Superman Returns Official Rate and Review Superman Returns thread!!!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well anyway, according to Boxofficemojo.com, SR has made just under $378 million world wide.

 

[Bishop2]

Listen man, the bottom line is that SR didn't resonate with the general public because of the expecations of a supervillian and action involving said supervillian.

That's still an opinion.

Frankly, most everything in this thread is an opinion. There is no "bottom line."

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^True, if only more people could realise that.

 

[Bishop2]

erased.

 

[HerosOnFilm]

Listen man, the bottom line is that SR didn't resonate with the general public because of the expecations of a supervillian and action involving said supervillian. It doesn't matter if you liked it or I liked it, it didn't reach the moviegoers like it should have.

I agree. If I wanted to see a movie about Superman saving Lois Lane and a snake-oil salesmanesque Luthor whose goal is a real estate scheme, I'd watch STM again. Sad to say, but SR was horrible.

 

[sf2]

Listen man, the bottom line is that SR didn't resonate with the general public because of the expecations of a supervillian and action involving said supervillian. It doesn't matter if you liked it or I liked it, it didn't reach the moviegoers like it should have.

wise man said.

 

[C. Lee]

That's still an opinion.

Frankly, most everything in this thread is an opinion. There is no "bottom line."

Here's the bottom line:
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[Showtime]

That's still an opinion.

Frankly, most everything in this thread is an opinion. There is no "bottom line."

Actually it's not only an opinion, it is mixed with fact. It is fact that the film didn't resonate with the general public, all you have to do is check the box office. The opinion in my statement involves WHY it didn't resonate, I think the moviegoers wanted more action and a supervillian. This is coming from somebody who enjoyed the movie, so you can't just call me a "hater". Try something more high society.

There is a "bottom line", WB's bottom line, and it's in the red right now.

 

[The Game]

Actually it's not only an opinion, it is mixed with fact. It is fact that the film didn't resonate with the general public, all you have to do is check the box office. The opinion in my statement involves WHY it didn't resonate, I think the moviegoers wanted more action and a supervillian. This is coming from somebody who enjoyed the movie, so you can't just call me a "hater". Try something more high society.

There is a "bottom line", WB's bottom line, and it's in the red right now.

Powerful posting

 

[HerosOnFilm]

Singer rehashed STM almost scene for scene, except for a few new things, like Supes' kid. Question is....why? Was he pressured by WB to churn out a movie that would give us that heartwarming Christopher Reeve feel?

This movie had not one iota of ORGINALITY. A supervillian would have helped out amazingly, or, if he was just going to have Luthor, why couldn't he have made him a John Byrne tycoon instead of a slightly more evil Gene Hackman?

STM: SR:
Underground subway lair. Boat lair.
Campy Luthor. Luthor is a wee more "evil."
Saves lois from helicopter. Saves Lois from plane.
Luthor steals Kryptonite. Luthor steals Kryptonite.
Luthor has female that does him in. Same.
Supes arrives in Smallville outtathe sky. Same.

The list goes on and on. This was STM.......but not as good. Just better effects, and even they weren't anything spectacular this side of the Matrix or Harry Potter.

All in all, quite a let-down.

 

[buggs0268]

SR had the World Cup to go up against in most countries, add to that the fact that it came out at a time when kids were still in school.

And anyway that wasnt my point, my point was, just because a movie makes money, doesnt mean that the general audience liked the actual movie once they saw it.

When kids were still in school? Uh, it was summer when it was released. Just like all of those other summer released movies that were released...oh I don't know...IN THE SUMMER WHEN KIDS ARE OUT FOR 3 MONTHS ON SOMETHING CALLED SUMMER BREAK. God, first the July 4th weekend was a bad weekend to release the movie on as it is a holliday. Not taking into account that it is the second most desired date to release a film in the summer and many movies that were released on that day made dank bank and became the biggest money maker of that year. Not to mention the bulk of their take being made ON THAT WEEKEND! But oh no, it is bad for SR. Now it is that they released it during the summer. How dare they release a summer blockbuster during the summer months? Why I never! It's an outrage! And outrage I tell ya! The nerve. The unmitigated gaul of Warner Brothers releasing a summer movie during the summer months! And on the 4th of July holiday weekend no less! It's a travesty! Someone over there at the WB needs his ass handed to them on a plate for this clusterf**k of releasing a summer movie in the middle of summer!

