Official Thor Thread

[kguillou]

I dunno man. I'm a huge believer in "Too much of a good thing is not good for you". Once something good is saturated, it just isnt good anymore. If Thor starts joining teams and participating in crossovers, it makes his title book less special and significant. Look at how marvel has raped wolverine, he's one of the coolest marvel characters out and now he's just plain annoying because he's literally everywhere. Sometimes things work best in small but effective doses.

 

[kguillou]

edit: double post

 

[Miss Webb]

I think I'll pass on reading about this current so called "Thor." What was the point of his character progression just to make him also ran status. I swear, the Asgardians are the weakest, lamest most pathetic excuse for a pantheon of gods in all the marvel universe! I'm not reading this series to learn about humans and how they connect with the gods. DUH, no crap. It was called WORSHIP back in the day. The floating asgard bit was lame to begin with. So now we're going backwards again. Just an overall carelessness and lack of creativity. They hooked Thor fans with gimmicks for the relaunch, with no apparent creativity to enhance the "new order". So guess what? we GO IN REVERSE because it's easy. Add insult to injury by slapping issues out like, what? Every four months? I'll save my money in the meantime. I am so frigging sick of the whole hammer/blake mess it isn't funny. Has ANY marvel god been so strapped with fake excuses and reasons for supposedly interesting 'weaknesses?' What is there to know about Blake that isn't already known? Why not feature the HAMMER instead of Thor? It's easier to draw...maybe then they can get issues out per month. Thor has to be bound to a human, Thor has to be bound to a hammer. Thor's a frog, blah blah blah. Recycled crap warmed over again. Well, I ain't bound to this garbage. This Thor is a joke. Stiff, boring, no charisma and not interesting in the least. A muscle bound cluck that needs his toy to be anything. Outside of the Stark smackdown, he ain't impressed me one bit in this so called 'new direction' that looks like stuff I've seen like1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times before.

I never knew Mjolnir needed so much power just to stay in one piece. Funny, it held together just fine prior. It's a miracle any asgardian could get out of bed if the toy got chipped.

Screw this creative team.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I think there's like half a sentence in that whole rant I actually agree with.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree with a lot of it. The Asgardians are a bunch of *****es and Thor is constantly being weakened, even though he's already treated like the red-headed stepchild of Marvel's supposedly "top-tier" powerhouses. We can look forward to some more ass-whuppings courtesy of the Hulk and the Juggernaut and even the f***ing Wrecking Crew in the next few years, I imagine. And there is a bit too much of an emphasis on humanity at the expense of focusing on the gods. I mentioned that in my review of Thor #602 in the Bought/Thought thread--that whole issue felt lopsided in favor of humanity, robbing what should've been an emotional Thor/Sif reunion of its impact by focusing instead on Blake and the spirit of the random old lady Loki diverted Sif's spirit into.

Still, the story JMS is creating outweighs the flaws in his take on the gods, so at the end of the day, I can honestly say I enjoyed his run.

 

[Spider-Jay420]

I haven't read 602 yet, but didn't JMS say in an article once how he was gonna explore the Nine Worlds and take Thor on grand adventures? What happened to that stuff? And now he's leaving in September? Thanks.

I've been enjoying Thor. Well, as much as you can with a battle every 3 issues and Human perspective in between and all the stuff Miss Webb was talking about. And keeping him secluded from the rest of the MU except when he kicked Iron Man's ass, that was awesome.

I just hope who ever writes him next will do cool things with him. Let him mingle with the Avengers and let him do crazy Nine World, Asgardian stuff too. How hard can it be?

Enough with all the decompression, man. Thor should'a found Sif, teamed up with Spider-Man, and fought the Frost Giants with Beta Ray Bill by now.

 

[SouLeSS]

I'm about done with Thor. I'll stick to the mini's and one shots, where things actually happen, but his main title is so slow that every time I pick it up I ask myself "why?"

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it's fairly telling that my favorite issue since the relaunch was that God-Size Special, where Thor, Balder, and Loki actually went to some of the Asgardian worlds and had a big, splashy adventure. I like JMS' ongoing story, but it's sort of getting crushed under its own weight. It's too slow and plodding at this point.

 

[moraldeficiency]

You people are on crack, this is probably the best thor has ever been. Is it slower than I'd like? Sure, but I still enjoy every freaking issue when they finally come out. All action all the time? Thanks but I've seen Rulk and didn't much care for it. Chances are I'm out when JMS leaves unless the next writer is someone I like.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

"All action all the time" is not even remotely what anyone's said. Just not issue after issue of 90% humans and 10% gods on a bi-monthly basis. Part of the reason Thor's more fun than the exclusively magic-based characters is that he gets into colossal scrapes and hits b****es with his hammer. We've gotten like 3 issues with that over the course of JMS' entire run--Iron Man, the Destroyer, and Bor. All great, but not quite enough when coupled with the never-ending delays.

And now that JMS' run is ending soon, I'm gonna stick with Simonson's run as the best. I thought JMS' run had potential, but it never really took off. Simonson has that adventurous, fun quality that JMS' run replaced with brooding and questions about the nature of humanity.

