Paul Dano is Edward Nashton aka "The Riddler"

[Schlosser85]

Why do I seriously hope Dano is under one of those white suits if he is a CSI. Am I the only one who thinks that'd be a cool as hell idea? Similar to the John Doe comparisons a page or two ago.

Nashton being one of the crime scene investigators right under Batman and Gordon’s noses would be a great twist.

 

[BatsAndNights]

Nashton being one of the crime scene investigators right under Batman and Gordon’s noses would be a great twist.

It just makes so much sense, yet would be pretty unexpected.

 

[emielaen]

Why do I seriously hope Dano is under one of those white suits if he is a CSI. Am I the only one who thinks that'd be a cool as hell idea? Similar to the John Doe comparisons a page or two ago.

It'd be very cool.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Nashton being one of the crime scene investigators right under Batman and Gordon’s noses would be a great twist.

That'd be fantastic.

 

[NotNickFury]

Definitely Prisoners and There Will Be Blood. I'd even put Swiss Army Man, Little Miss Sunshine and the tv mini series Escape at Dannemora in there if you want to see him play a wide variety of different roles. The man has alot of range and is a great talent IMO who deserves to be a much bigger star than he is right now.

I forgot about Little Miss Sunshine. Have seen that, though I think when I saw it back then, I might've mixed him up for Demetri Martin.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

It looks like he has another white mask under his surplus mask when you look at his eyes: unsettling, creepy... I love it.

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That’s so creepy looking.
It looks like a fake face or something.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Yeah, I noticed his eyes too. There is just something unnatural and unsettling going on there. Makes me wonder what they’ve done to his physical appearance.

 

[AndyTrevino]

Art by Christian Ward

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Nashton being one of the crime scene investigators right under Batman and Gordon’s noses would be a great twist.

Not anymore... if you unintentionally spoiled it in advance.

 

[Schlosser85]

Not anymore... if you unintentionally spoiled it in advance.

It wasn't my idea, it was discussed a page or two back.

 

[BatsAndNights]

All I'll say is, to those of you reading this after The Batman has come out, if I was right

Ha.

 

[Boom]

God I love the aesthetic for this film.

 

[The Guard]

Yeah, but...that's just Dexter.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Yeah, but...that's just Dexter.

Technically, Dexter was a Blood Spatter Analyst.

 

[Sawyer]

 

[Mandon Knight]

On the subject of Paul Dano, does anyone have any recommendations of good movies that he's been in, or where he's given a good performance?

I've seen 12 Years a Slave, and Cowboys & Aliens, but haven't seen There Will Be Blood in its entirety, nor have I seen Prisoners, among others. Still, 12 Years alone sold me on him being a good pick by Matt Reeves. But does anyone recommend other films to get a good sense of Dano as an actor?

He's excellent in it and it's a cracking film in of itself, is Ruby Sparks.

 

[Ravagex]

I recently read Year Two comics and realized how much Reaper and this Riddler shares in similarities to seek justice in their own ways. I wonder if there will be more like Riddler losing someone he cares the way Reaper did to crime and corruption.

It was also a bonus to learn that The Phantasm from BTAS Movie, was a variant of Reaper.

 

[Mindreaper21]

What if Eddie’s fiancé was brutally murdered and the police covered it up? Honestly I’d rather keep his origins secret for now.

 

[Schlosser85]

What if Eddie’s fiancé was brutally murdered and the police covered it up? Honestly I’d rather keep his origins secret for now.

Meh. Honestly, as much as I'm not hugely into the Court of Owls concept, I find it a more interesting theory that he and Bruce are both orphans, except he had to grow up without Bruce's resources and somehow he knows about the Court abducting orphan children and is trying to manipulate Batman into discovering the Court's existence. I think that gives him more interesting motives than a typical "villain" and also gives more parallel between he and Batman. Like in a twisted way Nashton is trying to expose and eliminate systemic corruption in Gotham the same as Batman, he's just going about it in these heinous ways.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Meh. Honestly, as much as I'm not hugely into the Court of Owls concept, I find it a more interesting theory that he and Bruce are both orphans, except he had to grow up without Bruce's resources and somehow he knows about the Court abducting orphan children and is trying to manipulate Batman into discovering the Court's existence. I think that gives him more interesting motives than a typical "villain" and also gives more parallel between he and Batman. Like in a twisted way Nashton is trying to expose and eliminate systemic corruption in Gotham the same as Batman, he's just going about it in these heinous ways.

The whole orphan story has been done with Penguin. Riddler needs his own origin apart from the other villains. Also, manipulating Batman into discovering the court of owls sounds laughably idiotic. For me, Riddler being a current or former CSI is the best idea so far, because he would be close to everything and have access to so much knowledge about everyone while always staying ahead of the game.

 

[metaphysician]

Outside of Red Dragon Hannibal is also essentially far more of a supervillain than any sort of realistic serial killer, part of what was so brilliant about Fuller's show was almost entirely divorcing Harris's work from any sort of realism into something overtly surreal. On the opposite end of the spectrum, as a side-note, what I love so much about Brian Cox's "Lecktor" from Manhunter is how he feels exactly how a guy like Hannibal would be in real life - just sort of smarmy and unpleasant.

Being technically "Silly" isn't inherently a bad thing, taking a basically silly thing very seriously is part of the fun of the genre, far as I'm concerned. I enjoy that a hell of a lot more than winking irony.

I don't know, I would argue that the majority of serial killers in cinema and popular fiction are, effectively, supervillains. Its not just Lector, we have an entire, almost completely fantastical, myth of the Genius Serial Killer, with movies or TV only really diverging from it when they are intentionally focused on deconstructing the myth. Granted, part of this is that the Mythical Serial Killer is a lot more *interesting*, in a dramatic sense, than its real world analog. After all, virtually all serial killers escape notice for banal reasons ( typically societal disinterest in their victims and the sheer difficulty of investigating crimes without a conventional motive ), rather than anything which would make for a good story.

 

[metaphysician]

In a lesser movie than Silence Hopkin's Hannibal I actually do think would be too silly to be all that menacing. As evidenced by the other two far, far lesser movies where he just comes off... Weird. Although, some of his interactions with Norton in Red Dragon are pretty good even though Hopkins looks 8000 years old and Ratner's ultra-boring style doesn't lend him the same unsettling gravitas that Demme's intimate close-ups did.

The anomalous nature of Lecter coming off like a Bond villain feels a lot more striking in Silence because it's otherwise so grounded. That is a very difficult balance.

I have heard this contrast comes into play in the Hannibal TV show, only there, the way I've heard Lector described is "He's basically Satan".

 

[shauner111]

Brian Cox as Lecter >

 

[chintai80]

i feel that dano's gonna knock this one of the park and make his riddler one of the most memorable batman movie villains.

like, the only on-screen riddlers that matter will be: frank gorshin, john glover, paul dano

i didn't watch gotham.
and i'm not a fan of jim carrey's riddler.

 

[hellblazer103]

What if Eddie’s fiancé was brutally murdered and the police covered it up? Honestly I’d rather keep his origins secret for now.

It should be mostly secret and then eventually revealed, but I say just keep his regular origin of the abusive father. Make the father a detective of some sort in this case.

Brian Cox as Lecter >

Mikkelsen >>>>>>>>>>