Old MCU Fantastic Four Discussion Thread

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I trust that Feige made the right decision hiring Watts. After the previous Fantastic Four movies, he of all people knows that they must get this one right.
 
Feige clearly likes Watts. When the whole debacle with Sony happened, both studios were hard-core recruiting Watts by all accounts. That indicates Feige is very happy with the work Watts has done with Spider-Man
 
This reeks of "doing something new" again. I'm willing to give Watts a chance, but is a very vanilla choice for me. Neither of his Spidey movies showed he can handle spectacle all that well either. Meh.
 
There's something small time about Watts' Spider-Man films. You would never get the impression Spider-Man is the top dog at Marvel watching them. They are like eating cotton candy and the best MCU films are a satisfying meal.

The other Spider-Man films feel a lot bigger, even the bad ones.
 
Really disappointed in this choice for F4. F4 really deserves someone totally fresh and visionary. Watts is ok and underwhelming at best. This needed a Scott Derrikson or Taika type to tackle this.

Watts Spidey films are mediocre and boring.
 
Torn.

I LOVED Homecoming. I felt it both heartfelt, fun, real to a modern version of teen Peter, exciting in it's action and with a great villain. I thought it was great full intro to MCU Spidey.

I... Really DISLIKE Far From Home. It has all the aspects I cannot find much to enjoy or praise about in Marvel's products and approach too often. It's bland, the characters are paper thin when they aren't writtne to be cartoon characters literally, it has one stand out visual sequence at best and I'm sorry but I when it comes to Jake... He was bland and unengaging. They nailed the HOWs of Mysterio and gave us a good version of what a clash between him and Spidey in live action would be... But everything else is just flat and dull and by the numbers.

So... Watts is a mixed bag for me.

The thing that gives me hope is... I don't think Spidey is the best gauge of the constency of his talent and vision within the super hero genre. There is so much dictated from on high with Spidey because of the rights issues. This is a precious jewel with a shared ownership caught between the egos and interests of two corporate giants. I am betting Watts gets notes on top of notes. So I am willing to chalk up a lot of my disdain for FFH to how much the Spidey franchise at Marvel is the one most likely with the least amount of creative freedom with the most amount of corporate dictates that trickle down to development and on set.

Watts also indicates as others have pointed out, that Marvel is looking to make this very, very accessible to the audience.

That casting and then the first images are gonna be big factors in terms of my hype right now.
 
I do expect a multiracial maybe even all black Fantastic Four.

Don't shoot me. Just an odd hunch.
I’m fine with whoever they cast as long as it isn’t John Krasinski and Emily Blunt. Those two have been fancast to death to the point it’s gotten kind of annoying, and people are just insisting it be them and no one else can play the roles.
 
I do expect some race-bending with the FF, but I do think Ben Grimm will remain white Jewish. Reed, Johnny, and Sue could be any race and I wouldn’t care.
 
I do expect some race-bending with the FF, but I do think Ben Grimm will remain white Jewish. Reed, Johnny, and Sue could be any race and I wouldn’t care.

I,just wish they would leave this franchise,alone with the race and gender changes..,just once let the movies look like the comics...they are my favorite and I want them to look that way race and all...it just adds to,the authenticity
 
Was excited when I saw the announcement, but then I saw the director...I'm hoping for an ok movie, much like the ones from Spidey in the MCU.
 
I mean, I get it, but at the same time, why him?
Well I'm wondering if what Watts did in managing an ensemble of young actors in the Spidey franchise is what clinched it for him.

Could we be seeing an FF in their late teens/20s? Dunno how I'd feel about that.
 
I,just wish they would leave this franchise,alone with the race and gender changes..,just once let the movies look like the comics...they are my favorite and I want them to look that way race and all...it just adds to,the authenticity
Eh, whatever man. You do you. It’s still possible Marvel makes them all lily white people btw I’m just speculating. Though, even if they cast all white people please don’t get Krasinski and Blunt.
 
There's something small time about Watts' Spider-Man films. You would never get the impression Spider-Man is the top dog at Marvel watching them. They are like eating cotton candy and the best MCU films are a satisfying meal.

The other Spider-Man films feel a lot bigger, even the bad ones.
Nevermind top dog, his solos feel smaller than most of the other MCU solos. Far smaller than any of the Raimi films too.
 
Feige clearly likes Watts. When the whole debacle with Sony happened, both studios were hard-core recruiting Watts by all accounts. That indicates Feige is very happy with the work Watts has done with Spider-Man

Cos Watts has no ambitions.

That's the problem with his Spider-Man movies. He has no vision of his own.
 
Nevermind top dog, his solos feel smaller than most of the other MCU solos. Far smaller than any of the Raimi films too.
Yeah, they just feel light compared to most Spider-Man things I know. It's like watching Spider-Man TAS or Spectacular and watching Ultimate or Amazing Friends right after.
 
Yeah, they just feel light compared to most Spider-Man things I know. It's like watching Spider-Man TAS or Spectacular and watching Ultimate or Amazing Friends right after.
That's exactly how it feels to me. They're good, just don't seem all that important (Homecoming in particular, even with Stark involved).
 
For me... I like a more small bore feel for Spidey movies.
I get Spidey is street level but I always felt the stakes in the other movies more for whatever reason.

His relationships felt more significant and everything felt more important. I feel like I'm watching Ant-Man movies and I don't like that feeling watching Spider-Man.
 
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