 

[moraldeficiency]

"All action all the time" is not even remotely what anyone's said. Just not issue after issue of 90% humans and 10% gods on a bi-monthly basis. Part of the reason Thor's more fun than the exclusively magic-based characters is that he gets into colossal scrapes and hits b****es with his hammer. We've gotten like 3 issues with that over the course of JMS' entire run--Iron Man, the Destroyer, and Bor. All great, but not quite enough when coupled with the never-ending delays.

And now that JMS' run is ending soon, I'm gonna stick with Simonson's run as the best. I thought JMS' run had potential, but it never really took off. Simonson has that adventurous, fun quality that JMS' run replaced with brooding and questions about the nature of humanity.

I might agree if this wasn't the best thor I've ever read. Might. I don't mind waiting for a throwdown if you give me something like thor 600.

Can't wait to see how all you guys feel when this book gets dumbed down to the point of just thor being all powerful and completely unrelatable and no one reads it anymore. Guarntee you loeb's name is being seriously considered as I type.

Every time I've tried to really get into thor (and mind you the book does have my favorite comic book character) I couldn't and always ended up leaving. This is the first time I've ever liked thor this much. To each his/her own, but remember these words: You're gonna miss this level of quality very very soon.



I like humans and gods interacting, you rarely get humor in this type of book.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If it's replaced with Loeb, obviously we're going to miss it. That doesn't make JMS' run the standard for quality Thor, though, it just makes it better than a pile of s***. Personally, if Fraction comes aboard and errs more toward his God-Sized Special writing rather than his Secret Invasion: Thor writing, I'll probably end up enjoying his run even more than JMS'. I'd still rate JMS' run a solid third on the Best Thor Ever scale, though, after all of Simonson's run and about half of Jurgens' run.

 

[moraldeficiency]

No it doesn't, and each person has their own opinion, but I will say thor is generally the first book I read when I get comics, and that's never been remotely the case before.

I sort of like Simonson's run, and I get where and why people really dig it, it's just not my pint of guiness.

I hope it's fraction too, probably the only chance I won't drop the book.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd be okay with Fraction, although I'd have my doubts because of the aforementioned SI: Thor (plus, he's gotten pretty comfortable making the Asgardians a**holes in earlier times, which I don't want to see leak into the current versions anymore than it already has). My personal pick would be Michael Avon Oeming. He can get the epic tone perfectly, plus he can write a fun Thor who's not so grim and humorless all the time.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, but I think he's done with Marvel.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oeming? Because of Omega Flight? I thought Kolins was the one who was supremely pissed after that.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I can appreciate why people think not enough is happening in Thor, that some would like more battles and adventures. But I wouldn't call the book plodding or boring. I think the problem is the ridiculous delays, which make it FEEL slow. It wouldn't be so bad running on a monthly schedule.

I like the unconventional pacing of JMS' Thor. I've said this before, but it feels a bit like the superhero equivalent of an HBO drama like The Sopranos or The Wire: slow-boil stories offer bigger long-term rewards, major events happen suddenly (or even off-screen) to throw people off. It doesn't feel like your typical superhero comic.

 

[Anubis]

Oeming? Because of Omega Flight? I thought Kolins was the one who was supremely pissed after that.

Well, I don't recall either of them doing much of anything for Marvel since that whole debacle. Not counting Oeming's work on Powers of course

 

[Vartha]

Right now I can only imagine Oeming on Thor.
Fraction has said he wasn't interested in writing Thor ongoing. Walt isn't leaving DC.
Keep Loeb away from Thor.

 

[SouLeSS]

Don't get me wrong, I like it.

I just think it's probably a better read in trades than it is month to bi-month.

 

[greenrage36]

Well Marvel once again screws up a good book because of an event, JMS explains why he left here: http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=21780

Well, da**it! I'm just getting back into the swing of things here in the world of comics, and boom! one of my favorite titles is changing things up again in their creative team. Granted it may not be toooo bad, as I only started reading after issue # 600, but I really was hoping to catch an 'epic' type issue with the current team. I hope they keep the art folks together, as I really enjoy the visuals in the current book.

Since i"m not as familar with the current pack of writers out there, I have no biases against anybody in particular...I'm of a 'it's currently good..try to maintain that and I'll be happy" kind of mindset..and (as mentioned before), maybe we can start seeing this monthly again too. But MAN...I'm just getting comfortable, and if feels like I'm watching the rug being pulled out from me!

 

[CaptainCanada]

IGN's staff looks at various candidates for creative teams (I don't think it's worth it to name a single artist; unless we're talking about Bagley or Pelletier, a timely series will have multiple artists or regular fill-ins).

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Just read #602. Balder really impressed me with his plan for the future; and it didn't just sound like naive optimism either. wow

 

[TheCorpulent1]

IGN's staff looks at various candidates for creative teams (I don't think it's worth it to name a single artist; unless we're talking about Bagley or Pelletier, a timely series will have multiple artists or regular fill-ins).

I hope Marvel's smart enough to plan for at least a duo of timely artists. Although, it seems Marvel deliberately held back issues of Thor to accommodate the search for JMS' replacement, so maybe Coipel and Djurdjevic really aren't that slow.

Their choices are mostly obvious or terrible, by the way. I'd be interested to see Carey and Braithwaite on Thor, though.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

i have to say
Bill the Mortal the..dude that shagging the hot blondie( hey i cant remember all this stuff you know) is fastly becoming an extreme favorite of mine!That dude is hella cool!