Old MCU Fantastic Four Discussion Thread

[Crimz]

Likely fake if it's coming from her, but like the idea of them not going with big names. I hope that part is at least true.

 

[Iceman]

I’m a fan of JGL so would like to see him get a role in the MCU.

 

[Stark Bauer]

I literally just read this and was going to check here to see if she was credible.

I certainly won’t be surprised if they do something like this. I just don’t know if it’s real or just speculation.

she isn’t credible. She is the same person who said Pedro Pascal was leaving the Mandalorian permanently

 

[Stark Bauer]

All they need to do to “reveal” the First Family in a post credits scene showing either the Avengers building sporting a brand new ‘4’ on top / a character saying we have a new owner who will be renaming The Avengers tower to The Baxter Building.

 

[Silvermoth]

I could see them doing a “Reed Richards used to be the most brilliant man of his time...but he disappeared mysteriously decades ago” type Easter egg

 

[Stark Bauer]

I could see them doing a “Reed Richards used to be the most brilliant man of his time...but he disappeared mysteriously decades ago” type Easter egg

yes they did this with Hank Pym.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Hate to post Grace Randolph but this place is pretty dead so I take it with a planet of salt:


One Fantastic Four Member May Debut In Upcoming Disney Plus Show

• 05 January 2021
  
• by Christian Bone
• We Got This Covered

The Fantastic Four are on their way to the McU. Last month, a(nother) reboot movie for Marvel’s First Family was finally officially announced, with Spider-Man director Jon Watts set to helm, but we still have many questions about how the heroes will be folded into the franchise. For one, given how Marvel usually does things, it’s unlikely their own film will be where they’re introduced. And, according to the latest word on the topic, one of the foursome could debut before the rest.

Beyond the Trailer’s Grace Randolph has shared what she’s heard about the Four’s arrival in the McU on social media. “#Marvel is looking for #FantasticFour actors right now & will likely go w/ smaller, highly regarded actors rather than a big name,” the scooper said. As for when they could first appear, she added: “Also theories that they’ll be introduced in #AntMan3 are correct.

One Fantastic Four Member May Debut In Upcoming Disney Plus Show - IMDb

my personal take is they won’t debut on Disney+ most likely mentioned by name but not actually appear in full until their movie or another likely scenario is at the end credits for Spider Man 3 or Ant Man 3 or perhaps Doctor Strange 2

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H.E.R.B.I.E.

 

[Jordacar]

We're definitely getting a version of H.E.R.B.I.E. in the films. I welcome it.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I don’t really think the “lost in time” storyline is likely at this point.

If Peyton Reed were director, I think that would have been far more likely ( since that was his baby).

Some potentially good opportunities for cameos:

Victor Von Doom as international figure in Black Widow or Falcon and Winter Soldier or Black Panther 2.

Victor Von Doom (or mother) as mystic arts practitioner in Wandavision or Dr. Strange 2.

Reed Richards (and/or Doom) as Super-Genius in Black Panther 2 or Ant-Man 3..

Ben Grimm as pilot in Black Widow or Falcon and Winter Soldier.

Johnny Storm as classmate to Peter Parker in Spider-Man 3 (with his sister, Sue, also possibly appearing).

Sue Storm as friend to Jennifer Walters in She-Hulk.

 

[Web-Head]

I would still love to see Margot Robbie as Sue

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I don’t really think the “lost in time” storyline is likely at this point.

If Peyton Reed were director, I think that would have been far more likely ( since that was his baby).

Some potentially good opportunities for cameos:

Victor Von Doom as international figure in Black Widow or Falcon and Winter Soldier or Black Panther 2.

Victor Von Doom (or mother) as mystic arts practitioner in Wandavision or Dr. Strange 2.

Reed Richards (and/or Doom) as Super-Genius in Black Panther 2 or Ant-Man 3..

Ben Grimm as pilot in Black Widow or Falcon and Winter Soldier.

Johnny Storm as classmate to Peter Parker in Spider-Man 3 (with his sister, Sue, also possibly appearing).

Sue Storm as friend to Jennifer Walters in She-Hulk.

Giving us DOOM first would be... I'd take it in a heartbeat.

 

[MilkmanDan]

I don't know if he's been mentioned before but Nicholas Hamilton has a good look and age for Johnny Storm. I really liked his performance as the disturbed bully in "It", but it's the only big role I've seen from him. I wonder if he can play fun-loving and likable equally well.

 

[Iceman]

I would still love to see Margot Robbie as Sue

It would certainly put the film on the map! I don’t think we’re getting her though.

 

[InCali]

It would certainly put the film on the map! I don’t think we’re getting her though.

It wouldn’t make a lot of sense because of how high profile she is in DC.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think it could be a bit jarring to see her as an anarchist like Harley over in DC and then a peacemaker like Sue over at Marvel.

I'd prefer to see Lily James as Sue anyway.

