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[B]

Awesome performance from Dos Santos last night, really destroyed Carwin from the very begining with his superior striking & in particular, his jab.

Dos Santos was using the jab to try & keep Carwin at bay, following it up with vicious uppercut attempts, hooks & overhands. Carwin should have wrestled with Dos Santos more to keep Dos Santos thinking about a takedown. It would have stopped Dos Santos being so fluid as the 2nd & 3rd round he wasn't even concerned about the takedowns it seemed.

I don't think that was a good representation on what Carwin's cardio is now like, it seemed slightly better, however Dos Santos broke his nose in round one & he could only breath through his mouth. Dos Santos's cardio doesn't look took hot, I mean he wasn't really pushed in that Carwin fight at all & he looked like he was breathing heavy at times just as he was against Big Country.. if Dos Santos can't put someone away inside a round he looks like he loses alot of the power in his hands the longer the fight goes.

Dos Santos vs Velasquez is next, personally I think there are 3 things Dos Santos looks very susceptible to & they are 3 things Velasquez does well/has: Front leg kicks, wrestling & cardio.

I don't think Velasquez should try to trade punches with Dos Santos because as much as people like to think Velasquez has good hands.. he doesn't. At least not based on what I've seen anyway. I feel his hands are not as strong as people suggest they are.. certainly not on the same level of Dos Santos striking anyway.

Brock made a wise choice pulling out of the fight with Dos Santos, the fight probably would have went different as Brock is more relentless with his takedowns so either he'd have kept Dos Santos pressed against the cage/on his back for 3 rounds or he'd have been knocked out trying. However he made a wise choice, if he wasn't going to be able to be at 100% going into the fight he'd have got slaughtered.

 

[Bubonic]

This is the mess of Carwin's face.
Please don't open this if you've got a weak stomach.

Spoiler

 

[Bubonic]

This is where the brunt of that happened.

 

[B]

This is the mess of Carwin's face.
Please don't open this if you've got a weak stomach.

Spoiler

The cut under the his right eye had to be the one that hurt the most, it was the one I think Dos Santos opened up with one of his strong jabs & then made worse the longer the fight went on..

I feel bad for Carwin, hope he gets either Brenden Schaub or Roy Nelson next. Hopefully he can knock Schaub the **** out.. I hate that guy, wouldn't mind seeing Brock fight him & give him a pasting on the ground like he did Frank Mir.

This is where the brunt of that happened.

This is the way all fights should go, let the fight go until the fighter is actually finished or taps out to the strikes. Carwin was still moving & he was using his right hand to partially block most of those punches before usuing his left arm.

He obviously wasn't finished either given that he managed to work his way back to his feet, after the Lesnar fight people questioned Carwin's heart, he redeemed himself last night in my eyes anyway.

 

[CrypticOne]

Hell yeah! WAR DOS SANTOS!

Can't wait to see Cain and Dos Santos to go at it! That is the HW fight of the decade!

 

[Paroxysm]

Sam Stout destroyed Yves Edwards.

 

[Bubonic]

I was Oh Canada-ing when he did it, especially when he refrained himself from following up when he could have, and unfortunately some do like to hit obviously knocked out opponents.

Yves Edwards is ****ing awesome and I hope he recovers from that knockout, it looked really bad.

 

[Paroxysm]

Yeah Sam showed a lot of class by not following up with bombs. I frigging hate when fighters do that.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I hope that he isn't going to fight, but that he'll be invovled in the UFC in Public Relations. He does have name appeal:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-be-a-part-of-the-ufc-according-to-dana-white

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Carwin looks like a GoW locust

 

[Paroxysm]

 

[Bubonic]

Those knockouts are always risky as hell, take one to give one is some fearless warrior ****.

 

[Slushy]

Did Carwin gas out again? I was bummed to hear he lost as I was looking forward to seeing him go at it with Cain.

 

[Bubonic]

I think reading B's post at the top of the page would answer that question.
Anyways he didn't gas he was just outclassed.

