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Ryudoz said:
I saw the movie awhile ago and personally I enjoyed it. This was THE movie I wanted to see this year because Superman is my favorite comic book hero and that I had wanted a new movie to come out for some time. Getting all the bias out of the way, there were things I didn't particularly care for in the movie: Lex's plot being too similar to the first movie, the kryptonite in New Krypton when Superman was flying it out into space, and the fact that the Kryptonite didn't kill Superman when he was stabbed with it. But I also had some things I loved: The plane rescue, the part where Lex's cronies beat the crap out of Superman (one of the most powerful scenes IMO in the whole movie), and Superman reciting the same speech to the kid at the end (again with the goosebumps). But I would say that the biggest impact the movie had on me was that I stuck to a central theme (for the most part).

Life. Living. Being Born again. However you want to put it.

Think about it. Superman returns to Earth after leaving for some time. When he comes back, he is born again into the minds of the people. He becomes the hero he used to be in the minds of the citizens of Metropolis. Also, Lex's own orchestrated fortunes allow him to be born again in a sense that he now has the knowledge and funding to once again gain the precious land he desired, at the cost of destroying the US as we know it. The kid himself signifies life in that he's the part of Superman that was left behind with Lois, and whom Superman himself finds out who the boy really is. The creation of life between Lois and himself.

But all that got me thinking. Why so cliche' at times with the story? Why a direction that served as a mirror (in most aspects) to the very first Superman movie? I began to think that for most people, it would be hard to write a restart (not reboot) story without pulling alot of familiar elements and injecting some controversial ideas to form it into a centralized theme. But, I feel that it sets up well for a sequel in that they can tackle a theme on the total opposite of the spectrum.

Death.

I remember reading the Death of Superman arc in comics, and found them to be some of my favorite of the entire series. Introducing a villain in the next movie, who not unlike Doomsday, would force Superman to resort to a force he hasn't had to previously in the current medium (movies) I think would be a brilliant way to take the franchise. In the comics when Doomsday appeared he tore up the JLA like it was nothing. Superman himself even told Lois at one point that to defeat Doomsday he had to be every bit as brutal and relentless as he. It could show a side of Superman that we haven't seen in the movies (aside from the Bad Superman). They could have the result of the comic (Superman and Doomsday killing each other) or even alter it a bit to have supes live or whatever, but I think it could be done and done well. Even with Singer.

And the last thing I thought about was Singer. Sure, the movie has gotten it's fair share of criticism and applause. But I see this movie more like the first movie in the X-Men series, in that it introduces us to his vision of Superman and leaves something to build on. Sure it has it's warts and all, but it's a springboard for more to build on.

I apologize for the long post, but I just thought I would share. Cheers.

A good level-headed post of your thoughts. I personally think that the sequel is guaranteed to be better again than SR. I loved the Superman we got. I only ask for 2 things in the sequel. More character to Lois (spunk, determination and also some sort of friendliness towards Clark), and less emphasis on Jason.
 
Masut said:
A good level-headed post of your thoughts. I personally think that the sequel is guaranteed to be better again than SR. I loved the Superman we got. I only ask for 2 things in the sequel. More character to Lois (spunk, determination and also some sort of friendliness towards Clark), and less emphasis on Jason.

My sentiments exactly!
 
Have any of u guys seen the movie My Super Ex-Girlfriend? I think that movie ownd Superman Retuns. In my opinion they had better effects and a better story. Yea I know it was a comedy but come on, in Superman Returns there is a sceen where he blows a fire from a house and It lookd so fake but there is a sceen in My Super Ex-Girlfriend where there is a burning building and G- Girl spins her body till she absorbs the fire and that lookd real. So where the heck did Singer spend $200 million dollars? There is also a fight in this movie that owns Superman Returns.
 
I haven't gotten around to seeing EX yet...it looked funny, but I haven't seen many movies this summer.
 
I recomend it cause its funny and it has all the elements of a good Superhero movie. I think that this movie is a parody of Superman Retuns. There is even a sceen where the guy askd something and he says that Utah Sucks and where do u think Brandon Routh is from?
 
smsvmos said:
. There is even a sceen where the guy askd something and he says that Utah Sucks and where do u think Brandon Routh is from?
Iowa.:super:
 
NateGray said:
Ummm LMAO no Singer is not even in the same ballpark as these directors no matter how much you want him to be with your DOSV tripe in your sig.

Any of them would have delivered a Superman movie that would have competed with POTC2 and possibly even beat it at the BO while Singers SR fell flat in the face of POTC2.
And no POTC2 was not in any way shape or form the reason SR did not do well I am sooo sick of that sad excuse for a poorly done movie.
It's all a matter of opinion. You have no idea what they would've delivered. Ask the Spidey fans what Cameron was going to do to their boy and tell me you're still in the same frame of mind. NEWSFLASH: NOTHING THIS YEAR HAS COMPETED WITH POTC. Not even X3.
 
