out run flash

[Tropico]

^^^^WTF?! This is just as random as a puppet shouting "Matt Damon" in a puppet movie!!

 

[LexCorp]

^^^^WTF?! This is just as random as a puppet shouting "Matt Damon" in a puppet movie!!

Well someone has to keep the pointless threads filled with some fun.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Didn't Barry essentialy go back in time and became the lightning bolt that hit his younger self? I think I read that somewhere.

yes. all the former speedsters are part of the speedforce that give them their powers

quicksilver uses an advanced form of his powers (gained through terrigan mists) to duplicate himself now. plus his touch gives people powers as he's one with those mist-crystal-things... yes...
ahem. quicksilver's no longer a speedster was my point but i thought at his height he could only travel at about speed of sound which sucks for a speedster

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He could travel well over the speed of sound but still nowhere near any of the Flashes, who all could at least meet the speed of light at the height of their respective powers.

 

[Varient]

who can out run flash racing. NO FLYING

(chuckle)

Based on Canon - In the Marvel Universe after a couple of hours,.. anyone faster than a junior high track star could beat him in a race.


LOL.

 

[Cyclops]

Even sooner than that, really. Flash's powers leave him immediately when he enters the MU, right?

 

[Stealth_Prime]

Didn't Barry essentialy go back in time and became the lightning bolt that hit his younger self? I think I read that somewhere.

Secret Origins Annual # 3.
I agree, but you know those knuckle heads behind the pen....they hold the universe in the hand, and like any other person, they become corrupt with overwelming possibilities and alter the usual state of what is meant to be (Barry being the lightening bolt)

What's that line?
-Absolute power corrupts Absolutely.

Lets hear it for the writers and editors who don't have a clue as to how to leave a good explanation (if you can call it that) alone.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Even without the time gem The Runner could move very far beyond the speed of light. Both Northstar and Makkari were much faster than Quicksilver ever was. Although it has never been shown Hyperion and Gladiator can also presumably run at great speed.

 

[Stealth_Prime]

Even without the time gem The Runner could move very far beyond the speed of light. Both Northstar and Makkari were much faster than Quicksilver ever was. Although it has never been shown Hyperion and Gladiator can also presumably run at great speed.

Didn't they show Gladiator's speed when he went up against Thor (Eric--when The real thor was hidden deep within Eric?)
or was that X-Men?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Judging speed from fights is pretty unreliable. Gladiator and Hyperion are supposed to have super-speed, but the real Thor, who doesn't have super-speed, kicked their asses pretty much every time they fought. Physically kicked their asses, too; he didn't just make up the difference with lightning strikes or anything logical or strategic like that.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Secret Origins Annual # 3.
I agree, but you know those knuckle heads behind the pen....they hold the universe in the hand, and like any other person, they become corrupt with overwelming possibilities and alter the usual state of what is meant to be (Barry being the lightening bolt)

What's that line?
-Absolute power corrupts Absolutely.

Lets hear it for the writers and editors who don't have a clue as to how to leave a good explanation (if you can call it that) alone.

Actually the original origin wasnt explained too well. i prefer the idea he was his own power source. it fits in with the whole time travelling theme flash comics had.



guys, i dont understand the "flash enters marvel universe, flash loses powers" claim. havnt their been CANON match-ups between DC characters and Marvel?

 

[Stealth_Prime]

Actually the original origin wasnt explained too well. i prefer the idea he was his own power source. it fits in with the whole time travelling theme flash comics had.



guys, i dont understand the "flash enters marvel universe, flash loses powers" claim. havnt their been CANON match-ups between DC characters and Marvel?

Good point,

I think there was one such story where JLA and Avengers tangled, but during the 70s lineup....I don't know what happened...all I know is that Liefield bought the original draft/sketches when he was still the 90s thing-in.

Besides, the writers probably created that 'limitation' on the Flash to keep him from whipping butt throughout the whole Marvel universe. you know he could have sucked the air out of Thor and Marvels other big hitters. And when it comes to speed....hehehehe
he would have won before everyone knew it was time to start.

