away? Why would the Flash be a spin off of a movie that has been thrust back into development?

Because the director said so, and if it has been stalled, it is more than likely because of the delay of the Justice League film (and hence further proof that it was to be a spin-off).

 

[I Am The Knight]

Clint over at Moviehole has picked up on what Miller said to the Daily Telegraph.



http://www.moviehole.net/200814555-justice-league-on-for-09

So it's supposed to film early next year for a 2010 release?

 

[biolumen]

Good question. IF this movie is being set for a 2009 start, it would certainly have to be for a 2010 release IF Nolan's Batman 3 has 2011 reserved for it. Otherwise, I suppose it could possibly be made for 2011 (with a late 2009 start) if Nolan has said 'enough' or has chosen to do something else before Batman 3, something big enough that would require pushing Batman 3 out to 2012.

That last scenario is quite unlikely, however. Warners isn't going to want to wait 4 years for the next installment of Batman.

 

[TheVileOne]

We've seen all that crap before. Miller still believes the movie is happening and he's directing it.

Tom Arnold still believes True Lives 2 is right around the corner.

 

[jmc]

Good question. IF this movie is being set for a 2009 start, it would certainly have to be for a 2010 release IF Nolan's Batman 3 has 2011 reserved for it. Otherwise, I suppose it could possibly be made for 2011 (with a late 2009 start) if Nolan has said 'enough' or has chosen to do something else before Batman 3, something big enough that would require pushing Batman 3 out to 2012.

That last scenario is quite unlikely, however. Warners isn't going to want to wait 4 years for the next installment of Batman.

WB are not going to release a JL film with another Batman in it before Nolan's third film (assuming he makes it), he and Bale are WB's new golden boys, they're not gonna do anything to piss them off, I'll guarantee you JL is the furthest thing from WB mind at the moment, WB want a third Batman film from these two and they'll do what ever it takes to get them to come back.

 

[TheVileOne]

Nolan and Bale Batman > Miller's JL.

JMC spells it out pretty well.

 

[Superark]

WB are not going to release a JL film with another Batman in it before Nolan's third film (assuming he makes it), he and Bale are WB's new golden boys, they're not gonna do anything to piss them off, I'll guarantee you JL is the furthest thing from WB mind at the moment, WB want a third Batman film from these two and they'll do what ever it takes to get them to come back.

EXACTLY!

 

[Showtime]

Because the director said so, and if it has been stalled, it is more than likely because of the delay of the Justice League film (and hence further proof that it was to be a spin-off).

That doesn't explain Green Lantern, why would the spin off Flash and not Green Lantern? Also, if there is indeed a Green Lantern movie going forward, then that would mean Justice League is probably pushed back? I think we're spinning wheels here.

So it's supposed to film early next year for a 2010 release?

Good question. IF this movie is being set for a 2009 start, it would certainly have to be for a 2010 release IF Nolan's Batman 3 has 2011 reserved for it. Otherwise, I suppose it could possibly be made for 2011 (with a late 2009 start) if Nolan has said 'enough' or has chosen to do something else before Batman 3, something big enough that would require pushing Batman 3 out to 2012.

That last scenario is quite unlikely, however. Warners isn't going to want to wait 4 years for the next installment of Batman.

Something seems strange about these timelines.

 

[dnno1]

That doesn't explain Green Lantern, why would the spin off Flash and not Green Lantern? Also, if there is indeed a Green Lantern movie going forward, then that would mean Justice League is probably pushed back? I think we're spinning wheels here.

Please see my previous post again for an answer on the Flash. No one of any authority has ever indicated that Green Lantern would be a spin-off film. As for why, I had also mentioned before that it has its own potential for spin-offs and can lure a different market from Justice League and the superhero genre (that would be the Sci-Fi fantasy market). Of course this is speculation, but I could see it working that angle without the need of support from the Justice League.

 

[Showtime]

Please see my previous post again for an answer on the Flash. No one of any authority has ever indicated that Green Lantern would be a spin-off film. As for why, I had also mentioned before that it has its own potential for spin-offs and can lure a different market from Justice League and the superhero genre (that would be the Sci-Fi fantasy market). Of course this is speculation, but I could see it working that angle without the need of support from the Justice League.

I saw your previous post, and you are assuming that The Flash was stalled because of Justice League. Why are your assumptions breaking news?

None of these characters need the support of a Justice League film, maybe in your opinion they do, but in reality they don't. You only believe that they need support, because for some reason you really really want this version of JL with George Miller to happen. Which of course is your opinion and are entitled to it.

I don't believe there should be two Batmans bataranging around on screen. Espeically after what has happened with Dark Knight. I think that would be completely ridiculous and I think WB would be even more ridiculous to do it. Since it doesn't seem they are rushing with any other properties at this point, and they don't have to because of DK, I am not holding my breath for a big Justice League announcement. George Miller can talk about it all he wants, and Gale's publicists can push it until Happy Feet comes home, but it doesn't mean it is going to happen.

You wanting it to happen and it happening are two different things, but nobody at WB has said this movie is back in production. It is in development, check out the slate of movies in development and tell me how many of those films actually happen. Sure Justice League might happen, but it could be 5 years from now.

 

[biolumen]

Slash Film says they're hearing this movie might be back on.

Also, about that Justice League movie… Unfortunately, I’m hearing it might be back on. Seems like after the success of Marvel Entertainment’s Iron Man, DC is hot to get some projects on the fast track. I haven’t been able to confirm this with a second source, but it looks like the project might not be as dead as everyone first believed. And if so, is George Miller still in line to helm the project or did Warner Bros reach out to another SUPER director? I just wish this project would die the death it deserves. Either that or get a director to completely overhaul everything, because right now it smells like bad goods.

