Old MCU Fantastic Four Discussion Thread

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We need Chris Evans' Cap in this and to share a scene with the new Johnny Storm and say "You know what? You remind me a bit of myself when I was younger" :oldrazz:

If Johnny Storm tosses fireballs and says "I can do this all day", then that's the chance for Evans to get his line in about Johnny reminding him of himself.
 
In terms of Doctor Doom, I'd like to see something reminiscent to Alex Ross' design.

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I also quite like the third mask in the bottom row of this fan art.

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I hope they create real, metal armor for him and give him a timeless, classic look. I hope they don't try to give him a futuristic look.

The armor should look like it could have come from the middle ages with the classic, distinct face-piece.
 
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I hope they create real, metal armor for him and give him a timeless, classic look. I hope they don't try to give him a futuristic look.

The armor should look like it could have come from the middle ages with the classic, distinct face-piece.

That's exactly why I don't want him building his armour out of the pieces of the Ultron bots in Sokovia. Doom needs to build his own armour himself without the need for any other scraps.

He shouldn't get any technology from Stark. That should be beneath him.
 
That's exactly why I don't want him building his armour out of the pieces of the Ultron bots in Sokovia. Doom needs to build his own armour himself without the need for any other scraps.

He shouldn't get any technology from Stark. That should be beneath him.

:up: Absolutely agree.
 
That's exactly why I don't want him building his armour out of the pieces of the Ultron bots in Sokovia. Doom needs to build his own armour himself without the need for any other scraps.

He shouldn't get any technology from Stark. That should be beneath him.
I don't think anyone was talking about his armor on basis of Ultron bots, but of the Ultron bots serving as ressources for the Doombots.
I as k once again: If they go the route and have a connection between Sokovia and Latveria, should Doom just ignore Vibranium and high tech robots and AI lying around in the rubble or should he use the opportunity to use the vibranium for his own needs? It is not a matter of pride but of availability. There's not much vibranium lying around outside of Wakanda.

And developing his own AI from scratch? Totally doable, but it takes time. Improving the flawed Stark tech to rub it in Iron Man's face that Doom is the superior engineer? Sounds more like him than neglecting the fact that there a resources available. Doom in the past has taken shortcuts if the opportunity was there.

I mean, sure, Doom could have gone the long way to gain control over the UN and become Emperor of the world, he still decided to use Purple Man's powers even if it wasn't a power inherently possesed by him.
 
Maybe the Fantasticar will be based on Howard Stark's flying car schematics and Tony will lease all the other tech to Reed Richards.
 
Maybe the Fantasticar will be based on Howard Stark's flying car schematics and Tony will lease all the other tech to Reed Richards.
if Stark's hovercar crash landed in Reed's backyard and one would want to paint Reed as a more shady, power thirsty charcter who wants to use the Fantasticar for dubious purposes, that allegoryy might make sense
 
Starting to think you need to introduce the F4 in another film before they get their solo film, or at least a couple of them.

I think it could work great if Reed and Sue showed up in Dr Strange somehow or even Guardians 3.

Personally hope Strange and Reed Richards knew each other prior somehow.
This was my idea in the other thread

"What about a young Reed showing up in the 90's in captain marvel? I'd imagine he would be called on to deal with the alien stuff.

Or

If they wanted, this would be a better place to have an established FF who go off to wherever and eventually end up in modern day than the 60's. You could use this to build excitement towards their solo film à la Spidey in civil war"
 
Starting to think you need to introduce the F4 in another film before they get their solo film, or at least a couple of them.

I think it could work great if Reed and Sue showed up in Dr Strange somehow or even Guardians 3.

Personally hope Strange and Reed Richards knew each other prior somehow.

