Pacific Rim - Part 5

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[Tron Bonne]

Just got back from it. Enjoyed it pretty well. Pretty cool to see mechs and monsters in such high production live action. Story was pretty decent, not exactly amazing writing, but I know Del Toro tends to stick more to archetypes, so I kind of expected that going in.

I have no interest in a sequel, but I wouldn't mind a prequel. I found myself really interested in the idea of a commericalized mech world. Doesn't seem like we'll be getting either, but it'd be cool if some anime company picked up the idea for a show.

 

[Pondslider]

I don't know if Godzilla will be fine, but it is a known commodity whereas Pacific Rim isn't. The 1998 movie was a trainwreck, and it underperformed for its budget, but it still finished top 10 domestically for its year and had the highest opening weekend of the year without the benefit of 3D or IMAX. If you make a good Godzilla movie and market it as an event, I think people will go see it.

 

[Tron Bonne]

In relation to Godzilla:

The first movie suffered from being pretty awful. As pointed out, it did well at first, but it dropped a lot afterward. I think Godzilla, as a brand, has a much bigger net than simply Japan. It's a very iconic and recognizable franchise. I don't know if I'd call it set, but it definitely has a good chance of success, at least better than PR did this go around.

 

[jacobed]

If its good, it'll do very well.

 

[The Guard]

Fun movie. Safe, but fun. Not a huge fan, but an entertaining couple of hours. The writing is mediocre and then some, the dialogue nothing special, and the acting leaves something to be desired from pretty much everyone. The pilot lead was especially annoyingly one note.

The overall concept is good though, and the story works well enough, though it wasn't executed in a particularly compelling fashion. The action is good. Good, but not great. The slow, ponderous movements of the Jaeger's get a tad repetitive after awhile, and it kind of made me wonder why they needed these great fighters if that's all the Jaeger's could do. The Kaiju are well realized visually, and the effects themselves are fantastic.

Overall, I thought it was entertaining, but pretty darn generic. At one point, when Charlie Day as Rick Moranis in GHOSTBUSTERS

Spoiler

drifted with the Kaiju

, there was a shot of the lab, and I was hoping that we were going to find out that the things were manmade to create a kind of worldwide threat/product, but nope, turns out it's just aliens coming from another dimension and wanting to take over our world. Feels like we've seen a lot of it before, honestly.

 

[rayc1971]

I don't know if pacific rim underperforming will effect Godzilla maybe people don't want to see giant monsters anymore?the last monster movie that did will was super 8 and cloverfield I didn't like cloverfield by the way

 

[Hyde]

As far as I can recall Super 8 didn't make THAT much, Cloverfield was only called a big success because it had a budget of like $5 and it made nearly $200m.

 

[Schlosser85]

Cloverfield had a much bigger budget than $5 (??). There are full CGI shots of the monster at various points. It's not like Blair Witch where you don't actually see anything.

 

[Pondslider]

Guillermo Del Toro doesn't draw in a wide audience alone the way J.J. Abrams and other directors might and there are no stars. Cloverfield was marketed very differently and people were talking about it for a long time before it came out because of the initial teaser and the viral marketing. I think a lot of people have no idea what Pacific Rim is really about even now.

 

[Hyde]

It was an exaggeration. Obviously it didn't have a $5 budget but it was considerably low budget for a monster movie ($25m)

 

[Wolfwood]

At one point, when Charlie Day as Rick Moranis in GHOSTBUSTERS

Thank-you! After the movie I told my friend that it was nice to see that Rick Moranis was alive and well in Charlie Day. No one knew what I was talking about, but there were quite a few scenes where he was a dead ringer for Rick.

 

[Hyde]

Guillermo Del Toro doesn't draw in a wide audience alone the way J.J. Abrams and other directors might and there are no stars. Cloverfield was marketed very differently and people were talking about it for a long time before it came out because of the initial teaser and the viral marketing. I think a lot of people have no idea what Pacific Rim is really about even now.

That's because the marketing was awful. This was ripe for viral marketing, yet there was none - a sudden big effort in the week before release doesn't cut it.

IMO one of the reasons MOS and TDKR were so hyped up was because their trailer was released a year in advance, people had loads of time to talk about it. The first trailer came out at Christmas and even then audiences barely knew it was coming. Same with STID. That also underperformed.

 

[BrollySupersj]

I was surprised at how much Charlie Day's character was used. He was an an integral part of the story. I didn't think he would be. But it was all good by me, he played the scientist role well.

