Old MCU Fantastic Four Discussion Thread

[Eddie Dean]

Tim Heidecker - Doctor Doom

 

[Fallen]

Peyton Reed's Fantastic 4

Reed Richards- Oscar Isaac

Sue Storm- Blake Lively

Johnny- Colin Ford

Ben- Joel Edgerton

Ford will play Steve Danvers (Carol's brother) in Captain Marvel.

 

[Web-Head]

Ford will play Steve Danvers (Carol's brother) in Captain Marvel.

He's obviously playing the sibling to the wrong Marvel character

Seriously though, not sure how I missed that

 

[Boom]

Hugo Weaving WAS a voice actor; he'd voiced the stepfather dog in both Babe films before his big break as Agent Smith in the Matrix.
As far as I know, Weaving dubbed all of V' s dialogue because the mask didn't have a mic. He definitely dubbed scenes by James Purefoy and a stunt double. I don't know why you'd be dead set on a normal TV actor who's never done voice acting for a role like that.

I don't doubt that Weaving had to re-dub his lines in V for Vendetta (just as I'm sure Tom Hardy had to re-dub his lines in TDKR), but that falls under ADR which is a routine procedure for films. If you consider dubbing to be "voice acting," then pretty much any actor who has ever worked on a major motion picture or television show is a voice actor just by virtue of having familiarity with the ADR process.

If you don't like my suggestion, that's perfectly fine. I even made a point of saying he might be too unknown for the role anyway, as I expect Feige will go for a big name with this character. But I don't subscribe to the idea that Doctor Doom has to be portrayed through a combination of body double and voice actor because they'll otherwise keep showing his face if they hired a big-name actor to perform both tasks. I frankly don't share that concern at all.

 

[MasterCat]

I don't doubt that Weaving had to re-dub his lines in V for Vendetta (just as I'm sure Tom Hardy had to re-dub his lines in TDKR), but that falls under ADR which is a routine procedure for films.

OK, true enough.

 

[Crimz]

An out of the box one for Reed I saw on twitter is Chris Pine

But I doubt that would ever happen with him being Steve Trevor in Wonder Woman.

 

[terry78]

I wouldn't care in the sense that he could pull off the role, but he's pretty much Steve Trevor who could very well come back again via magic in future DC flicks.

 

[David H.]

An out of the box one for Reed I saw on twitter is Chris Pine

Marvel needs to collect Chrises like Thanos does infinity stones.

 

[Moridin]

Peyton Reed's Fantastic 4

 

[MasterCat]

Peyton Reed's Fantastic Four, starring Peyton List and some guy as Reed Richards.

 

[Marvel united]

An out of the box one for Reed I saw on twitter is Chris Pine

But I doubt that would ever happen with him being Steve Trevor in Wonder Woman.

Oooh, that could work! Lawrence Fishburne is Perry White and he's Goliath in the MCU so it can easily work. DC missed their chance to scoop him up for Green Lantern - Marvel can get him as Reed.

 

[Detective Conan]

An out of the box one for Reed I saw on twitter is Chris Pine

But I doubt that would ever happen with him being Steve Trevor in Wonder Woman.

This isn’t the perfect analogy but Josh Brolin played two different comic book characters in the same year for Marvel and Fox so you never know.

Though a fourth white guy named Chris cast in another superhero role would continue on the running joke that “Marvel just casts white guys named Chris” as their protagonists.

 

[MasterCat]

Though a fourth white guy named Chris cast in another superhero continue on the running joke that “Marvel just casts white guys named Chris” as their protagonists.

Dev Patel, man. He'd be at least 31 by the time they start filming and Reed being half-Indian is a pretty smooth race lift when his mom is a nonentity.

 

[Marvel united]

Ehhh, I don't see the need for a race lift on Reed

 

[Crimz]

Dev Patel, man. He'd be at least 31 by the time they start filming and Reed being half-Indian is a pretty smooth race lift when his mom is a nonentity.

I just think he's too young. Reed should be in his mid 30s at the lowest and mid 40s at the highest for the beginning of the franchise.
Though I definitely think Reed being of a different race/ethnicity would be cool and Reed's should be an open casting to all races and ethnicity. You just need a middle aged guy with graying sides and I'm good.

Right now Oscar Isaac is my first choice for Reed.

Ehhh, I don't see the need for a race lift on Reed

The MCU ain't very diverse and the casting for Reed doesn't need to be with the intention of changing his race. It just needs to be open to all and if the best fit happens to be someone of a different race or ethnicity to comic Reed then that's ok.
For me the only one who has to stay the same is Ben, he has to be Jewish as that is integral to the character. Seth Rogen is still my top choice to play him.

