Superman Returns Official Rate and Review Superman Returns thread!!!

[Kevin Roegele]

I think it was a beautifully made film,it's problem was the ediitng,someone needed to curb PJ's fanboyism and tighten it up by 40 minutes

Well said.

Back to Superman, I think many people expected a movie and got a film.

 

[raybia]

http://www.moviehole.net/mailbag/20060727_moviehole_mailbag_27706.html

From Moviehole today:

You invited people to post their thoughts on “Superman
Returns”, so here goes.... The first time I saw it, I was on the fence. I couldn't tell if I liked it or hated it. This happens rarely, since usually I will know if I like or hate a movie when it is over. Only two kinds of movies really call for a second viewing: Ones I ****ing loved to death... and ones that get me stuck on the fence.
The second viewing led me to decide... I didn't really like it that much. Sure, it has its moments... but too few of them. The airplane scene was brilliant for a special effects scene, but isn't Superman saving an airplane a bit old now? Superman raising an island and tossing it into space... not exactly exciting.
This leads me to another problem... Lex Luthor. I grew up watching Gene Hackman in the role, and enjoyed it back then. When I got older, I liked his portrayal less and less (though still respected it, for nostalgia's sake.) After a friend told me how serious Lex is taken in the comics, I thought that was how he should be portrayed if a Superman remake or sequel were to happen. Around this time, “Smallville” appeared on TV, and I thought Lex was portrayed properly in that show. What Kevin Spacey did with the role is closer to the “Smallville” Luthor than the Hackman Luthor, but in the end... did we need to see Superman take on Lex Luthor again?
The second viewing also made me realize something... “Superman Returns” is half sequel/half remake. This isn't always a bad idea for a franchise, just look at “Evil Dead II”. But in this case, I may have to blame Singer for his decisions in how the film turned out. People wanted to see Superman treated with respect in a film, and to live up to Richard Donner's previous efforts.
In the original, Lex Luthor's scheme involves real estate. Superman faces Lex Luthor, and is defeated by Lex's kryptonite, then tossed into water. Superman takes Lois Lane for a flight. In Superman Returns, we see basically all of these same things, but with different actors in the roles, and slightly changed situations. Instead of a pool, Superman is dropped into the ocean. Instead of Lex trying to sink California, he raises his own island (which looked like it would sell no real estate, by the way.)
I really think Singer IS the right guy to direct Superman films, I just think he should have been a bit more creative with the final product. He may have wanted to please those who fondly remember the original films, but his devotion to fulfilling their wishes kept the film from having a more separate identity from the previous installments. Singer's intention to use nostalgia of the older films in the new one isn't a bad idea, but I believe he overdid it, and it suffers because of it.
Yet another thing that annoyed me... the kid. Usually, a kid is introduced into a franchise late in the game, when ideas are running low. Why introduce him in the first film? Yeah, this is supposedly a sequel, but for many, it will be the first Superman movie they are exposed to. If a sequel happens, how will the story deal with this kid? It can't be ignored, but it could handicap the franchise before it even gets to move forward.
Brandon Routh.... Not the greatest actor. Sure he can do a Christopher Reeve impersonation pretty well, but I expected more out of Singer's choice. Routh had less dialogue than the rest of the actors, yet his character is supposed to be the center of attention. I'd hate to say it, but Tom Welling may have been able to do the role just a tad bit better (but not by much.)
Kate Bosworth.... Just wrong for the role. I don't want to sound like I'm nitpicking, but she just looks wrong without blonde hair. As for her acting, she isn't bad in general, but she just didn't fit in this movie at all. I don't know who could have played the part better, but I'm sure there are dozens of actresses that could have done a better job easily. Hell, even Parker Posey would have been a better Lois Lane, but she got the wrong role in this film. Also, Kate Bosworth is pretty young for the part, and it shows. If this is to be seriously taken as a sequel to “Superman” I and II, Lois should look at least like she has been out of college for a while, and not like she just recently signed up for it.
It disappoints me that I have these opinions... I was expecting “Superman Returns” to be the best film of the year. Singer is a great director, so I had no doubts of this film being good, based on his previous films (not just “X-Men” and “X-2” either.) I was upset that he abandoned “X-Men 3” for Superman, but thought if anyone could do a great Superman film, it would be him.
To be fair, the movie isn't completely bad. It's just not the GREAT film that I (and I'm sure many others) were expecting. Maybe only a few directors could have done a better or equal job to what Singer did here, so I know the film could have been worse.
In the end, “Superman Returns” is pretty to look at, but quick to disappoint. Its way too long, and has more in common with Peter Jackson's “King Kong” and Ang Lee's “Hulk” (ironically, I enjoyed both of these movies upon first viewing,) than with the “Spider-Man” films, “Batman Begins”, or Singer's own “X-Men” films. I just hope if a sequel happens, Singer will have enough faith in himself to make the franchise his own, and not try to rehash the older films too much. (Just keeping the theme music is enough, come on!) Now that I've vented my frustrations... I feel better. Thanks for giving me a place to get it off my chest

