Official UFC Thread - Part 5

[brainchild81]

Lol. I hate ya for that. I'm laughing now & I feel bad about it. Very sad end to Silva's Career

 

[Perfect Cell]

Lots of people are properly giving Weidman credit for checking the kick.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Lots of people are properly giving Weidman credit for checking the kick.

We will see how long that last. He wasn't given much credit for putting off Anderson with the first few punches before knocking him out the first time.

 

[Marvin]

Anderson losing a round(with no blood on his face) is hardly new. The man lives to counter punch, and when faced with a skilled opponent sometimes that takes a second round with less mistakes. I'm not convinced CW is all that great. Look forward to seeing him prove it against that Belfort creature.

As for tate, Rousey is clearly a more powerful athlete and grappler. Dear god I need Carano to cut weight and put an end to all this.
Rousey plays a great heel as long as she keeps winning(and she will against these women) it works for her.

 

[Marvin]

Lots of people are properly giving Weidman credit for checking the kick.

Nothing against him, but plenty of people check kicks, and even better than he did here.
Like last time alot of this comes down to his opponent.

If he had owned his opponent like Hendricks or Cain I'd get it but twice now he's been witnessed his opponent fall to odd circumstance in round two. Like I said above, I look forward to seeing how he does going forward.

 

[brainchild81]

I don't think Gina can beat Ronda. Would be awesome if she did, but I don't see her being allowed to stand long enough to land anything serious. She'd just be another arm added to the collection.

Tate went for a few takedowns that she shouldn't have. Should have slugged as long as Ronda was willing to

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Anderson losing a round(with no blood on his face) is hardly new. The man lives to counter punch, and when faced with a skilled opponent sometimes that takes a second round with less mistakes. I'm not convinced CW is all that great. Look forward to seeing him prove it against that Belfort creature.

As for tate, Rousey is clearly a more powerful athlete and grappler. Dear god I need Carano to cut weight and put an end to all this.
Rousey plays a great heel as long as she keeps winning(and she will against these women) it works for her.

TRTor might get him early. But if he doesn't, Weidman is going to hurt him... bad. Weidman looks a bit unskilled, but his technique is strangely great.What he did to block Anderson's clinch and then knock him down was the kind of things Anderson is known for. Ridiculous combination of strength and technique.

Anderson didn't simply lose the first round. He was hurt, he was nearly finished. And while he did some work off his back, Weidman hit all the signfcant shots. Some of those elbows in Anderson's guard was quite telling.

And you really think Gina Carano could be Rousey? If Cyborg got the call, yes. I think Zingano is going to beat her aswell. I wish Miesha had kept some space. She was hurting Rousey every time she hit her.

 

[Slushy]

Pierre retires and Silva's career is over. 2013 marks The End Of An Era for UFC.

 

[Perfect Cell]

Are you suggesting it's Anderson's fault his leg broke? Weidman properly checked the kick, forcing Anderson's leg to hit Weidman's shinbone instead of the soft tissue in his thigh. That's the whole point of checking kicks. To turn an offensive move of your opponent into something painful for them. And it worked. Was it a 1/100000 break? Yeah. But, there isn't "checking kicks better or worse". He did it exactly as he should, as seen here:

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[DarthSkywalker]

Nothing against him, but plenty of people check kicks, and even better than he did here.
Like last time alot of this comes down to his opponent.

If he had owned his opponent like Hendricks or Cain I'd get it but twice now he's been witnessed his opponent fall to odd circumstance in round two. Like I said above, I look forward to seeing how he does going forward.

You mean the guy who got out worked and out hustled in the final round to lose a fight his stupid corner told him he was winning? That isn't what a call owning a guy. Not when you lose three rounds, including the 5th and final.

 

[Perfect Cell]

Also, I REALLY hope that bit about Carano was a joke. Since... wow. No. Carano would get butchered by Rousey. Carano was good, but she was basically an above-average kickboxer in the early days of WMMA. Cyborg is the opponent people should REALLY want, provided she could somehow make the weight.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Also, I REALLY hope that bit about Carano was a joke. Since... wow. No. Carano would get butchered by Rousey. Carano was good, but she was basically an above-average kickboxer in the early days of WMMA. Cyborg is the opponent people should REALLY want, provided she could somehow make the weight.

If Gina was allowed to come in way over weight again, yeah she'd have a shot. She could knockout out Rousey, but I wouldn't count on it. Cyborg rips Rousey apart imo.

 

[The Game]

What a horrible injury, Silva's career may well be over, truly sad.

These two fights have thrown up way more questions than answers, I am unfulfilled

 

[The Game]

Pierre retires and Silva's career is over. 2013 marks The End Of An Era for UFC.

Dana is gonna grow hair just to rip it out, his cash cows have evaporated tight in front of his eyes

 

[Marvin]

Also, I REALLY hope that bit about Carano was a joke. Since... wow. No. Carano would get butchered by Rousey. Carano was good, but she was basically an above-average kickboxer in the early days of WMMA. Cyborg is the opponent people should REALLY want, provided she could somehow make the weight.

I wasn't joking. And carano was an well versed and strong female kick boxer. I recall her losing to this a certain roided up individual though. Other than that I find her alot more formidable than tate. Even if on power alone. Considering what I've personally seen of Ronda on the feet...

I have even less doubt Cyborg could beat her but again, not a fan of the roids.