 

[Schlosser85]

I thought Star Trek Into Darkness got a lot of trailers and TV spots.

 

[Hyde]

Yeah but that was quite late in the game, they only had a few months to mass market this movie. It didn't help that the trailers were mediocre

 

[ShadowBoxer]

So is the 3D worth the extra money? Surprisingly, most if the theaters in my area have very few 3D showings and a ton of 2D showings. I plan to see this tonight since its getting good word of mouth.

 

[Man in the Suit]

I thought Star Trek Into Darkness got a lot of trailers and TV spots.

It did. Saw a bunch of spots and the trailer a bunch of times at the theater.

Weird thing with PAC RIM was I never saw a trailer at the theater until The Lone Ranger and that one had positive reception; heard people saying they want to see it. Some terrible 45-second trailer played before Man of Steel, but it was something where the screen started shrinking and the Movie Trailer Guy was like "YOU NEED TO SEE THIS ON A BIG SCREEN!" *shows shot of kaiju* Everybody in the theater seemed like "Okay..."

 

[GremlinZilla89]

The characters are getting too much hate.

They are all pretty well done. Hunnam is especially getting too much hate. Is his character fresh and original? No, not really. But at the same time he kind of is. At least his execution.
He isn't the brooding, moody, reluctant, in-it-for-himself-screw-everyone-else guy. It took all of two seconds for him to be convinced to be a pilot again. It wasn't drawn out or exaggerated. "You wanna die behind a wall or in a Jaeger?" That was all it took. He doesn't have an attitude problem. He's positive and supportive. Even when he questions orders, it doesn't come from being a smart-ass rebel, it comes from him feeling what is right is right.

 

[Liam_H]

So is the 3D worth the extra money? Surprisingly, most if the theaters in my area have very few 3D showings and a ton of 2D showings. I plan to see this tonight since its getting good word of mouth.

Its a gamble. If it was IMAX 3D then I would say definitely. But with regular 3D you run the risk of it being too dark if it isn't lit correctly thus leading to scenes in the water being darker than its suppose to be. With 2D you'll for sure see things a lot clearer.

 

[Schlosser85]

Yea, the whole brooding bad boy can be overdone.

 

[dark_b]

go Del Toro go. thats why i like PR .

We are stuck in a movie phase where our heroes are accidental heroes, or heroes by destiny and not through any quality they possess.
This is old fashioned.
This is definitely old fashioned. Can you talk about that, the kind of heroism you wanted to have in this movie?
I really wanted it to be a very complicated movie that played very simple. I wanted to make an adventure movie where the sentiments of the characters are there, but they’re not the main obstacle to overcome. I told Charlie Hunnam when he came on, ‘I know actors like complex characters, but Raleigh has very few moving parts.’ He’s really a guy who wants to do good, he’s just afraid to trust someone else and have them die on him because he’ll feel it, like he did when his brother went. You better put spoilers here! But I said, that’s him. When he finds somebody he trusts he’s ready to be good. He’s not Hamlet, wondering if he can do it. I said to Rinko, ‘The two characters need to trust each other.’ You literally see Rinko lose her heart when she’s a child - she has a red object - and then the blue memory stains her hair. She’s carrying it with her. Then when they come together they become one inside the robot.
It’s a simple, earnest heroism. It’s not jingoistic, it’s not ideological, it’s purely humanistic. It’s about the world saving the world. I really needed characters who have good cores. Even the ******* in the movie, the guy you’re meant to hate, he’s a good guy.
Every human in the movie is a good guy. Even - spoiler - the one character in the movie who does get eaten by a kaiju, you still like him too. He’s not a horrible guy, he’s just himself.



guess this is another spoiler, but you don’t end on a kiss. Why?
When I was working on the movie we had three or four different versions of the relationship between Charlie and Rinko because I wanted to see if I could make a story about two people liking each other without having to end in a kiss. So when I shot the ending we shot three versions. I’ve never done this before, but instinctively I thought we should do three versions. We did one version where they kiss and it almost felt weird. They’re good friends, they’re pals, good colleagues




yeah yeah its Devin faraci. lets hate him next week ok?
http://badassdigest.com/2013/07/12/...llermo-del-toro-gets-spoilery-on-pacific-rim/

 

[terry78]

Having a character enjoy being a hero is too cheesy for some I guess. They gotta be tortured and hate having to carry this burden.

 

[Tanin]

Having a character enjoy being a hero is too cheesy for some I guess. They gotta be tortured and hate having to carry this burden.

Thank You Star Wars