 

[Texas Zombie]

Is age a factor, i believe so.
He was simply not fast enough, didn't block well enough, and was simply sloppy, but when you get dazed at the beginning of a fight its hard to recover, we can't all be chris leben.

 

[Slushy]

Who hates Clay Guida?

Not me. I've been watching some of his fights and he is one tough bastard. The dude can take a beating!

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Wow sounds like a good fight, I will have to check it out.

 

[E-Man]

I didn't get a chance to see any of the fights yet, but damn Carwin looked like he got put through a meat grinder. I'm glad we're still getting JDS and Cain as long as no more injuries occur. *crosses fingers*

 

[Bubonic]

Mixed martial arts might not end up with as many retired athletes with their brains turned to mush as boxing but they'll certainly have more with broken bodies.

 

[Texas Zombie]

yeah, there are only like 2 deaths in sanctioned mma, and a bunch in boxing.

We have yet to see the long term ramifications the sport has on its fighters, chuck should get a brain scan every year.

 

[Bubonic]

That's what I'm saying, the nature of boxing makes permanent brain injury much more likely.

In boxing I've got 8 seconds to get my **** together, so I can survive a flash knockout and scramble up for more, these types of knockouts in mma are always finished on the spot because the fighter needs to be present at all times.

Then you've got the hand protecting padded gloves and the 12 three minute rounds of mostly getting your head bashed in, mma looks more brutal but the brain bashing isn't as consistent and drawn out.

But with all the submissions and high-octane training the joints of mma fighters go through the ringer. I hardly know of anyone on the competitive circuit that doesn't have knee or shoulder injuries, so I'm just theorizing that in the long run, while old boxers will be eating out of tubes old mma fighters might need to be hand feed because our bodies will be crippled with arthritis and that sort of crap.

 

[B]

yeah, there are only like 2 deaths in sanctioned mma, and a bunch in boxing.

We have yet to see the long term ramifications the sport has on its fighters, chuck should get a brain scan every year.

In my own opinion. I think depending on the type of fighter you are, boxers typically would suffer more long term damage in terms of their brain. MMA looks more brutal because of how severe some of the KO's visually look, however they are usually over quickly.

You are very rarely rocked & not finished in most MMA bouts. However because of the nature of boxing you could be rocked/badly hurt 6 or 7 times in a fight if your caught with a clean enough punch.. and basically even if you are not knocked down it takes a hell of a barrage of standing punches before a referee steps in & calls an end to the fight.

Every MMA fighter gets a scan before & after a fight to make sure they are fit to fight, any sort of indication of a brain problem or a developing brain problem & they would not be cleared to fight. Chuck included.

Chuck's recent KO's came simply as a result of him being slower, older & getting caught with hard strong punches. No man or woman is excempt from being knocked out, if you are hit hard enough in that sweet spot of your jaw or head you will be out cold.

Some however do display a higher tolerance & an ability to recover quicker, however I'd personally put that down to their conditioning, age & most importantly not being caught in the 'sweet spot'.

 

[E-Man]

I think that Werdum is going to surprise people with a win tomorrow. It shouldn't be an upset, but the whole Ubereem hype has people acting like Overeem is some kind of MMA god. I won't buy into the hype until he beats someone better than the mediocre fighters he's fought, but I can see how he is favored over Werdum. Werdum doesn't have good takedowns, and his standup is far and away lesser than Overeem who can claim that he's got the best striking in the heavyweight division. Still, Overeem's cardio hasn't been tested at all since he's put on a lot of weight, and I could see how Werdum could use the cage to his advantage to tire Overeem out. I think he'll go for the clinch with Overeem, either let Overeem take him down or grind him up against the cage working for takedowns. Once Overeem gets tired he'll take him down and sub him like in their first fight. This is a major test for Overeem, so it's good we'll finally get to see him fighting good competition.

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

If Overeem wins I want to see him in the ufc heavyweight mix now that Zuffa owns strikefore.

 

[Bubonic]

Overeem is pretty serious business, but yes, everytime a fighter gets on a winning streak he's the next Fedor.

Fans are fickle forgetful creatures.