Our "Space Princess": David Corenswet IS Clark Kent/Superman!

[SupermansPal]

I can actually see Gunn pushing for something more similar to Welling's build to be honest.

More farmboy, less fitness bro physique would be ideal.

 

[jetage]

I think it is important to look at the fact that David in every picture, is covered up. He is in the bulking stage at this point, and it putting on size, which in the next week, two or more, will then be narrowed down. The trainer is very famous for posting his clients, the male ones, shirtless. The fact that he did not post David shirtless at this point is telling. Sometime soon, David will start to lean out, and look much more muscular, and traditional. Some what akin to C Hemsworth or C Evans. The fact that he is so covered up in all of the shots we have seen him so far, means they don't want a clear view of his physique. What was the need for the latest pictures for him to be so covered, it is LA, it it is fall but not freezing. The latest shots especially, there really was no need to be that covered up, unless that is not the final product. Though, pointers, his legs look great, since so many people skip that, they do like legs to launch oneself into the air.

The bulky look he has now probably will dissipate either before or after Christmas, since a final fitting of the suit will need to be done. They overly bulky look is generally reserved for villains, as in Tom Hardy in Batman. It is not a look reserved for Superheroes. Beside we had a Superman who needed a girdle in G Reeves, we don't need one with Corenswet.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

More farmboy, less fitness bro physique would be ideal.

I think we'll get something in the middle, which is reasonable, IMO.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I long for the day male leads in superhero movies can just get moderately athletic and then we all move on with our lives.

 

[elgaz]

I long for the day male leads in superhero movies can just get moderately athletic and then we all move on with our lives.

It's that comic book aesthetic. Some audiences seem to find it hard to buy a superhero who could be a normal, everyday size - never mind remotely out of shape. Even Spiderman - though not overly muscular - still has to look quite athletic. The one time Maguire put on a bit of weight in Spiderman 3 he got called fat by online trolls, even though he was far from it.

But yeah, it would be nice if it was more about the performance than the skintight costumes. Anthony Starr is riveting as Homelander in The Boys, basically an evil version of Superman - but on the very odd occasion that he's been shown without the padded muscle suit, it's easy to forget that he's actually quite slim and not that big. But it doesn't matter one iota as he's so good in the role.

 

[Alien Anal]

Just watching Blue Eye Samurai and it got me thinking about Clark wearing tinted glasses to hide his blue eyes. Nothing extreme like daredevil but something could at least help with the disguise. Would it be too much of a change?

 

[Dr.]

It's that comic book aesthetic. Some audiences seem to find it hard to buy a superhero who could be a normal, everyday size - never mind remotely out of shape. Even Spiderman - though not overly muscular - still has to look quite athletic...

According to Fake Science of Superhero™ experts, Kryptonian superstrength isn’t a function of physical size. Thus, Supergirl can bench press an aircraft carrier as easily as Superman. But by now, Supes is traditionally/canonically represented as big, tall and muscular. So just as fans might complain about any slight deviations from the classic costume (and they do ), they’d surely complain about a Superman with an uncharacteristically slender physique. Actors must hit the gym and get fitted for their six-pack abs prosthetics. It is what it is.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Just watching Blue Eye Samurai and it got me thinking about Clark wearing tinted glasses to hide his blue eyes. Nothing extreme like daredevil but something could at least help with the disguise. Would it be too much of a change?

Waid actually explored this in Superman: Birthright. (You never read that comic? It's the bestest! lol) But yeah, I'd be fine with it provided that David's natural eye color isn't enhanced in the process.

 

[B]

Waid actually explored this in Superman: Birthright. (You never read that comic? It's the bestest! lol) But yeah, I'd be fine with it provided that David's natural eye color isn't enhanced in the process.

This was always my favourite sort of logical reasoning as to how glasses even becomes an idea for Clark to wear.

 

[GreenKToo]

I had a comic when I was a kid, that had clark wearing normal glasses.
He melted the lenses in them when using his x-ray vision, so he got some glass shards from his crashed ship, and made his own lenses that could withstand his heat and x-ray vision.

 

[SupermansPal]

I had a comic when I was a kid, that had clark wearing normal glasses.
He melted the lenses in them when using his x-ray vision, so he got some glass shards from his crashed ship, and made his own lenses that could withstand his heat and x-ray vision.

That’s from Secret Origin, I think.

At least the part of the lenses being part of his ship was for sure used there.

 

[Alien Anal]

Waid actually explored this in Superman: Birthright. (You never read that comic? It's the bestest! lol) But yeah, I'd be fine with it provided that David's natural eye color isn't enhanced in the process.

Oh nice, yeahp I have read it but a long time ago. Getting old.

 

[Dr.]

Waid actually explored this in Superman: Birthright. (You never read that comic? It's the bestest! lol) But yeah, I'd be fine with it provided that David's natural eye color isn't enhanced in the process.

Ma mentions that Clark gets compliments about his eyes. There’s no suggestion, however, that they look particularly abnormal. So the notion that tinted glasses would materially enhance the disguise by turning conventionally brighter blue into slightly duller blue strikes me as implausible — and not worth the exposition.

OTOH, it might be interesting if Superman’s eyes weren’t just blue but, rather, a striking shade of brilliant turquoise (or similar hue). I.e., they’d be so unusual and distracting (mesmerizing?) as to constitute a convincing element of difference between the alter egos. The downside: uncannily blue eyes would be a constant reminder that Supes is alien. Of course, he is an alien. The fantastical superpowers are a clear indication of that. But traditionally, Superman at least looks like a normal human.

 

[GreenKToo]

That’s from Secret Origin, I think.

At least the part of the lenses being part of his ship was for sure used there.