I dont really think Cameron was going to ruin Spiderman since most of his ideas were used in Spiderman.
 
smsvmos said:
Have any of u guys seen the movie My Super Ex-Girlfriend? I think that movie ownd Superman Retuns. In my opinion they had better effects and a better story. Yea I know it was a comedy but come on, in Superman Returns there is a sceen where he blows a fire from a house and It lookd so fake but there is a sceen in My Super Ex-Girlfriend where there is a burning building and G- Girl spins her body till she absorbs the fire and that lookd real. So where the heck did Singer spend $200 million dollars? There is also a fight in this movie that owns Superman Returns.

Sounds good. I might give it a watch.
 
Showtime029 said:
I dont really think Cameron was going to ruin Spiderman since most of his ideas were used in Spiderman.

Wow... you're like the only other person on earth who sees that. Heh... Cameron's bashed for his ideas, but a good chunk of them made it into the movies anyway and it seems like peoplle love them.

Irony is great.:spidey:
 
NateGray said:
Ummm LMAO no Singer is not even in the same ballpark as these directors no matter how much you want him to be with your DOSV tripe in your sig.
And who said he was? I was merely mentioning directors who are also as concentrated on their own vision as ANY director should be. But go on. Keep attacking the group instead of the point. It really helps your argument and doesn't make you look ignorant at all. Not even a little.




Okay...maybe a little.
 
Showtime029 said:
I dont really think Cameron was going to ruin Spiderman since most of his ideas were used in Spiderman.
Some of the superficial ideas were eventually used. But the characterization he wanted was not used by Raimi. Remember that Cameron's Peter was going to trash Flash Thompson's car and did it in a fairly out-of-character fashion.
 
Showtime029 said:
I dont really think Cameron was going to ruin Spiderman since most of his ideas were used in Spiderman.
I liked Spiderman 1, really likes spiderman 2. That said, I think A James Cameron Spiderman would have kicked ass over those two movie. Cameron is a great director who can take an action flick and add drama and heart to it. He is a really great screenwriter and director. Just look at his previous work and anyone can see that. Cameron is on the level of Spielberg, but they view things differenty.
 
dpm07 said:
Superman Returns is a horrible film by a man who seriously needs psychiatric help for his overinflated ego and arrogance. Not to mention his inability to connect with reality and realize that Superman is more than just the Donner film, it is the source material from tv shows, comics, other media, etc.

Bryan Singer did a horrible injustice to what should have been a given goldmine, and he turned it into a film of epic boredom.

Perfectly said!!!!:up: :up: :up:
 
I have now seen SR four times and can officially say that i love it, best movie of '06 IMO.
 
AVEITWITHJAMON said:
I have now seen SR four times and can officially say that i love it, best movie of '06 IMO.

But surely you don't love it because you've seen it four times....it's the other way round: You saw it four times because you loved it! :oldrazz:
 
X-Maniac said:
But surely you don't love it because you've seen it four times....it's the other way round: You saw it four times because you loved it! :oldrazz:

HHMMMMM not entirely true, first time i saw SR i thought it was good, but nothing special, but after every time i have seen it since, i have loved it more.:)
 
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Superman Returns has hit $376 Million Worldwide and now Surpassed Batman Begins total. It hasnt made as much profit as begins but more people are going to see it :up:
 
Super_Child said:
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Superman Returns has hit $376 Million Worldwide and now Surpassed Batman Begins total. It hasnt made as much profit as begins but more people are going to see it :up:

Not only that, but the film has been holding strong in the States believe it or not. In only 280 theaters, the film was able to make 1.08 million dollars this weekend. That's an average of over $3,000 a theater.

IMAX is really keeping this thing alive. :)
 
I wish I could have seen it in IMAX. Its probably...The best way to fly :(
 
Freddy_Krueger said:
Not only that, but the film has been holding strong in the States believe it or not. In only 280 theaters, the film was able to make 1.08 million dollars this weekend. That's an average of over $3,000 a theater.

IMAX is really keeping this thing alive. :)
ya, it's amazing. it has come in a bit late though.
 
Super_Child said:
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Superman Returns has hit $376 Million Worldwide and now Surpassed Batman Begins total. It hasnt made as much profit as begins but more people are going to see it :up:

Thats not such a bad return considering, and it has only just opened in some countries with quite big populations.
 
AVEITWITHJAMON said:
Thats not such a bad return considering, and it has only just opened in some countries with quite big populations.

Not bad? It is the 8th highest gross of the year worldwide. People forget this is Superman. $376? Do you know thats less than Spider-Man's domestic alone? Spider-Man 2 made just that amount Domestic alone.

People were saying, oh it will do good in Germany and other places it has not opend. Well it opend VERY poorly in Germany, it is at 13th position in just 3 weeks?. It just opend in Italy also and it was not good either. But the Germany one has to be one of the worst so far, 13th in just 3 weeks? LOL
 
GarudA said:
Not bad? It is the 8th highest gross of the year worldwide. People forget this is Superman. $376? Do you know thats less than Spider-Man's domestic alone? Spider-Man 2 made just that amount Domestic alone.

People were saying, oh it will do good in Germany and other places it has not opend. Well it opend VERY poorly in Germany, it is at 13th position in just 3 weeks?. It just opend in Italy also and it was not good either. But the Germany one has to be one of the worst so far, 13th in just 3 weeks? LOL

Well i think any moviewould have struggled against POTC 2, especially a movie that is essentially meant to be the start of a new franchise.
 
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