Superman Returns Official Rate and Review Superman Returns thread!!!

[skruloos]

What's really amazing is that the potential for epic action in a superman story is practically limitless considering how powerful he and his enemies are.

Eh. I suppose it would be amazing if it interested me in the least.

 

[The Kid]

Superman really can't be topped as far as action goes. He's the benchmark for all superheros.

 

[X-Maniac]

Nope. I don't think so. It's probably why the comic book movies I like are more character oriented and rely less on action.

What crap. What's the point of having a super-powered character unless you show their super powers through the conficts and tensions in a dramatic storyline?

Lifting an island and blowing out gas fires is hardly bringing out the super powers in a way that's full of emotional/interpersonal conflict. We've seen it before. Yawn. Yes, good effects. But I expect those in a 2006 movie costing more than 200 million dollars...

Lex using the crystals to create the island and also a fitting enemy (a comicbook adversary like Brainiac or Metallo) would be better. Then we'd see a superpowered battle, the villain would be defeated and Superman would launch the island (with Lex, the supervillain and henchmen on it) into space - THAT might be interesting.

As it was, there was no 'payback' for Lex and his henchmen. His henchmen were crushed under a slab of rock, Lex is alive and free on a desert island. Superman never got to serve justice on them at all. Very unsatisfying - and bad storytelling.

Very poor storywriting. Production designs (the island etc) and visual moments (Clark reminiscing etc) triumphed over a solid story. For all the attention to detail in the visuals, there was none of the same attention on the storytelling.

 

[skruloos]

What crap. What's the point of having a super-powered character unless you show their super powers through the conficts and tensions in a dramatic storyline?

And I think the story did it fine. It didn't need an abundance of action to show his superheroism. And in any case, his powers aren't what make Superman interesting to me anyhow.

I like when superpowers are used in subtle ways. I like when Daredevil wanted to see Elektra by seeing the rain fall on her face. I liked when Iceman blew on the soda bottle to cool it down. I liked Superman disintegrating debris using his heat vision.

Spider-man versus Doc Ock? All of the action in X3? Boring. Put me to sleep boring.

 

[nogster]

i thought the story was the weakest part of the film.
the action was well done, within the context of the film and the story telling.
but thats it. the story was very weak and illogical and there were flaws all over it.
the love story was like something out of the days of our lives. it was weak. and very dissapointing when piano boy is uncovered.
lex's plan made absolutley no sense at all.
and neither did superman carrying a kryptonite island with kryptonite still inside him when he was totally powerless only 10 mins before hand on this same island WITHOUT kryptonite stabbed in him. wtf.
i dont get how some of u are saying the story is what carried the film. the story ruined the film IMO.

 

[Thunder Emperor]

And I think the story did it fine. It didn't need an abundance of action to show his superheroism. And in any case, his powers aren't what make Superman interesting to me anyhow.

I like when superpowers are used in subtle ways. I like when Daredevil wanted to see Elektra by seeing the rain fall on her face. I liked when Iceman blew on the soda bottle to cool it down. I liked Superman disintegrating debris using his heat vision.

Spider-man versus Doc Ock? All of the action in X3? Boring. Put me to sleep boring.

Subtle action I prefer in tv shows, all the little thing you mentioned, I enjoy seeing in smallville, 4400, and the dead zone. on the big screen, i want to see powers in full exstent used creatively. but in its full extent.

 

[buggs0268]

What crap. What's the point of having a super-powered character unless you show their super powers through the conficts and tensions in a dramatic storyline?

Lifting an island and blowing out gas fires is hardly bringing out the super powers in a way that's full of emotional/interpersonal conflict. We've seen it before. Yawn. Yes, good effects. But I expect those in a 2006 movie costing more than 200 million dollars...

Lex using the crystals to create the island and also a fitting enemy (a comicbook adversary like Brainiac or Metallo) would be better. Then we'd see a superpowered battle, the villain would be defeated and Superman would launch the island (with Lex, the supervillain and henchmen on it) into space - THAT might be interesting.

As it was, there was no 'payback' for Lex and his henchmen. His henchmen were crushed under a slab of rock, Lex is alive and free on a desert island. Superman never got to serve justice on them at all. Very unsatisfying - and bad storytelling.

Very poor storywriting. Production designs (the island etc) and visual moments (Clark reminiscing etc) triumphed over a solid story. For all the attention to detail in the visuals, there was none of the same attention on the storytelling.