 

[Dark Raven]

Dev Patel, man. He'd be at least 31 by the time they start filming and Reed being half-Indian is a pretty smooth race lift when his mom is a nonentity.

He would not be a good choice. As I've said before, we don't need another nerdy turn for Reed who seems like he came out of the Big Bang Theory or Scorpion.

I do like the idea of Chris Pine for Reed though, as I think he needs more of the Captain Kirk bravado and command abilities. A combination of Kirk and Spock would be the ideal template for Reed Richards.

 

[MasterCat]

The problem is that all these suggestions will be over 40, which would ruin Sue because they're unlikely to allow a 23-year-old actress to be in a relationship with a man that old.

 

[Crimz]

The problem is that all these suggestions will be over 40, which would ruin Sue because they're unlikely to allow a 23-year-old actress to be in a relationship with a man that old.

She shouldn't be 23. That's Johnny and Peter Parker's age bracket. Sue should at least be 28 and at most 35 at the beginning of the films.

 

[Marvel united]

The MCU ain't very diverse and the casting for Reed doesn't need to be with the intention of changing his race. It just needs to be open to all and if the best fit happens to be someone of a different race or ethnicity to comic Reed then that's ok.
For me the only one who has to stay the same is Ben, he has to be Jewish as that is integral to the character. Seth Rogen is still my top choice to play him.

Define "best actor"? The best actor for the role would check ALL of the boxes - including Reeds original race. The MCU doesn't have to change the Fantastic Four to be diverse, there are still plenty of diverse characters from the comics. The last thing Marvel will want is causing another controversy and uproar over the casting, just stick to the comics and give us a faithful adaptation for once.

 

[MasterCat]

She shouldn't be 23. That's Johnny and Peter Parker's age bracket. Sue should at least be 28 and at most 35 at the beginning of the films.

Jessica Alba and Chris Evans were both 23 in Fantastic 4.
I already have the Ant-Man franchise for seeing a woman in her mid or late 30s get superpowers. If the new F4 isn't young and bright, I won't pay money to see it unless it stars an accurate Doctor Doom.

 

[Marvel united]

23 is wayyy too young for Sue. She would be Tom Holland's peer. And 35 is too old for Sue

 

[Crimz]

Define "best actor"? The best actor for the role would check ALL of the boxes - including Reeds original race. The MCU doesn't have to change the Fantastic Four to be diverse, there are still plenty of diverse characters from the comics. The last thing Marvel will want is causing another controversy and uproar over the casting, just stick to the comics and give us a faithful adaptation for once.

Reed's race isn't integral to the character at all, any race could play him. The best actor is someone who embody's Reed's personality and can perform him believably, his race doesn't have to be white.
There are going to be some people complaining as there always are, but the FF frankly aren't popular enough to cause major controversy over this. Those who won't watch because of it weren't going to watch the film anyway. There is no problem.

 

[MasterCat]

Define "best actor"? The best actor for the role would check ALL of the boxes - including Reeds original race. The MCU doesn't have to change the Fantastic Four to be diverse, there are still plenty of diverse characters from the comics. The last thing Marvel will want is causing another controversy and uproar over the casting, just stick to the comics and give us a faithful adaptation for once.

I'd literally bet money that the MCU won't have an Indian hero by 2028 unless there's a race lift. I'd also put money on there not being a Latino with superpowers when Kamala Khan appears, with the same caveat.
"Diversity" is suspiciously specific.

 

[MasterCat]

23 is wayyy too young for Sue. She would be Tom Holland's peer.

It worked before. I don't think Marvel Studios should cede advantages to the 2005 version.

 

[Crimz]

Jessica Alba and Chris Evans were both 23 in Fantastic 4.
I already have the Ant-Man franchise for seeing a woman in her mid or late 30s get superpowers. If the new F4 isn't young and bright, I won't pay money to see it unless it stars an accurate Doctor Doom.

And Jessica Alba was terrible and 30 is not old at all.
That age would make her younger than Spider-Man by the time FF get a film.... The guy who see's her as a big sister. That is too young for her and should be Johnny's age as he is Spider-Man's contemporary. Sue needs to be older than Johnny by at least 5 years as she is his big sister who practically raised him when their mother died and father went to jail.
Making her too young would remove the motherly aspect of the character and erase her experience that only comes with age. No one believed for one minute that Alba was a scientist.

Jessica Alba was a horrible Sue in everything except looks, until the second film with the terrifying contacts and wig where she even lost that.