Could be. It was like 30 years ago.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Ma mentions that Clark gets compliments about his eyes. There’s no suggestion, however, that they look particularly abnormal. So the notion that tinted glasses would materially enhance the disguise by turning conventionally brighter blue into slightly duller blue strikes me as implausible — and not worth the exposition.

OTOH, it might be interesting if Superman’s eyes weren’t just blue but, rather, a striking shade of brilliant turquoise (or similar hue). I.e., they’d be so unusual and distracting (mesmerizing?) as to constitute a convincing element of difference between the alter egos. The downside: uncannily blue eyes would be a constant reminder that Supes is alien. Of course, he is an alien. The fantastical superpowers are a clear indication of that. But traditionally, Superman at least looks like a normal human.

Well, she does say that his blue eye color is "unlike anything on this Earth," so it's implied that they're unique.

I'm sure there are visual techniques that can be used to make David's natural blue eyes "pop," so to speak. Whichever way they go, I'd just prefer that they achieve that without using CGI or colored eye contacts.

Yeah, I've heard the "alien eyes" complaint before. However, Clark's eye color is only one of his physical characteristics. And it's not impossible for regular humans to have unusual eye color, anyway. The actress Meg Foster, for instance, is renowned for having "otherworldly" pale blue eyes. So, it's not an issue for me, personally. That said, David's eyes are sufficiently blue, IMO. Work with what you have.

 

[B]

Well, she does say that his blue eye color is "unlike anything on this Earth," so it's implied that they're unique.

I'm sure there are visual techniques that can be used to make David's natural blue eyes "pop," so to speak. Whichever way they go, I'd just prefer that they achieve that without using CGI or colored eye contacts.

Yeah, I've heard the "alien eyes" complaint before. However, Clark's eye color is only one of his physical characteristics. And it's not impossible for regular humans to have unusual eye color, anyway. The actress Meg Foster, for instance, is renowned for having "otherworldly" pale blue eyes. So, it's not an issue for me, personally. That said, David's eyes are sufficiently blue, IMO. Work with what you have.

They could go the Underworld sort of route & use that sort of technique to make his eyes a little more uniquely blue when he's not wearing glasses to give the illusion that they actually do dull down the colour somehow.

I wouldn't go quite as far/as bright as they did with the Underworld movies though, just make them stand out a little more as Superman.

 

[jetage]

Being an actor can make one famous, but I do wonder if David Corenswet has any idea what might be coming. He was really an unknown to most people(except on this board) before being cast, and he is already starting to get the A list following. He has paparazzi sneaking pictures of him, with simple pictures of him getting buzz all around the internet, and that really is only the beginning. Once this film is ready to debut, he should be on late night tv, morning tv, magazines, interviews and all. I hope in the US, he gets to host SNL, he has the background and the talent for it. He does seem level headed, so he should be ok, but his life is really about to change.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

They could go the Underworld sort of route & use that sort of technique to make his eyes a little more uniquely blue when he's not wearing glasses to give the illusion that they actually do dull down the colour somehow.

I wouldn't go quite as far/as bright as they did with the Underworld movies though, just make them stand out a little more as Superman.

Honestly, that looks way too artificial to me. I'm no visual effects specialist, but I think the best way to make David's eye color "pop" (in a fairly realistic way) is to experiment with the film's overall color palette.

 

[Alien Anal]

Did a face swap to make it more clear.

 

[B]

Honestly, that looks way too artificial to me. I'm no visual effects specialist, but I think the best way to make David's eye color "pop" (in a fairly realistic way) is to experiment with the film's overall color palette.

Oh I agree, it looks too fantastical for my liking in Underworld, I mean it's fine for those films & fits their movies, but it's not what I'd want for this.

It would have to be much more subtle, while at the same time visible enough to make going to the trouble of doing it, worth it.

 

[Dr.]

Oh I agree, it looks too fantastical for my liking in Underworld, I mean it's fine for those films & fits their movies, but it's not what I'd want for this.

It would have to be much more subtle, while at the same time visible enough to make going to the trouble of doing it, worth it.

John Billingsley wore deep blue contacts to play Phlox on Enterprise.

But though distinctive, his eyes didn’t look freakishly abnormal. Indeed, from some angles and lighting, they almost appeared “conventionally” blue. So you could try something like that for Superman: conspicuous blue as Supes and dull blue, brown or hazel as CK (because the specs mute the color). Now, the difference probably wouldn't be dramatic enough to boost the plausibility of the disguise. But it might make for an interesting embellishment.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Someone post the grant Morrison quote about how children don’t wonder who puts gas in the Batmobile

 

[Dr.]

Someone post the grant Morrison quote about how children don’t wonder who puts gas in the Batmobile

I think it’s pretty normal for invested fans to geek out amongst themselves about the minutia of the fantasy characters and stories they follow. But such playful musings aren’t a DEMAND that they be included in any particular narrative. And with all due respect to Mr. Morrison, suggesting as much is hyperbolic nonsense.

Moreover… the current discussion about Supes’ eye color and a more practical utility for the eyeglasses was underscored by… citing panels from a comic! — from Superman: Birthright. So if Morrison has an issue with “explaining fantasy,” he might take it up with Waid. For that matter, he also could also go to the source and criticize Seigel and Shuster. On the very first page of Action Comics #1 is the following:

(Granted, the scientific explanation is bogus. But it still represents an in-universe “explanation” of fantasy.)

 

[SupermansPal]

Truthfully, I think it’s just a fool’s errand trying to give everything in Superman an “in-universe explanation”, it’s a character that inherently requires suspension of disbelief no matter how many hoops you jump through.

 

[Eddie Dean]

It's about an alien from another planet who can fly, I can sustain my disbelief that the Clark Kent disguise works.