Scroo lives in his own world dude. No point in arguing with him. he doesn't want Superman and Lois to be together. He likes the suit with non traditional Superman colors. he only wants to see Supermans powers used subtley in a summer movie about the most powerful superhero of all time. the guy just loves everhthing that makes this movie so wrong. There is no point in arguing with him as you will only get nowhere. He lives in his own world.

 

[Slipping_Halo]

Which people do you speak of....

the ones in Lebonon and Isreal trying not to get hit with missles?
the ones in California trying to keep thier homes from burning in the wildfires?
the ones in the New England area recovering from the severe flooding?
the ones in the gulf area still reeling from hurricane Katrina?
the ones in the Java area still recovering from tsunamies?
the ones in Baghdad getting attacked daily by suicide bombers?
the ones in the Sudan area starving to death from 20 years of drought?


I wonder too....why are they not more outraged about this world shattering development?

Wow, you have some balls, man.

Actually, I meant the geeks who sit on internet message boards whining about fictional characters drawn on glossy paper booklets that spawn endless amounts of ultimately useless, trivial merchandise-especially considering the horrible catastrophies and acts of cruel inhumanity you ever so eloquently described above.

In other words, you and I and everyone else who posts on this board, ya jerk.

What a martyr, you are. Typing witty, quasi-intellectual, I'm-so-up-on-current-events-and-sensitive-to-what's-happening-in-the-world-around-me nonsense. You're on a message board discussing a movie about an alien that wears a red cape and underwear over his pants. Your high horse was checked at the door. Don't condescend to me like you're so above all this. You're here.

 

[buggs0268]

Wow, you have some balls, man.

Actually, I meant the geeks who sit on internet message boards whining about fictional characters drawn on glossy paper booklets that spawn endless amounts of ultimately useless merchandise.

In other words, you and I and everyone else who posts on this board, ya jerk.

Dude. What are you thinking? Welp. Nice knowing you. The guy you just called a jerk is a moderator here. That is all the balls he needs. The one person you don't want to talk that way to is him. Like I said. Nice knowing you. Have fun being banned.

 

[Slipping_Halo]

I was attacked for being a fan, like he isn't. Just because he's who he is doesn't mean he can condescend to other people like that.

 

[buggs0268]

I was attacked for being a fan, like he isn't. Just because he's who he is doesn't mean he can condescend to other people like that.

Okay I am just saying dude you should change how you worded that.

 

[skruloos]

Subtle action I prefer in tv shows, all the little thing you mentioned, I enjoy seeing in smallville, 4400, and the dead zone. on the big screen, i want to see powers in full exstent used creatively. but in its full extent.

Yes. And It's been done in The Matrix movies and Spider-man and each time it has bored me.

 

[Thunder Emperor]

Yes. And It's been done in The Matrix movies and Spider-man and each time it has bored me.

like buggs0268 said you live in your own word, glad you got your superman movie, which i feel is filled with everything wrong and nothing close to the man of still. but GA has spoken and they do not like singer's ****.

 

[skruloos]

like buggs0268 said you live in your own word, glad you got your superman movie, which i feel is filled with everything wrong and nothing close to the man of still. but GA has spoken and they do not like singer's ****.

And the general audience's opinion means what to me exactly?

And you're right. I got a movie that surpassed all my expectations. It's everything I wanted in a Superman film and more. I'm flying pretty high.

 

[buggs0268]

like buggs0268 said you live in your own word, glad you got your superman movie, which i feel is filled with everything wrong and nothing close to the man of still. but GA has spoken and they do not like singer's ****.

He cracks me up. I've just never seen anyone so happy from something failing so bad, except for the guys who liked the Hulk in the Hulk section. And even a lot of them, knowing that they are going to get a rboot and a different director, are happy that a reboot is happening and the movie will be very different. In fact, some of them are now dissing that film and Ang Lee. And that one guy who will defend to the hilt that Batman and Robin was the greatest movie Ever Made. Oh well. Everyone has their own gig. Glad he has his.

 

[skruloos]

He cracks me up. I've just never seen anyone so happy from something failing so bad,

Ah yes. Everyone should roll with popular thought. Maybe it would actually bother me if the film failed me. It did not. I'm sorry it failed you but frankly, your opinion means nothing to me. At the end of the day, I got the movie I wanted and more and you didn't. It's ok. I was bitter about X3 too.