 

[Cinemaman]

MY FINAL REVIEW OF SR!!!

Today I finally saw SR. Honestly I was disappointed with box ofice numbers (but now I am fine with this) and I wasn't so excited before the movie.
I can say that only those movie, which can change your mind and turn your opinion into positive side can be GREAT MOVIE. SO SR is one of them

The movie looks amazing and epic. Music was incredible and I aslo loved vissual style.

Vissual effects and CGI looked excellent. The same I can say about action, which was awesome.

Script had some logical aspects. I liked luthor's plan, which had also logic. Luthor can show his power only, if he creates the new land with all technology. Love story was very intersting, because there was something fresh and new like the kid.
I liked the kid stuff and it worked well in the movie.

Actors were great, just perfect. Routh made a new Superman, who was based on Reeve's version. He looks just like Superman and in some scenes you really belive that he is Superman. I felt something from Jessus in his character, and that was what I wanted to see. His speach at the end of movie was very amazing. Bosworth can act and I am glad that she isn't just next Katie Holmes or Kirsten Dunst. Spacey? Damn, he is my favorite actor and of course he was better than I could imagine. He made realistic Lex Luthor, who is genious and mad man in one character. I was very impressed.

Some ppl can say that SInger made the movie, which almost has no connection with comics. They are wrong. He didn't want to make just comic book on-screen, which would be very boring movie. He wanted to show something really new. He showed how people can change on your eyes and how you can change on their opinions. He showed how superhero can gone and come back.

I loved every second of this movie and after the end I wanted more and more to see what will be next.

I dont have my favorite scene, but I have one of my favorite superhero movies and I thank god that SInger made it how it should be.

My rate is 9.5 out of 10.

SR is 2nd my favorite comic book movie after BB

I hope sequels will be even better than it

 

[Im Ron Burgundy]

Good evening. I'm Ron Burgundy!

I enjoyed Superman Returns. I also enjoy a glass of scotch in the morning with my little gentleman Baxter. Baxter also agrees Superman was a ripping yarn, however in my opinion I think this film could have been better. Bryan Singer has never directed a character as light-hearted as Superman before, and I think this film shows that fact. It wasn't very fun. It was very serious and it didn't leave you with a smile on it's face all the way through. In my opinion a Superman film should fit the tone of Back To The future. Back To The Future is an example of cinematic perfection, a film the whole family can enjoy and follow. This film most likely left kids antsy for the next action scene. It probably even made them cry, with the stabbing scene.

Singer has the right idea on how to tell a Superman story. He seems to know his stuff. Hopefully the next installment will be a lot more fun.

I rated this film 7/10.
Stay Classy.

 

[raybia]

Good evening. I'm Ron Burgundy!

I enjoyed Superman Returns. I also enjoy a glass of scotch in the morning with my little gentleman Baxter. Baxter also agrees Superman was a ripping yarn, however in my opinion I think this film could have been better. Bryan Singer has never directed a character as light-hearted as Superman before, and I think this film shows that fact. It wasn't very fun. It was very serious and it didn't leave you with a smile on it's face all the way through. In my opinion a Superman film should fit the tone of Back To The future. Back To The Future is an example of cinematic perfection, a film the whole family can enjoy and follow. This film most likely left kids antsy for the next action scene. It probably even made them cry, with the stabbing scene.

Singer has the right idea on how to tell a Superman story. He seems to know his stuff. Hopefully the next installment will be a lot more fun.

I rated this film 7/10.
Stay Classy.

Good post but I have to disagree with the Back to the Future Analogy. A better one would have been Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Welcome to the Hype!

 

[C. Lee]

Good evening. I'm Ron Burgundy!