Why wasn't MIB, MIB 2, Indepenance day, Armegeddon, Spiderman 2, Forest Gump, War of the Worlds,The Firm, A League of Their Own, Terminator 2 effected by this supposed 4th of July bad release date, or the world cup? Most of the movies I listed above went on to either become or get close to being the most money maker of that year.

 

[buggs0268]

Singer rehashed STM almost scene for scene, except for a few new things, like Supes' kid. Question is....why? Was he pressured by WB to churn out a movie that would give us that heartwarming Christopher Reeve feel?

This movie had not one iota of ORGINALITY. A supervillian would have helped out amazingly, or, if he was just going to have Luthor, why couldn't he have made him a John Byrne tycoon instead of a slightly more evil Gene Hackman?

STM: SR:
Underground subway lair. Boat lair.
Campy Luthor. Luthor is a wee more "evil."
Saves lois from helicopter. Saves Lois from plane.
Luthor steals Kryptonite. Luthor steals Kryptonite.
Luthor has female that does him in. Same.
Supes arrives in Smallville outtathe sky. Same.

The list goes on and on. This was STM.......but not as good. Just better effects, and even they weren't anything spectacular this side of the Matrix or Harry Potter.

All in all, quite a let-down.

You forgot that both kryptonite rocks had to be from Addis Ababa.

 

[nogster]

Singer rehashed STM almost scene for scene, except for a few new things, like Supes' kid. Question is....why? Was he pressured by WB to churn out a movie that would give us that heartwarming Christopher Reeve feel?

This movie had not one iota of ORGINALITY. A supervillian would have helped out amazingly, or, if he was just going to have Luthor, why couldn't he have made him a John Byrne tycoon instead of a slightly more evil Gene Hackman?

STM: SR:
Underground subway lair. Boat lair.
Campy Luthor. Luthor is a wee more "evil."
Saves lois from helicopter. Saves Lois from plane.
Luthor steals Kryptonite. Luthor steals Kryptonite.
Luthor has female that does him in. Same.
Supes arrives in Smallville outtathe sky. Same.

The list goes on and on. This was STM.......but not as good. Just better effects, and even they weren't anything spectacular this side of the Matrix or Harry Potter.

All in all, quite a let-down.

the list of comparisons go on.

heaps of dialogue used from STM.
lexs land scheme dialogue is eplained the same.
his air flight is safest way to travel dialogue after saving lois, then she faints. same.
the token supes and lois romantic flight scene.
lexs luring superman to his kryptonite trap then throwing him over the edge to drown to death. same.

there would be more.
its no secret that SR was a re-imagining of the original trying to be a sequel.
it didnt work for me.

 

[LadyVader]

Saw it a 5th time on sunday and a I still love it. I shall own that DVD. Oh... yes indeed.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Actually it's not only an opinion, it is mixed with fact. It is fact that the film didn't resonate with the general public, all you have to do is check the box office.

I checked right now, and Superman Returns made more money worldwide than Batman Begins and the Fantastic Four. If Superman didn't resonate, then neither those movies did.

 

[Showtime]

I checked right now, and Superman Returns made more money worldwide than Batman Begins and the Fantastic Four. If Superman didn't resonate, then neither those movies did.

You're forgetting that this is Superman and that the budget was much bigger than either of those two movies. Superman should not be making less than 200 million domestic and less than 200million worldwide at this point. I liked the movie, but against the box office this movie is not yet profitable. Facts are facts.

You can't compare Superman with Fantastic Four or even Batman for that matter. Superman is supposed to be WB's flagship.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

You're forgetting that this is Superman and that the budget was much bigger than either of those two movies. Superman should not be making less than 200 million domestic and less than 200million worldwide at this point. I liked the movie, but against the box office this movie is not yet profitable. Facts are facts.

