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[Mace Bloodstone]

vid gone again.. What did he say?

 

[I'm Not a Hero]

Who cares. The UFC is better off without Nick Diaz. Who know what else he would have missed. You can't excuse this type of behavior.

 

[TheVileOne]

Diaz said he was sorry for not showing up to the beauty pageant. Says he never skips a fight. Which is a lie. He's a liar.

He also said he was driving back to Stockton. Says nothing about people trying to call him. Says someone doesn't want him to win.

He's a ****ing loser and a mental midget. Good riddance.

Diaz, the person who doesn't want you to win is YOU bro. You screwed Jay Hieron too.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I've seen alot of fights throughout the years and I've yet to see a professional fighter get knocked to the ground with a jab or glancing blow who wasn't facing Anderson Silva. I believe it happens, but it's just I've never seen it at this level before. Most knockdowns or knockouts are the result of a full or nearly full swing. Jabs and glancing hits are just shrugged off for the most part.

It might be because their striking skills aren't on the same level as professional boxers. Watching decades worth of boxing matches and you will see plenty of knockouts or at least knockdowns due to unusually "soft" looking punches.

Probably the most famous happened in Ali vs. Liston [I think the first fight].

Most of the big punches in the UFC are just that like you say, big punches throwing full swings like Lidell or Wanderli Silva.

They're aren't many true striking technicians in the UFC who also have the power to back it up with any punch thrown.

 

[TheVileOne]

Its not the power, but the SPEED that kills according to Bernard Hopkins. I think that's why Anderson Silva is so dangerous.

BJ Penn is another MMA fighter who has really good western style boxing. I remember in the Sanchez fight he was bobbing and weaving and Sanchez couldn't keep up with BJ Penn at all.

 

[misjuevos]

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here it is again, the diaz in his car one.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Wow, I stay away from MMA news for three days and this happens...

Well, I'm extremely delighted that Diaz was stripped of his title shot. Nick did nothing special to receive this privilege. Furthermore, I do not know why fans labeled this bout a "Super-Fight". The Diaz Bros are the most overrated duo in MMA today. GSP would have taken him down at will and keep him tied to the ground for 23 out of the 25 minutes scheduled. His BJJ would have been easily neutralized as well. I gave Diaz a zero chance in hell.

I love Carlos Condit (big fan). He's a good sized Welterweight but I see him getting the same treatment. However, Condit is a crazy ****. He'll keep on coming to GSP with his crisp striking, and won't fear the takedown. I give Carlos a slim chance but there's one factor that might work in his favor if GSP makes a single mistake -- Carlos is got giant heart. He refuses to lose. It's something that Diaz lacked immensely.

This is going to be very interesting, to say the least.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I sensed that Overeem vs. Lesnar would happen.

This could be either the easliest fight for Overeem to date, or a complete nightmare.

Overeem's striking is thousands of lightyears ahead of Lesnar's (this is where the fight should stay for the Demolition Man). If Brock has any sense left in that empty skull of his, he'll forgo the stand up aspect of the fight and focus on the takedown. Alistair's gameplan for this bout will be fairly simple to figure out. He'll limit the legkicks and knees, and utilize his hands alot more (uppercuts and hooks) similar strategy to his last fight.

In my humble opinion, Alistair should drop about 10 pounds. All that muscle mass could end up biting him in the a**, if this fight happens to go beyond two rounds. Stamina and TDD is a must. He should be focusing on nothing else. Lesnar's hands are nothing to worry about (all things considering that Lesnar doesn't know how to throw one) but measures and precautions must be taken. Alistair cannot risk taking damage from a 265 lb gorilla, therefore, head movement is another valuable advantage that Overeem possesses, and must implement during the fight.

Watch out for the Guillotine Brock!

Go Team Reem!

 

[misjuevos]

yea the best thing overeem can do against the takedown is his famous guillotine. i would love if he subbed brock's giant neck by guillotine. like i said before this matchup will either prove dutch strikers still can't handle american wrestlers. or and im hoping for this, that overeem is able to stuff the takedown and show how well rounded i think he is. he also has a good kimura.

 

[Project862006]

Carlos is a more dangerous opponent imo

his striking is more dangerous

he is faster than diaz
has more power in his hands than diaz
more dynamic with elbows,kicks,knees,etc.

 

[E-Man]

I think Condit is going to lose to GSP, but he is a better matchup. If there is one thing I'll give Diaz is it's credit for going after it in his fights. Condit is the same way, but with more power and a little bit more killer instinct. His problem is his takedown defense though, and that just spells disaster against GSP. He'll fight his ass off from his back, but he'll just open himself up to GSP doing more ground and pound. Either way it goes I'm still excited because Condit is a warrior. Besides, he brought up a great point about how he didn't get a title shot when Zuffa merged the WEC 170+ weight classes into the UFC when he was champ. Now that Diaz basically backed down from the 3:00 school yard show down Condit has his chance. I'm happy for him.