Wouldn't even need the whole team to show up

would have been kind of cool if Reed Richards showed up in Ant-man

maybe a young Reed Richards with a older Hank Pym
 
They should go old world with Latvia

They seem to be going with a technically advanced county with Wakanda in Black Panther

Kevin Feige said he wanted to take us places we havn't been before

make Latvia old world , give it kind of a 1600's look , I mean they can still have modern technology and stuff , but just place looks like it hasn't changed in 500 years

There are places in Germany that just looks amazing

Give Dr Doom a 16th Century Castle with Stark level technology , security , etc

where it could be like Winter time , like all the time...................lol

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They should go old world with Latvia

They seem to be going with a technically advanced county with Wakanda in Black Panther

Kevin Feige said he wanted to take us places we havn't been before

make Latvia old world , give it kind of a 1600's look , I mean they can still have modern technology and stuff , bust just place the place look like it hasn't changed in 500 years

There are places in Germany that just looks amazing

Give Dr Doom a 16th Century Castle with Stark level technology , security , etc

where it could be like Winter time , like all the time...................lol

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Latveria, not Latvia. Latvia exists in the real world near Russia, Estonia and Lithuania.

I agree though that it should be old world. Make it a combination of Germany and Romania. Film it like Wonder Woman where they shot in different locations and combined it to create Themyscira.
 
Latveria, not Latvia. Latvia exists in the real world near Russia, Estonia and Lithuania.

I agree though that it should be old world. Make it a combination of Germany and Romania. Film it like Wonder Woman where they shot in different locations and combined it to create Themyscira.

opps , it auto-corrected me , I didn't even notice
 
Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic- Billy Crudup
Sue Storm/Invisible Woman- Blake Lively
Johnny Storm/Human Torch- Dave Franco
Ben Grimm/The Thing- Jensen Ackles
Victor Von Doom/Doctor Doom- Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
Namor The Sub-Mariner- Jonathan Rhys Meyers
Mole Man- Danny DeVito
Silver Surfer- Zachary Quinto (CGI/voice)
 
Whatever location they used Hannibal is my ideal Castle Doom.

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And Mads was my ideal Doom but...
 
Starting to think you need to introduce the F4 in another film before they get their solo film, or at least a couple of them.

I think it could work great if Reed and Sue showed up in Dr Strange somehow or even Guardians 3.

Personally hope Strange and Reed Richards knew each other prior somehow.
I'd love them to solo in other films before the team film. They all have something to contribute individually (even if only small roles) and could be matched up with other Phase IV MCU films coming out.
 
A lot of you guys are on the right track for Doom.

A practical, timeless costume. A castle and surrounding city straight out of the 1600's. Really lean into what makes Dr. Doom one of the best villains in all of fiction.
 
I think it would be great for our initial view of Doom to be in televised war footage. Have WHiH report the stunning news that rebel forces have seized control of the government of Latveria, the jewel of the Balkans. Then show Victor striding confidently across a war zone, bombs falling all around him as he leads his forces into the walled capital.
 
I think it would be great for our initial view of Doom to be in televised war footage. Have WHiH report the stunning news that rebel forces have seized control of the government of Latveria, the jewel of the Balkans. Then show Victor striding confidently across a war zone, bombs falling all around him as he leads his forces into the walled capital.

That sounds really good! Great way to show him off early doors.
 
Eh, Doomstadt should look like an old eastern European city, but it shouldn't be literally filled with 16th century peasants. Let it be an actual modern city, for a certain "more functional than the typical crazy dictator" sense of 'modern'.
 
I hope Doom gets his rightful place in film with people who've never seen him before voting for him in top CBM villain or even film villain stakes.
 
I'd cast Matt Smith for Reed. He'd be in his mid-thirties by the time of phase 4 and that's good for a franchise.

He's already good with the technobabble and over the head intelligence talk. And he can do comedy.

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For Sue I'd cast Heather Lind
 
I'd cast Matt Smith for Reed. He'd be in his mid-thirties by the time of phase 4 and that's good for a franchise.

He's already good with the technobabble and over the head intelligence talk. And he can do comedy.

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For Sue I'd cast Heather Lind

Smith would be terrible for Reed and would just perpetuate the nerdy misconception that people have of the character.
 
I'm convinced that the best and safest choice for Reed is John Krasinski.

Not sure about Sue, but Blake Lively seems like the most popular candidate.

As for Johnny, I think Marvel should grab Harry Styles before he becomes too expensive for them (Lol jk, nothing is too expensive for Disney). He was pretty good in Dunkirk and he's around Holland's age.

This is just my personal wish, but as a fan of The Leftovers, I wish they'd cast Justin Theroux as Doctor Doom. They need a really good actor to play the role, especially if he's going to be the major villain post Avengers 4.
 
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