Facts are facts: Superman Returns was already profitable before hitting screens, like all the blockbusters, thanks to TV rights sales worldwide.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

When kids were still in school? Uh, it was summer when it was released. Just like all of those other summer released movies that were released...oh I don't know...IN THE SUMMER WHEN KIDS ARE OUT FOR 3 MONTHS ON SOMETHING CALLED SUMMER BREAK. God, first the July 4th weekend was a bad weekend to release the movie on as it is a holliday. Not taking into account that it is the second most desired date to release a film in the summer and many movies that were released on that day made dank bank and became the biggest money maker of that year. Not to mention the bulk of their take being made ON THAT WEEKEND! But oh no, it is bad for SR. Now it is that they released it during the summer. How dare they release a summer blockbuster during the summer months? Why I never! It's an outrage! And outrage I tell ya! The nerve. The unmitigated gaul of Warner Brothers releasing a summer movie during the summer months! And on the 4th of July holiday weekend no less! It's a travesty! Someone over there at the WB needs his ass handed to them on a plate for this clusterf**k of releasing a summer movie in the middle of summer!

Why wasn't MIB, MIB 2, Indepenance day, Armegeddon, Spiderman 2, Forest Gump, War of the Worlds,The Firm, A League of Their Own, Terminator 2 effected by this supposed 4th of July bad release date, or the world cup? Most of the movies I listed above went on to either become or get close to being the most money maker of that year.

Here in the U.K kids dont break-up for summer until the end of July, then most of them go on holiday

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Saw it a 5th time on sunday and a I still love it. I shall own that DVD. Oh... yes indeed.

I will be buying it also, and any special editions they bring out down the line, i love this movie.

 

[Showtime]

Facts are facts: Superman Returns was already profitable before hitting screens, like all the blockbusters, thanks to TV rights sales worldwide.

Isn't it also a fact that the President of WB himself said Superman should have made at least 100 million more? Both Batman Begins and Fantastic Four turned a profit against the domestic box office. That's what studios use as a guage.

You think that WB expected to be defending Superman at this point, which has made 197 some-odd million? Do you think they expected to be pulling in less money domestically than X-Men 3?

You shouldn't have to compare Superman with Fantastic Four, Batman Begins, or even X-Men. Superman should be duking it out with Spiderman, Marvels flagship hero.

As I said, I liked the movie, I saw it twice and it was pure enjoyment. It didn't translate into a box office success, and you can't really argue that. Was it a failure? By no means, but it wasn't what WB thought it would be and they are scratching their heads as to why.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Isn't it also a fact that the President of WB himself said Superman should have made at least 100 million more? Both Batman Begins and Fantastic Four turned a profit against the domestic box office. That's what studios use as a guage.

You think that WB expected to be defending Superman at this point, which has made 197 some-odd million? Do you think they expected to be pulling in less money domestically than X-Men 3?

You shouldn't have to compare Superman with Fantastic Four, Batman Begins, or even X-Men. Superman should be duking it out with Spiderman, Marvels flagship hero.

As I said, I liked the movie, I saw it twice and it was pure enjoyment. It didn't translate into a box office success, and you can't really argue that. Was it a failure? By no means, but it wasn't what WB thought it would be and they are scratching their heads as to why.

They are not the only one's, I though SR was one of only 3 movies this year that was genuinly quality, along with POTC 2 and V For Vendetta (although Slither looks good and i havent seen it).

 

[Showtime]

They are not the only one's, I though SR was one of only 3 movies this year that was genuinly quality, along with POTC 2 and V For Vendetta (although Slither looks good and i havent seen it).

I actually haven't seen POTC2 yet, but I think that Superman Returns was a better quality film then Vendetta. Although I love the character of V.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^While i loved V4V, SR was the better movie IMO, and POTC 2 is good, but again for me SR was better.

 

[LadyVader]

Haven't seen POTC2 and don't have the slightest intention to either. I can't even bring myself to download a bootleg. I think I'll just wait till I see it on HBO.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I liked it, but wasnt as good as the 1st one IMO. But many people who disliked the 1st POTC love the 2nd one. But POTC 2 isnt as good a movie as SR, but it is fun!