Official UFC Thread

[mrvlknight21]

One of the best UFC events I have seen in a while.

The prelims were really good.

Tito surprised me (and most) with his quick choke out of Bader.
Leben did what I expected, glad for his win.
Faber-Cruz fight was good. I was pulling for Faber, but he never could get anything.


How about that TERRIBLE decision in the Wiman fight?? Wow.

 

[B]

Really great card last night, couldn't pick a bad fight amongst the lot of them. Even the 2 decision fights from the main card were good scraps.

 

[Paroxysm]

Yeah it was a solid card all around.

Melvin Guillard really impressed me with his performance, best part of his fight with Roller was when he showed great composure by waiting for Roller to get up to the legal position before crushing him with his knee. So awesome.

 

[Paroxysm]

How about that TERRIBLE decision in the Wiman fight?? Wow.

it wasn't TERRIBLE.



Siver clearly won round 1
Winman clearly won round 2
Siver edged out Winman in round 3

Right decision, could only have been a draw otherwise.

 

[E-Man]

Tito! Tito! Tito!

 

[misjuevos]

it's good tito got to keep his job, but to be honest i was never a fan of him. back when he was "the man" i was bored with his style. then i saw my first pride show the card had wand vs guy mezger. he gave him an illegal head butt then ko'd him. i would watch the ufc, but couldn't wait for the pride events. and yes seeing wand ko'd was really a sad day yesterday.

 

[B]

it wasn't TERRIBLE.



Siver clearly won round 1
Winman clearly won round 2
Siver edged out Winman in round 3

Right decision, could only have been a draw otherwise.

I personally thought Siver won the fight before I'd even heard the decision, it was a close fight but I thought he'd just did enough.

 

[misjuevos]

chael sonnen interview from a few days ago, if you haven't seen it already. talks marquardt, wand vs leben, as well as other things.

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then chael post fight at wand vs leben.
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charles oliveira to face donald cerrone at ufc on versus 5 on August 14

im excited about the oliveira fight.

big nog comments on dana white retiring fighters.

 

[E-Man]

Olivera/Cerrone is going to get Fight of the Night. It's probably going to the ground, and both guys are very active when fights go to the ground. I think this will look like Sanchez/Diaz and Stevenson/Sotiropoulos.

 

[Texas Zombie]

tito?

 

[E-Man]

So apparently Phil Davis got injured, and now he is out of UFC 133 against Rashad. Machida and Tito were offered the fight and declined. Most others are booked, so it's sort of a mess because we're only 3 weeks out from the fight. I saw either move Franklin or Lil Nog into the main event with Rashad or give Rashad anyone willing to fight on such short notice. It sucks for Phil getting injured. I hope he recovers with all his athleticism intact.

Edit: Link
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Machida-Declines-Evans-For-UFC-133-Wife-Says-Itd-Be-Silliness-33932

 

[Norman Osborn]

Actually Tito/Evans 2 is officially on


https://***********/#!/danawhite

 

[El Bastardo]

And it looks like I'll be cheering for Tito whole-heartedly this time.

 

[Paroxysm]

Actually Tito/Evans 2 is officially on


https://***********/#!/danawhite

Dana White Says Machida initially took the fight with Rashad but then demanded "Anderson Silva" money, the bout ended up being accepted by Tito Ortiz.

 

[Texas Zombie]

damn if tito wins, this would feel like the twilight zone.

 

[E-Man]

I'm a big fan of both, Tito and Rashad. I think it will be better than their first fight since Rashad won't be "starstruck" and Tito is reinvigorated now. I think Rashad takes it though.

 

[CrypticOne]

I hope Evans knocks Ortiz. Should be a good fight though.

 

[Paroxysm]

I'm a big fan of both, Tito and Rashad. I think it will be better than their first fight since Rashad won't be "starstruck" and Tito is reinvigorated now. I think Rashad takes it though.

I've never really been a Tito fan but I'll be rooting for him because I love seeing guys make comebacks.

 

[E-Man]

If Tito makes a big comeback I'm happy because too many people discounted what he did as the champ because of what Chuck and Dana said. The guy beat some legit guys back in his heyday, yet people gloss over that to focus on his losses to Chuck and his down years since 2006. The guy was very good when he was on top, and probably the best ground and pound guy because of his good BJJ.

 

[TheVileOne]

I have an even lower opinion of Machida now after his management tried to shakedown the UFC for this Evans fight. Even lower of him than after the Shogun fiasco.

 

[Paroxysm]

Machida: "But, after meeting with my team, we saw that it wouldn’t be a good idea, especially because Dana White wanted me to travel to the U.S. immediately to have my training camp there. Many of the members of my corner don’t have visas right now. Then, I said, ‘If you want me to fight, pay me as a champion. Pay me like you pay Anderson Silva."

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/7/1...irms-that-he-did-ask-for-anderson-silva-money

Jesus, you'd think by now his corner guys would have their visa's in order. I guess not.

 

[E-Man]

I can see why Machida wanted more money. It's a fight against an elite LHW on 3 week's notice, and regardless of the fact that he owned Rashad before it's still a risk going into a fight like that. Of course I don't know how much Anderson actually makes, so I don't know if it's outrageous for him to ask for that money or if Dana is just being...well Dana. The only issue for me is that they accepted the fight and then reneged on it after wanting more money. They should have just told Dana that he'll think about it before accepting and then holding out for more money.

 

[brainchild81]

He's not A.Silva. He should ****

 

[Paroxysm]

Matt Mitrione vs. Cheick Kongo on Tap for UFC 137

 

[B]

Well done Dana White

Lyoto Machida doesn't deserve Anderson Silva money, maybe if he puts on an entertaining fight for once he could ask for big money.

Every matchup Machida has fought in, his point scoring/no risks type style has killed the matchup.. except the 2 Shogun fights in which that style got him an ass whooping.. twice.

I actually think Tito is a tougher fight for Rashad than Davis was. Alot was made about Tito's winless streak in the UFC until he beat Bader, but in truth none of those loses were definitive ass kickings, they were all close.. and to some of the divisions top guys. The one bad one which I think made everyone think Tito was done, was the Hamill lose.. however by then beating Bader whos only other lose was to the current champion he has revived himself.

Tito's in a very confident spot right now with the win over Bader & I'm sure the fact that hes mentally confident that he beat Rashad the last time they fought, which technically he would have had he not been deducted a point for cage holding.. well this could be a dangerous fight for Rashad & a great time for Tito to fight him.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tito managed to beat Rashad, Rashad's hands are fast, but Tito's chin is solid. Rashad's chin is made of glass & if he gets caught, Tito's ground & pound is/was fierce.

Looking forward to this event a little more now.