 

[buggs0268]

Well your opinion means nothing to me too so I guess we are even. Glad you like what I think is a boring piece of cr*p. A 200 million dollar movie that looks like it was made for 120 mill. But the GA agrees with me so I guess I am certainly not alone in my opinion about it. I am also glad to see the majority of staunch supporters for Singer and this film now want his ass canned from any sequel.

 

[skruloos]

Well your opinion means nothing to me too so I guess we are even. Glad you like what I think is a boring piece of cr*p. A 200 million dollar movie that looks like it was made for 120 mill. But the GA agrees with me so I guess I am certainly not alone in my opinion about it.

Yeah. And the majority of reviewers and users on Rottentomatoes, Metacritic, and IMDB agree that it was a good movie so I know I'm not alone in my opinion. Hell, a huge number of the GA went out in droves to see X3 and that was crap so it's not like the GA really matters to me.

 

[buggs0268]

Whatever gets you through the day.

 

[skruloos]

Whatever gets you through the day.

Gets me through the day? LOL. I'm happy with the movie. I don't need anything to "get me through the day" like, say, needing my opinion validated by box office numbers.

 

[buggs0268]

Sigh. Oh well, this was a hoot.

 

[The Kid]

Are all the old threads from last year about when I joined stilll around? I'd like to go back and look at the pre-movie hype.

 

[mathhater]

I've seen the movie a bunch by now. And now that the awesomeness of seeing Superman on big screen has worn off, I think I can finally be objective.

Overall, I think it's a good movie. But it does have some serious problems.

For one, there's no solid backstory. Many times you're left with questions as to what exactly the history is between these characters. And given Singer's recent Comic-Con statements...even he doesn't know. They fell back on "vague" way too much.

Lex Luthor. I was ecstatic when Spacey was cast...but Singer had him portraying a version of the character that's been dead for 20 years. No legitimate money or power, comedic, obsessed with land...not a Luthor for this day and age.
....and his plan was just insane, making no sense at all. And his goals, while much grander than in '78, were the same..."I want land."

All in all, way too much borrowing from Donnor.
But that's about all for my major gripes. Everything else worked well I thought. Loved Routh, and even though I'm in the minority here, I though Bosworth played a great Lois. And the kid idea brought an interesting element to the mythos...if nothing else. And as I said before the movie hit...and I stick to this...the suit? NOT that big a deal. Yes it was altered, but it was nothing earth shattering. It didn't detract from the movie or the character at all for me.

But the movie wasn't the event it should have been. In the end, Singer relied on the grandeur of the original Superman movie instead of truly attempting to make his own mark on the legend of Superman.

 

[dark_b]

i thik i can nto sleep anymore. lex has a lot of money,yacht,.....
but what does he do? he wants to destroy everything. he wants krypto land?
he wants to destroy everything and then sell krypto land to everyone? land where nothing will grow.land where no electricity is?

stone age?

 

[Superwoman Prime]

Here is the Superman Returns review that I posted on Amazon.com.

I didn't like this movie, really. I watched it two times in theatres. The second time, I was totally looking for reasons to like this movie, always searching for redeeming qualities that would save the movie. But were there any? No, not really. (aside from the action sequence where Superman saves the airplane. That is about all the real excitement there is.)

The movie was weak; Routh and Bosworth deliver almost un-interesting performances as far as actual acting goes. Most the time they either have blank looks on their faces, or they are babbling bland dialogue. The only 'good' actor was Kevin Spacey, but his acting abilities weren't near strong enough to make up for the lack of talent on Routh and Bosworth's side of the fence.

The suit: why did Bryan Singer change the suit so much? Not only does it subtract from the movie, but it is an EYE-SORE! I found it hard not to keep concentrating on how terrible the suit was... it takes away the viewer's concentration from the almost non-existant and unentertaining storyline. The reds were too dark, and the suit eats up all of Routh's muscles and makes him look like a scrawny whimp!

The storyline is basic: Lex Luthor wants to grow a continent out of crystals he found in the Fortress of Solitude. But not only was Singer not original, but he managed to make a plot that was pretty much already done. No one wants to see another of Lex's real-estate scams.

I hope in the sequel they decide to make some improvements, and actually create a reasonable, enthralling storyline and plot that will keep the audiences at the edge of their seat...

And don't even get me started on the Jason kid...