A good question now is who B.J. Penn fights. A lot of people have been asking for Gil Melendez. I'd be ultra happy with that because Gil vs. B.J. is one of those fights I've wanted to see for a while. At this point Strikeforce is on its dying legs anyway. Just bring Gil over and throw him in the deep 155 title picture.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

yea the best thing overeem can do against the takedown is his famous guillotine. i would love if he subbed brock's giant neck by guillotine. like i said before this matchup will either prove dutch strikers still can't handle american wrestlers. or and im hoping for this, that overeem is able to stuff the takedown and show how well rounded i think he is. he also has a good kimura.

Indeed, Overeem's Guillotine Choke is scary. The crushing power is unimaginable to me. Alistair mastered the choke before turning Pro, can you imagine now that he's added nearly 50 lbs of muscle mass? Assuredly, Brock does not want to find out, even with a tree trunk-sized neck...

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I think Condit is going to lose to GSP, but he is a better matchup. If there is one thing I'll give Diaz is it's credit for going after it in his fights. Condit is the same way, but with more power and a little bit more killer instinct. His problem is his takedown defense though, and that just spells disaster against GSP. He'll fight his ass off from his back, but he'll just open himself up to GSP doing more ground and pound. Either way it goes I'm still excited because Condit is a warrior. Besides, he brought up a great point about how he didn't get a title shot when Zuffa merged the WEC 170+ weight classes into the UFC when he was champ. Now that Diaz basically backed down from the 3:00 school yard show down Condit has his chance. I'm happy for him.

A good question now is who B.J. Penn fights. A lot of people have been asking for Gil Melendez. I'd be ultra happy with that because Gil vs. B.J. is one of those fights I've wanted to see for a while. At this point Strikeforce is on its dying legs anyway. Just bring Gil over and throw him in the deep 155 title picture.

BJ Penn is still scheduled to fight on the card, so Gilbert is out of the question unless he agrees to a Catchweight bout, which I think is unfair.

I have a strong gut-feeling that Rory McDonald might get this slot. He's being declared by fans and the boss himself as the future of the sport, and this card is taking placing in Canada, so it all plays perfectly to the agenda.

 

[E-Man]

I'd be fine with Rory against B.J. It could be a very good fight.

 

[Paroxysm]

He's fighting Brian Ebersole‎ at UFC 140, so i doubt he'll be fighting B.J. I also heard that they aren't going to be rushing him into any big fights right now.

 

[CrypticOne]

Carlos is a more dangerous opponent imo

his striking is more dangerous

he is faster than diaz
has more power in his hands than diaz
more dynamic with elbows,kicks,knees,etc.

You gotta be kidding me. Condit has better striking than Diaz?! Get that outta here! Diaz' boxing is outta Condit's league. Don't get me wrong, Condit is a pretty good striker and he may be more dynamic with using his kicks and that fancy stuff, but if you put these two in a boxing ring, Condit would get lit up quick.

I'm gonna be rooting for Condit against GSP, by the way.

Also, they announced Penn/Diaz. That is gonna be a good scrap. Two of my favorite fighters.

 

[Paroxysm]

So what they just devoted his ass?

 

[Project862006]

You gotta be kidding me. Condit has better striking than Diaz?! Get that outta here! Diaz' boxing is outta Condit's league. Don't get me wrong, Condit is a pretty good striker and he may be more dynamic with using his kicks and that fancy stuff, but if you put these two in a boxing ring, Condit would get lit up quick.

I'm gonna be rooting for Condit against GSP, by the way.

Also, they announced Penn/Diaz. That is gonna be a good scrap. Two of my favorite fighters.

did i say he was a better striker?no

i said he is more dangerous and he is more unpredictable than diaz

 

[CrypticOne]

did i say he was a better striker?no

i said he is more dangerous and he is more unpredictable than diaz

I wouldn't say he's more dangerous. He's wild. Diaz is more technical and knows where to place strikes to make you crumble. I'd say Diaz is more dangerous. He may have more power, but that doesn't matter when you're standing with someone like Diaz.

For instance, Paul Daley probably has way more power than both Diaz and Condit. Diaz still took him out on the feet.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Diaz is a Boxer, not a striker.

He rarely uses kicks, elbows, and knees. Thus, Diaz is NOT the more well-rounded and dangerous striker.

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

Condit

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[Paroxysm]

add me!

Team REEM:

Me
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Mace Bloodstone

 

[misjuevos]

Diaz is now fighting BJ Penn holy crap. now this is a better fight to watch. so how much press will he have to do now for his penn fight? just sucks that he gets punished by not getting to fight for the belt but really still gets to fight, so what kind of punishment is that. i'm really just happy diaz still gets to fight, i was looking forward to it. now even more so. we will get to see diaz's chin, and boxing against a better striker and harder hitter than gsp. i know he fought daley already, but penn has crisper standup. also daley has no takedown defense. i think diaz is gonna work the body and probably show how his body punches are brutal.

 

[E-Man]

With all that's going on lately I'm halfway expecting Anderson to be added to the Jones/Rampage match to make it a triple threat or some ****.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Finally! Diaz's b***h a** is gonna have to earn it now.