I appreciate the fact that you are trying to act nice (PM me if you don't understand)....but may I remind you that posters who use a movie character or actor's name and tries to post as them in all of thier posts....become boring rather quickly. My suggestion...stop the schtick, just make good posts.

 

[Im Ron Burgundy]

I appreciate the fact that you are trying to act nice (PM me if you don't understand)....but may I remind you that posters who use a movie character or actor's name and tries to post as them in all of thier posts....become boring rather quickly. My suggestion...stop the schtick, just make good posts.

But ALL my posts are immaculate!

Seriously though, the moment I need to be serious, I will be serious.

 

[Hunter Rider]

MY FINAL REVIEW OF SR!!!

Today I finally saw SR. Honestly I was disappointed with box ofice numbers (but now I am fine with this) and I wasn't so excited before the movie.
I can say that only those movie, which can change your mind and turn your opinion into positive side can be GREAT MOVIE. SO SR is one of them

The movie looks amazing and epic. Music was incredible and I aslo loved vissual style.

Vissual effects and CGI looked excellent. The same I can say about action, which was awesome.

Script had some logical aspects. I liked luthor's plan, which had also logic. Luthor can show his power only, if he creates the new land with all technology. Love story was very intersting, because there was something fresh and new like the kid.
I liked the kid stuff and it worked well in the movie.

Actors were great, just perfect. Routh made a new Superman, who was based on Reeve's version. He looks just like Superman and in some scenes you really belive that he is Superman. I felt something from Jessus in his character, and that was what I wanted to see. His speach at the end of movie was very amazing. Bosworth can act and I am glad that she isn't just next Katie Holmes or Kirsten Dunst. Spacey? Damn, he is my favorite actor and of course he was better than I could imagine. He made realistic Lex Luthor, who is genious and mad man in one character. I was very impressed.

Some ppl can say that SInger made the movie, which almost has no connection with comics. They are wrong. He didn't want to make just comic book on-screen, which would be very boring movie. He wanted to show something really new. He showed how people can change on your eyes and how you can change on their opinions. He showed how superhero can gone and come back.

I loved every second of this movie and after the end I wanted more and more to see what will be next.

I dont have my favorite scene, but I have one of my favorite superhero movies and I thank god that SInger made it how it should be.

My rate is 9.5 out of 10.

SR is 2nd my favorite comic book movie after BB

I hope sequels will be even better than it

I'm glad you enjoyed it even though i disagree with some of your points

 

[Cinemaman]

I'm glad you enjoyed it even though i disagree with some of your points

Thanx.

This is the difference between opinion of every poster here

 

[Hunter Rider]

Thanx.

This is the difference between opinion of every poster here

Indeed my friend

 

[Octoberist]

MY FINAL REVIEW OF SR!!!

Today I finally saw SR. Honestly I was disappointed with box ofice numbers (but now I am fine with this) and I wasn't so excited before the movie.
I can say that only those movie, which can change your mind and turn your opinion into positive side can be GREAT MOVIE. SO SR is one of them

The movie looks amazing and epic. Music was incredible and I aslo loved vissual style.

Vissual effects and CGI looked excellent. The same I can say about action, which was awesome.

Script had some logical aspects. I liked luthor's plan, which had also logic. Luthor can show his power only, if he creates the new land with all technology. Love story was very intersting, because there was something fresh and new like the kid.
I liked the kid stuff and it worked well in the movie.

Actors were great, just perfect. Routh made a new Superman, who was based on Reeve's version. He looks just like Superman and in some scenes you really belive that he is Superman. I felt something from Jessus in his character, and that was what I wanted to see. His speach at the end of movie was very amazing. Bosworth can act and I am glad that she isn't just next Katie Holmes or Kirsten Dunst. Spacey? Damn, he is my favorite actor and of course he was better than I could imagine. He made realistic Lex Luthor, who is genious and mad man in one character. I was very impressed.

Some ppl can say that SInger made the movie, which almost has no connection with comics. They are wrong. He didn't want to make just comic book on-screen, which would be very boring movie. He wanted to show something really new. He showed how people can change on your eyes and how you can change on their opinions. He showed how superhero can gone and come back.

I loved every second of this movie and after the end I wanted more and more to see what will be next.

I dont have my favorite scene, but I have one of my favorite superhero movies and I thank god that SInger made it how it should be.

My rate is 9.5 out of 10.