 

[Xeno]

I’m a fan of JGL so would like to see him get a role in the MCU.

I like him too but I'm not sure he's a good fit for Reed. Feige and Sarah Finn have a sterling track record with casting the MCU thus far, so I'm sure that whoever they choose will be perfect. Even if it's JGL or (ugh!) the charisma-free void that is Krasinski/Blunt.

 

[Web-Head]

I think it could be a bit jarring to see her as an anarchist like Harley over in DC and then a peacemaker like Sue over at Marvel.

I'd prefer to see Lily James as Sue anyway.

Not necessarily. She's hardly recognizable as Harley with the make-up. It's all moot anyway because there's pretty much no chance she plays Sue

 

[Xeno]

I don't do the fan-casting thing much but I have been wondering whether Marvel will go with a Black actor for Reed Richards. They've (apparently) cast Jonathan Majors as Kang/Nathaniel Richards, who of course has some convoluted familial relationship with Reed. It might follow that since Kang is being played by an African American, his ancestor/descendant should be, too. That is logical, in a way, although people can be related and look as if they come from entirely different ethnic backgrounds. Feige has promised more diversity in the MCU, which such a casting decision would definitely add, though at the risk of causing the same outrage from so-called "fans" as casting Michael B. Jordan in 4stic did.

It seems as likely that Kang in the MCU has a different origin than he does in the comics, as is often the case. His background is completely muddled, as far as I remember it, so he may not even be Reed's relative at all. Didn't Kang and Doom speculate that they might be related at some point? Who knows what Watts and Feige will come up with after sifting through all of that

 

[Detective Conan]

A black Reed is possible. If they do go with a black actor for him, I think Kingsley Ben Adir who played iconic black intellectuals like Obama in the Comey Rule and played Malcom X in One Night In Miami(he’s getting Oscar buzz for that ) would be a good fit.

 

[OB12]

Kingsley Ben-Adir would be pretty great. I haven't seen much of his work, but I liked him in The OA. Also, the more I think about it, the more I like Lauren Cohan for Sue.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I would still love to see Margot Robbie as Sue

DC's biggest sweetheart is never going to be a face of a Marvel franchise.

 

[Xeno]

A black Reed is possible. If they do go with a black actor for him, I think Kingsley Ben Adir who played iconic black intellectuals like Obama in the Comey Rule and played Malcom X in One Night In Miami(he’s getting Oscar buzz for that ) would be a good fit.

Spoiler

Hey, look! It's a Black actor who isn't John David Washington!

Seriously, though, I would be fine with Marvel making Reed a Black man as long as it isn't stunt casting, which I felt was the case with Jordan. The whole Storm family should have been from one race. Trank wanted Sue to be Black, too, but Fox shot him down, so I can forgive that a little. What really matters is characterization, of course. 4stic was just a crappy script by crappy writers who neither knew nor cared who the heroes were. So long as the new writers nail the characters and the tone, cut back on bad dialogue and create a sense of wonder, FF can be a hit.

 

[Stark Bauer]

I would still love to see Margot Robbie as Sue

too sexy for Sue. Perfect for Emma Frost, Enchantress, or Silver Sable

 

[Stark Bauer]

I think it could be a bit jarring to see her as an anarchist like Harley over in DC and then a peacemaker like Sue over at Marvel.

I'd prefer to see Lily James as Sue anyway.

i didn’t find it jarring to see Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool after playing Green Lantern. Chris Evans was Human Torch and Cap I would argue that is even MORE jarring

 

[Stark Bauer]

I don't do the fan-casting thing much but I have been wondering whether Marvel will go with a Black actor for Reed Richards. They've (apparently) cast Jonathan Majors as Kang/Nathaniel Richards, who of course has some convoluted familial relationship with Reed. It might follow that since Kang is being played by an African American, his ancestor/descendant should be, too. That is logical, in a way, although people can be related and look as if they come from entirely different ethnic backgrounds. Feige has promised more diversity in the MCU, which such a casting decision would definitely add, though at the risk of causing the same outrage from so-called "fans" as casting Michael B. Jordan in 4stic did.

It seems as likely that Kang in the MCU has a different origin than he does in the comics, as is often the case. His background is completely muddled, as far as I remember it, so he may not even be Reed's relative at all. Didn't Kang and Doom speculate that they might be related at some point? Who knows what Watts and Feige will come up with after sifting through all of that

Isn’t Kang purple and green? We have had enough failures with this franchise I Hope the MCU don’t go woke and screw this casting up. They MUST top all previous F4 films by having not only a comic book accurate appearance but get the best actors regardless of race. Is that too much to ask for? You want a diverse team make your own up.

Edit: do a comics accurate Fantastic four first like they just did with Spidey then after that is gone and retired hell go and do all the different races F4 you want. Just get it right first and experiment with the multiverses after. I’m a POC but I prefer my comic book and video game adaptations to be accurate to the source material. So if they make TChalla white or Asian I would be equally up in arms about it