Batman 1989 has a higher rating, with it's sociopathic mass-murdering Batman
Batman IS sociopathic. He lies to everyone and has a double life. He operates outside the law>
As for mass-murderer... hello? What mass did Batman ever kill? As far as I remember he let the thugs at the beginning pof B89 live, and even tried to save Jack Napier's life. Sure, when it comes down to save the whole city or avenge the murder of his parents he doesn't mind to take a life or two. Which is something extracted directly from the early comics, and even Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne thought of revenge by killing Joe Chill.
(he kills more people than the Joker), it's sloppy directing and editing,
Joker killed dozens at the parade.
Please tell me where and when Batman killed so many.
lazy writing and nonsensical third act.
What is nonsensical about it? That Joker gets to kill the masses, as he does in comic books? That Batman comes in time to stop him?
And the Joker killed the Wayne's (STUPID).
Again, what is stupid about it?
Change the identity of the Waynes's killer... what does actually change?
And it's not like character merging hasn't happened before, and like dozens and dozens of times. Because I find it weirder and more different that Ra's al Ghul is Batman's mentor.
Batman Returns as well, despite Batman barely appearing in his own movie,
If you time Batman screentime in every movie, Burton's and B Forever are the ones that are with the highest percentage of screentime for the superhero.
There's a thread about it:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=335105&highlight=
But I'll sum it up:
Batman '89: 27:31 min/126= .216 or
22% of bat screen time
Batman Returns: 24:37/126= .193 or
19% of Bat screen time
Batman Begins: 24:14/140= .172 or
17% of Bat screen time
The Dark Knight: 27:36/152= .18 or
18% of Bat screen time
The Dark Knight Rises: 21:13/164=
13% of Bat screen time.
I believe the worst case there is Batman Begins. Because even when Batman was there, you couldn't see it and/or follow his actions.
the Penguin being a lame villain who has three different schemes foiled in the span of five minutes,
No, it was three during the whole movie, and two of them were used when the previous ones failed.
a Catwoman who's nuts and was licked back to life by cats, and Christopher Walken being the main villain. It should have been called Burton's freak show the movie.
Christopher Walken is not the main villain, but even if he were... what's wrong with it?
Some people ahave also said that Nolan's bat-movies should have been called "Police Drama Begins," "Police Drama" and "Police Drama Rises."
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I will never understand the love Burton gets for Batman (should be aptly named Crapman and Crapman Returns). Never seen such disrespect for the canon (especially in his equally ******ed Superman project that never made to theatres...Thank Rao it didn't).
What do you rate 'Superman Lives'?