SR is 2nd my favorite comic book movie after BB

I hope sequels will be even better than it

I'm glad that you like it. I wouldn't say that Spacey's Lex is 'realistic', however.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

I appreciate the fact that you are trying to act nice (PM me if you don't understand)....but may I remind you that posters who use a movie character or actor's name and tries to post as them in all of thier posts....become boring rather quickly. My suggestion...stop the schtick, just make good posts.

Facist much? I mean yeah some gimmick alias posters are annoying but you dont have to exactly tell him off, I mean that's giving him attention.

 

[C. Lee]

Facist much?

Twice a week....with the occasional extra weekend thrown in for fun.

I mean yeah some gimmick alias posters are annoying but you dont have to exactly tell him off, I mean that's giving him attention.

But I know who it is....and they should be happy that they weren't just immediately banned instead of warned......we Facist's are wild and crazy guys.

 

[Showtime]

But I know who it is....and they should be happy that they weren't just immediately banned instead of warned.......

There are many of those floating around the boards I presume.

 

[WormyT]

Well since Singer and Jackson both put out stinkers as their last films, perhaps they should join forces and combine films making a whole new movie!! They both seem creatively bankrupt and unable to do anything original anymore, so following their example here is my (not so) original idea.......................

Hahaha!

Oh C'mon though. Kong had some spectacular effects and sets. It was definitely too long but I would put it a star or 2 above Superman anyday. But thats just my opinon.
Monkeys Rock.

 

[The Game]

Good evening. I'm Ron Burgundy!

I enjoyed Superman Returns. I also enjoy a glass of scotch in the morning with my little gentleman Baxter. Baxter also agrees Superman was a ripping yarn, however in my opinion I think this film could have been better. Bryan Singer has never directed a character as light-hearted as Superman before, and I think this film shows that fact. It wasn't very fun. It was very serious and it didn't leave you with a smile on it's face all the way through. In my opinion a Superman film should fit the tone of Back To The future. Back To The Future is an example of cinematic perfection, a film the whole family can enjoy and follow. This film most likely left kids antsy for the next action scene. It probably even made them cry, with the stabbing scene.

Singer has the right idea on how to tell a Superman story. He seems to know his stuff. Hopefully the next installment will be a lot more fun.

I rated this film 7/10.
Stay Classy.

LOL, I like this kid "Stay Classy" thats my new catchphrase.

 

[Showtime]

LOL, I like this kid "Stay Classy" thats my new catchphrase.

Don't encourage him.

 

[The Game]

Don't encourage him.

aww he's not that bad................is he?

 

[CapBeerCino]

I finally saw SR and I loved it- Can't get the last act out of my head for over two days...

SR was really solid, great visuals great dialogue. I really enjoyed it. Might go a second time if I get the chance.

9.5 (-0.5 cause the ending was somewhat missed)

 

[Im Ron Burgundy]

I WOULD LIKE TO RETRACT MY PREVIOUS REVIEW.

So I saw the movie again last night. What was I thinking? This film isn't too dark or depressing at all! by the end of the movie you are left smiling, and that's all that matters.

seeing it again was a much more enjoyable experience than the first viewing. I now rate it a 9!

9/10
Stay Classy!

 

[Galactical]

aww he's not that bad................is he?

Some poster that just keeps getting banned and returns to get banned again. That's my guess.

 

[Mentok]

I think it was a beautifully made film,it's problem was the ediitng,someone needed to curb PJ's fanboyism and tighten it up by 40 minutes

It just didnt work at all for me.

I wanted to like it too, but was just very bored with the whole thing.

Anyway, back onto topic.

 

[Mentok]

MY FINAL REVIEW OF SR!!!

Today I finally saw SR. Honestly I was disappointed with box ofice numbers (but now I am fine with this) and I wasn't so excited before the movie.
I can say that only those movie, which can change your mind and turn your opinion into positive side can be GREAT MOVIE. SO SR is one of them

The movie looks amazing and epic. Music was incredible and I aslo loved vissual style.

Vissual effects and CGI looked excellent. The same I can say about action, which was awesome.

Script had some logical aspects. I liked luthor's plan, which had also logic. Luthor can show his power only, if he creates the new land with all technology. Love story was very intersting, because there was something fresh and new like the kid.
I liked the kid stuff and it worked well in the movie.