 

[MJOILNIR]

The runner can run past lightspeed into warp speed as can Makkari and probably fast forward. The runner once ran across the galaxy faster than moondragon could finish a startled "eikk" just to see what it was.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

^wow, good call. u win.lol

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Good point,

I think there was one such story where JLA and Avengers tangled, but during the 70s lineup....I don't know what happened...all I know is that Liefield bought the original draft/sketches when he was still the 90s thing-in.

Besides, the writers probably created that 'limitation' on the Flash to keep him from whipping butt throughout the whole Marvel universe. you know he could have sucked the air out of Thor and Marvels other big hitters. And when it comes to speed....hehehehe
he would have won before everyone knew it was time to start.

They did just come up with that explanation to keep the Flash from being too powerful in JLA/Avengers. I don't know if there have been other Flash crossovers with the Marvel universe before, but he's visited lots of other dimensions and they've all had a Speed Force. The fact that Marvel lacks one is obviously a plot device to keep him from using his extreme super-speed in the relatively slower (for the most part) Marvel universe.

However, that Thor bit wouldn't work. Thor can survive in space without breathing, so I doubt the Flash vacuuming the air away from him would do much. The Flash could easily kick Thor's ass in other ways with his full Speed Force powers intact, though.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

I dont belive that any Marvel Universe hero can out race the Flash.Superman is the only one who can perform such a feat.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I dont belive that any Marvel Universe hero can out race the Flash.Superman is the only one who can perform such a feat.

Your world must be interesting.

 

[Stealth_Prime]

They did just come up with that explanation to keep the Flash from being too powerful in JLA/Avengers. I don't know if there have been other Flash crossovers with the Marvel universe before, but he's visited lots of other dimensions and they've all had a Speed Force. The fact that Marvel lacks one is obviously a plot device to keep him from using his extreme super-speed in the relatively slower (for the most part) Marvel universe.

However, that Thor bit wouldn't work. Thor can survive in space without breathing, so I doubt the Flash vacuuming the air away from him would do much. The Flash could easily kick Thor's ass in other ways with his full Speed Force powers intact, though.

For real? Okay...cool, I retract that statement then....but you have to admit...Wow! Go Flash.


Okay, now what's going on with Quicksilver...I'm not too clear on his abilities...IS he a speedster, or did he 'mutate'(forgive the phrase)/evolve into other powers.

 

[Stealth_Prime]

I dont belive that any Marvel Universe hero can out race the Flash.Superman is the only one who can perform such a feat.

Sorry, wrong....check out Adventures of Superman # 463
Wally beat Superman, even before the Speed Force happened....For Wally, he had to maintain his speed through consumption of lots, and lots, AND LOTS of food.
while Superman absorbs his energy directly through the sun.
And Wally still won.

 

[hippy fascist]

Well someone has to keep the pointless threads filled with some fun.

This man is a genius up:

 

[MyPokerShirt]

The Flash could easily kick Thor's ass in other ways with his full Speed Force powers intact, though.

really? you rate full power flash above thor??

 

[MyPokerShirt]

For real? Okay...cool, I retract that statement then....but you have to admit...Wow! Go Flash.


Okay, now what's going on with Quicksilver...I'm not too clear on his abilities...IS he a speedster, or did he 'mutate'(forgive the phrase)/evolve into other powers.

i covered this noone listens to me! he lost his powers then with terragan mists can give people powers and essentially duplicate himself by going foward in time, time travel being one of his new powers. he seems to have lost conventional speed though, instead vibrating his molecules for time travel.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

really? you rate full power flash above thor??

I wouldn't rate him above Thor, per se. In an actual fight in a comic, I'm sure Thor would win because everyone expects him to, but on paper the Flash has powers that could neutralize practically anyone. He can drain a person of all their speed, for one thing. No speed = no movement = fight over.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

yknow what? if flash is as fast as light, you're right, i can't think of a way someone could beat him.lmao thats strange. guess it does depend what flash from what era at what speed we're talking about.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd pretty much limit it to Wally for taking down the really powerful people like Thor. Barry was fast as light, but he had no idea the Speed Force existed. It's the SF tricks that make Wally a serious powerhouse. The most Barry could do is throw things at light-speed at Thor, which would hurt him but not really take him down. If Barry punched Thor, it'd probably hurt him more than it would Thor.