This would follow my line of thinking that because of TDK, IM and Hancock's huge success, Warner Bros. wants to get more superhero product out as quickly as possible, and this movie is likely the easiest to ramp up to full production. Everything else is still in relatively early developmental stages.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/08/04...ast-track-justice-league-back-in-development/

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Slash Film says they're hearing this movie might be back on.

This would follow my line of thinking that because of TDK, IM and Hancock's huge success, Warner Bros. wants to get more superhero product out as quickly as possible, and this movie is likely the easiest to ramp up to full production. Everything else is still in relatively early developmental stages.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/08/04...ast-track-justice-league-back-in-development/

Slash Film is probably hinting that they approached Singer as the director (or Donner?).
Could JL be reformatted as a Superman Returns sequel with Singer and Routh? With no new Superman script ready and the JL one getting praise from the executives, that would be a really easy road to take.

 

[GreenKToo]

I wish to God W.B. themselves would say something. All this silence from them is downright silly.

 

[dnno1]

I saw your previous post, and you are assuming that The Flash was stalled because of Justice League. Why are your assumptions breaking news?

I never said it was breaking news. I was bringing up the facts on the subject to remind everyone why the Flash project is not really moving right now. The director has indicated that he wants it to be a spin-off film. In addition with the bad year for productions this is why there is a delay.

None of these characters need the support of a Justice League film, maybe in your opinion they do, but in reality they don't. You only believe that they need support, because for some reason you really really want this version of JL with George Miller to happen. Whichof course is your opinion and are entitled to it.

Now that is your opinion and I would beg to differ. If that were the case (that the characters needed no support) then they would have had their own film franchises a long time ago. Outside of Superman and Batman only two of them have had television series and one of those didn't even make it through a season. They are definitely not as popular, and with the success of films with minor characters (ala Daredevil, Elektra, Catwoman, Ghost Rider, et al.) I think that the litmus test of an ensemble film like Justice League (it doesn't have to be that project) would not only give them exposure and a safe haven, but allow producers to get an idea which characters might be popular enough to get their own solo franchise before they sink a mint into a loser.

I don't believe there should be two Batmans bataranging around on screen. Espeically after what has happened with Dark Knight. I think that would be completely ridiculous and I think WB would be even more ridiculous to do it. Since it doesn't seem they are rushing with any other properties at this point, and they don't have to because of DK, I am not holding my breath for a big Justice League announcement. George Miller can talk about it all he wants, and Gale's publicists can push it until Happy Feet comes home, but it doesn't mean it is going to happen.

So the truth comes out. You are one of the nay sayers. I clearly disagree with this since exposure of the character only serves to help the other minor characters as well as diversify the Batman franchise. There are already multiple versions of Batman floating around and they are clearly not the same. One does not affect the other because we are discerning creatures and are smart enough to tell the difference and choose what we like and want to see.

You wanting it to happen and it happening are two different things, but nobody at WB has said this movie is back in production. It is in development, check out the slate of movies in development and tell me how many of those films actually happen. Sure Justice League might happen, but it could be 5 years from now.

I never said that is was happening right now, just that it wasn't dead.

 

[Showtime]

I never said it was breaking news. I was bringing up the facts on the subject to remind everyone why the Flash project is not really moving right now. The director has indicated that he wants it to be a spin-off film. In addition with the bad year for productions this is why there is a delay.

Nobody ever said that Flash was dead because of Justice League, that is your speculation.

Now that is your opinion and I would beg to differ. If that were the case (that the characters needed no support) then they would have had their own film franchises a long time ago. Outside of Superman and Batman only two of them have had television series and one of those didn't even make it through a season. They are definitely not as popular, and with the success of films with minor characters (ala Daredevil, Elektra, Catwoman, Ghost Rider, et al.) I think that the litmus test of an ensemble film like Justice League (it doesn't have to be that project) would not only give them exposure and a safe haven, but allow producers to get an idea which characters might be popular enough to get their own solo franchise before they sink a mint into a loser.

I think Justice League made sense, but then two things happened. Iron Man and Dark Knight. I think now the plan is different.

so the truth comes out. You are one of the nay sayers. I clearly disagree with this since exposure of the character only serves to help the other minor characters as well as diversify the Batman franchise. There are already multiple versions of Batman floating around and they are clearly not the same. One does not affect the other because we are discerning creatures and are smart enough to tell the difference and choose what we like and want to see.

A nay sayer? In relation to what?

Where are there multiple versions of Batman on film at the moment? There is only one Batman on film. Christian Bale. Any other version you can find in the comics or animated features and tv. Not sure what you're talking about.

I never said that is was happening right now, just that it wasn't dead.

I didn't say JL was dead, just this version of JL as we knew it.

 

[Showtime]

Slash Film is probably hinting that they approached Singer as the director (or Donner?).
Could JL be reformatted as a Superman Returns sequel with Singer and Routh? With no new Superman script ready and the JL one getting praise from the executives, that would be a really easy road to take.

You think Singer? Somebody else said that...I don't know. I could see Donner.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

You think Singer? Somebody else said that...I don't know. I could see Donner.

Well, he has a contract to direct a new Superman movie, and JL could be considered a Superman movie.

 

[Gotham]

You think Singer? Somebody else said that...I don't know. I could see Donner.

Singer would be an interesting choice. But that would make me wonder how they would do a Superman sequel with Bryan.

 

[Showtime]

They wouldn't.

 

[Gotham]

They wouldn't.

I know.

Maybe they'd make Justice League with Brandon Routh as Superman after all? I can't see Bryan Singer leaving a sequel behind to direct an entirely new Superman.