Actors were great, just perfect. Routh made a new Superman, who was based on Reeve's version. He looks just like Superman and in some scenes you really belive that he is Superman. I felt something from Jessus in his character, and that was what I wanted to see. His speach at the end of movie was very amazing. Bosworth can act and I am glad that she isn't just next Katie Holmes or Kirsten Dunst. Spacey? Damn, he is my favorite actor and of course he was better than I could imagine. He made realistic Lex Luthor, who is genious and mad man in one character. I was very impressed.

Some ppl can say that SInger made the movie, which almost has no connection with comics. They are wrong. He didn't want to make just comic book on-screen, which would be very boring movie. He wanted to show something really new. He showed how people can change on your eyes and how you can change on their opinions. He showed how superhero can gone and come back.

I loved every second of this movie and after the end I wanted more and more to see what will be next.

I dont have my favorite scene, but I have one of my favorite superhero movies and I thank god that SInger made it how it should be.

My rate is 9.5 out of 10.

SR is 2nd my favorite comic book movie after BB

I hope sequels will be even better than it

Im glad you liked it CINEMAMAN

 

[The Kid]

I felt the same, Mentok.

Back on topic? The movie was ok. Jason elevated its quality overall for me. He's the best character because he's an amazing piano-thrower, and well performed by first-timer tristan lake leabu. Long live Jason.

 

[Yepper]

Rarely post EVER, but wanted to add my two cents. Little late on this review but wanted to wait until I saw SR for the second time.

First, I thought this was the best Superman movie ever...Flame on i guess. After rewatching STMI and II, SR surpasses them by miles.

BRouth. This guy did an amazing job in the roles he played. Reeve is Superman, but BR is Clark Kent. Watch the scene when Jimmy explains LuthOR's "escape" from jail to him and see BR shine. BR would have probably owned if Superman had more screentime, but again Reeve still = \S/ to me. BR's not there yet. His speech to his son was poignant, emotional, and really well done by Routh.

Spacey. I was worried he'd be too camp, but Spacey nailed it. Just watching him kick Routh's arse was awesome. Even though I'd rather see him as an allpowerful evil businessman, I foresee it in future movies. Plus he's bald. Spacey > Hackman.

Lois. Like Bosworth way more than Kidder. Visually and acting wise. Kidder was way too annoying and fugly for my taste. Hate that the rasp in her voice. Sorry Kidder lovers.

Score, and visuals. The opening was amazing, plane scene was amazing, LuthOR/thugs vs. Superman was amazing, Superman lifting rock was amazing. Superman repowering up was amazing and gorgeous to look at.

Story. This is where SR surpasses STM and SII. Even though I agree with most posters that SR is basically a copycat of STM storywise, the love story, and climax really surpassed STM. In STM I really don't see why Superman likes Lois. She's so annoying and when she died I felt nothing, sorry. In SR, Superman was dying, this I cared about. Watching \S/ being beat was terrible and I felt the pain. His screams were a nice touch to the scene. Never ever heard Superman scream from physical pain before. Not that I can remember. SII wasn't really good to me. I wanna see Donner's cut. Donner movies were way too kid's movie to me.

I hated when \S/ saved the cops, but then just stared at the crook after being shot. Singer should have showed \S/ whoopin this guy's ass or capturing him the copter blades that I've heard about. Stare at him and cut to another scene, booooooo. Singer does have Kryptonite all wrong, but maybe that's the flaw of Superman in the original comics. Just holding a little bit of kryponite a few feet from Superman can bring him to his knees and kill him. Singer is giving him a fighting chance, I guess. Or else anyone in the world can kill Superman. I like that it slowly effects him and then boom full effect.

Why was Martha not in the hospital????? Cuz she doesn't want people to know his true identity!!!!!!! Heard people complaining about it and wanted get it off my head. Complaints about no punching Superman, that's just silly. Like anyone would have rated this movie differently if \S/ threw a punch cmon now. Why doesn't Lois know CK = \S/??? Well, that has to do with the mythology and story of \S/. I guy puts on glasses and becomes someone completely different, believe it or not, that's the story of \S/ for decades now, deal with it.

Overall, give SR 9 out a 10. I rate differently for superhero movie than other movie genres, but this was the best Superman movie. Singer made a perfect reintroduction type movie. I really want Singer to complete his story. WB better give this a proper sequel, don't wanna wait for a restart in 20 yrs or something. Sorry for the length, I could still go one but nah. Well, thanks for reading up to this point.
BTW I really wanted to see the scene where Supes has on Clark's glasses. DVD hopefully.