 

[E-Man]

Most people who could stay on the feet would beat Rousey. The problem is that WMMA's talent pool is so short that there isn't anyone who could do that besides Cyborg. Ronda didn't want any part of Cyborg when they were in the same weight class, and there is no way that Cyborg's big ass is making anything lower than 145. She has trouble making that as it is, and I doubt we'll ever see that fight.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I honestly hope Anderson retires. The stress is gone and if she is lucky enough to retain somewhat normal function in his leg, he should simply count himself lucky.

 

[Perfect Cell]

Nah, not really. She was never known for knockout power. Just outstriking people on route to a decision, maybe a doctor's stoppage. But she never fought anyone of the athletic calibre of Rousey. Other than Cyborg, who handled her pretty badly. WMMA today is a whole different ballgame now, and the fighters are too.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I wasn't joking. And carano was an well versed and strong female kick boxer. I recall her losing to this a certain roided up individual though. Other than that I find her alot more formidable than tate. Even if on power alone. Considering what I've personally seen of Ronda on the feet...

I have even less doubt Cyborg could beat her but again, not a fan of the roids.

Gina's MMA record is as tainted as Cyborg's. Gina was fighting much smaller women at a weight class she couldn't even make.

 

[Perfect Cell]

I wasn't joking. And carano was an well versed and strong female kick boxer. I recall her losing to this a certain roided up individual though. Other than that I find her alot more formidable than tate. Even if on power alone. Considering what I've personally seen of Ronda on the feet...

I have even less doubt Cyborg could beat her but again, not a fan of the roids.

It's been over FOUR years since Carano fought. Things in WMMA have changed considerably since then. The level of talent is way beyond what it was then.

 

[EML420]

Wow though was brutal thats like a sports movie ending but I really doubt he will be back if anything this will mistify Silvia legacy.

 

[The Game]

Once again Weidman wins the first round easily, and then something freaky happens in the second, which Weidman himself caused with good technique, and now people won't give him credit. Sadly Anderson would have probably be better off being finished in the first.

These two fights have left me with question marks about Weidman, I know he is good but how much so and I was hoping this fight would show me now I have to look forward to endless debates about this topic........at least it will make a change from Floyd v Manny

 

[Marvin]

You mean the guy who got out worked and out hustled in the final round to lose a fight his stupid corner told him he was winning? That isn't what a call owning a guy. Not when you lose three rounds, including the 5th and final.

That's great that you saw his stupid corner not tell him he was losing. And that he got outworked(I've seen that better defined in other fights tbh) in the last round, but what I meant by owning, rather showing superiority wasn't demonstrated in the highly debated 10 point round system but rather by who was seemingly the better fighter that night. From damage to what should have been 10-8 rounds in the minds of some during the course of that fight.
But I digress. I simply meant if I had seen something similar from CW I'd be convinced. Till than I can't turn a blind eye to:
A. an opponent closing his eyes dancing for him
B. an opponent having his leg snap(seems kinda rare, no matter how "well" a check has been used).

that's all.

 

[Perfect Cell]

That's great that you saw his stupid corner not tell him he was losing. And that he got outworked(I've seen that better defined in other fights tbh) in the last round, but what I meant by owning, rather showing superiority wasn't demonstrated in the highly debated 10 point round system but rather by who was seemingly the better fighter that night. From damage to what should have been 10-8 rounds in the minds of some during the course of that fight.
But I digress. I simply meant if I had seen something similar from CW I'd be convinced. Till than I can't turn a blind eye to:
A. an opponent closing his eyes dancing for him
B. an having his leg snap(seems kinda rare, no matter how "well" a check has been used).

that's all.

As odd as it may sound, damage is not a criteria in MMA judging. As seen here: http://www.ufc.ca/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations#14 Effective striking and grappling are, as well as aggression and control. But damage is not a criteria. Anderson inflicted more visible damage in the first round tonight, despite being dominated and controlled the entire round. He just happened to land some elbows from the bottom that cut Weidman. But Weidman was handily in control, inflicted the most effective striking (a knockdown, fair ground and pound), had the most effective grappling, and clearly won the round

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That's great that you saw his stupid corner not tell him he was losing. And that he got outworked(I've seen that better defined in other fights tbh) in the last round, but what I meant by owning, rather showing superiority wasn't demonstrated in the highly debated 10 point round system but rather by who was seemingly the better fighter that night. From damage to what should have been 10-8 rounds in the minds of some during the course of that fight.
But I digress. I simply meant if I had seen something similar from CW I'd be convinced. Till than I can't turn a blind eye to:
A. an opponent closing his eyes dancing for him
B. an having his leg snap(seems kinda rare, no matter how "well" a check has been used).

that's all.

Which makes no sense. Weidman did more against Anderson in the first round tonight then Hendricks did against GSP over the 5 round fight he lost. Superficial damage is superficial damage. That Hendricks rocked GSP and wasn't able to finish the guy showed something about both men. That GSP had learned a little bit about recovering since Serra, and that Hendricks wasn't able to finish a guy Serra could in a similar situation. And then he proceeded to get outworked in the final round.

In the first fight Anderson did what he always does and the reason he got knocked out is because Weidman's combination confused him. He thought it was over, moved his head body into the wrong position, got knocked out.

Then today, Weidman was close to finishing Anderson in the first then Hendricks ever was against GSP. You want to compare what Hendricks did to Weidman nearly knocking out Anderson again and then hitting him with great GnP? Those elbows shock Anderson the mat. Those punches nearly finished him again. Anderson didn't even try and get up because he was too messed up to. Wanted to hold on to Weidman in the guard, not get hit anymore.