People who sit next to you in the movies un appreciation thread

[charl_huntress]

I'm only going to get into this once because...I don't have the time to go round and round about it. When people (not just children) watch violent images part of their brain is stimulated by those images. Though most people can distinguish the difference between real and fake. The lasting effects of these images can cause individuals to be desensitized to violence and may lead them to commit violent acts themselves. Please go back and read my earlier post. As you will see I said it desensitizes them to violence and can be a contributing factor to things like someone emulating a movie.

The implications of this are many and include the idea that continued exposure to violent videos will make an adolescent less sensitive to violence, more accepting of violence and more likely to commit aggressive acts since the emotional component associated with aggression is reduced and normally acts as a brake on aggressive behaviour.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ws-DO-make-boys-aggressive.html#ixzz287rW2Upt

There are numerous studies on this which can be found via the web.

However, if any of you want to take your 12 year old to a horror movie or let them watch porn with you then by all means do so. I am not the parent police and I could care less how anyone raises future prisoners...I mean their child. My thought is eventually the system will get them anyway. Also, since I rarely go to movies anymore it's not really something I am concerned about.

How about right of the bat I call your idea idiotic, instead of calling you a name.

 

[lixdexia]

I disagree. IMO, this is like letting a 12 year old watch hardcore porn. I think when adults let children watch movies like this they desensitive them to extreme amounts of violence before they can properly process this information. IMO, this is one of the contributing factors that lead to people shooting up movie theaters trying to emulate something they seen in a movie.

then in this case your opinion is misinformed and childishly simple. correlation =/= causation

 

[charl_huntress]

then in this case your opinion is misinformed and childishly simple. correlation =/= causation

If any of you want to take your 12 year old to a horror movie or let them watch porn with you then by all means do so. I am not the parent police and I could care less how anyone raises future prisoners...I mean their child. My thought is eventually the system will get them anyway. Also, since I rarely go to movies anymore it's not really something I am concerned about.

 

[lixdexia]

If any of you want to take your 12 year old to a horror movie or let them watch porn with you then by all means do so. I am not the parent police and I could care less how anyone raises their jail bait...I mean child. My thought is eventually the system will get them anyway. Also, since I rarely go to movies anymore it's not really something I am concerned about.

that's not what that means.

sit in condescension as much as you like, but i and the vast majority of people who are exposed to these things at a young age are no more violent or prone to criminal acts than any one who wasn't.

using your thought process wouldn't superhero movies, or action movies where the hero often acts through violence be a worse influence on children? i don't have any facts to back me up on this claim, but i'm pretty sure more children fantasize about assaulting people as spider-man than they do assaulting people as freddy kruger.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[charl_huntress]

that's not what that means.

You are right and I corrected it. Thanks!

Again, I'm not going to go round and round on this. Parents can raise their kids how they want and if you want to take your kids to violent flicks and what not then do so. I don't care. At one point and time I did, but I don't anymore. Like I said, the system will likely get them anyway.

I'm persuaded that a "normal" kid who's exposed to violence in films will not become violent. However, for those kids who are not "normal", there's nothing to suggest that they would have committed violent acts had they not been exposed to violent films.

I read a story about a guy who killed a lot of people emulating the Child's Play movie. Again, I don't think it influences everyone, but if you're already leaning toward being unbalanced...it's not going to help.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[Venomfan]

I disagree. IMO, this is like letting a 12 year old watch hardcore porn.

unfortunately the last statistic i read said thats the average age kids view it these days

 

[Kane52630]

All I know is that I've watched some films with hardcore violence as a kid growing up and I'm not a f*** up...at least I'd like to think so.

 

[Darthphere]

If any of you want to take your 12 year old to a horror movie or let them watch porn with you then by all means do so. I am not the parent police and I could care less how anyone raises future prisoners...I mean their child. My thought is eventually the system will get them anyway. Also, since I rarely go to movies anymore it's not really something I am concerned about.

But feel the need to judge everyone else on it because, hey what else am I supposed to do while on this high horse.

"My God, they're showing porn and horror movies to 12 year olds, what a shame!"

Also about the future prisoners thing. There are a lot more people in prison that were forced to read the Bible as children than people who watched Dawn of the Dead at 12.

 

[E-Man]

I'm only going to get into this once because...I don't have the time to go round and round about it. When people (not just children) watch violent images part of their brain is stimulated by those images. Though most people can distinguish the difference between real and fake. The lasting effects of these images can cause individuals to be desensitized to violence and may lead them to commit violent acts themselves. Please go back and read my earlier post. As you will see I said it desensitizes them to violence and can be a contributing factor to things like someone emulating a movie.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ws-DO-make-boys-aggressive.html#ixzz287rW2Upt

There are numerous studies on this which can be found via the web.

However, if any of you want to take your 12 year old to a horror movie or let them watch porn with you then by all means do so. I am not the parent police and I could care less how anyone raises future prisoners...I mean their child. My thought is eventually the system will get them anyway. Also, since I rarely go to movies anymore it's not really something I am concerned about.

This argument never works because it avoids understanding how humans behave. Violence has been prevalent ever since humanity has existed. From day one we fought each other for things, and when you take into the level of violence that occurs today Western society is far less violent than damn near any time in human history. What caused people to lynch en masse about a century ago? What causes the horrid treatment of Palestinians in Israel right now? When Genghis Khan's troops conquered a land they would cut open pregnant women's bellies and then stab their unborn children. What violent movies were they watching that caused these things?

The link you posted also has a poor argument because all it does is says that kid's brains lit up with activity when there were violent images on the screen. It didn't take into account what the images were and that kids might actually not react to the non-violent images because they're kids who get bored at things. It also doesn't state how the kids become aggressive at all. It just says that they could, and that's where this argument has failed for decades. People keep talking about how someone could become a violent murderer because of them seeing violent movies or playing violent video games, but the fact that the crime rate has dipped while people make that silly argument proves it wrong. Plus anyone can do a study like that and post it online. Just because it's labeled as a study doesn't mean that it's a particularly good study. There was a time that scientists actually believed that rats grew from dirty rags, but they weren't accurate just because they were labeled scientists.

Plus it goes back to my original point that these arguments never take into account how human beings work. We know good and well that entertainment is fake. This is something everyone knows since the time they are 3 or 4. No one looks at Jason Voorhees hitting a woman against a tree in a sleeping bag as if it's real. Even if they did, then why don't people who watch a lot of movies promoting love and fairness as kids not grow up to be saints that spend all their time helping the homeless and sick? Because entertainment is escapism. That doesn't mean that people get lost in it so much that the lines between real life and fiction are blurred. That just means that people watch it, know it's fake, and understand things. When you say people get desensitized to things you fail to grasp that horror movies are so openly fake that everyone knows that blood doesn't splatter everywhere. Everyone who watches these things know that you can't twist a person's head off with your bare hands because a damn zombie is the one doing it in the first place. It's the people that don't watch these things and judge from afar that are the ones living in an incorrect fantasy.

Here are links about how violence has been declining.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...es-in-the-us-drop-approach-historic-lows?lite

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0612/US-violent-crime-rate-down-for-fifth-straight-year

http://theweek.com/article/index/229129/americas-historic-drop-in-violent-crime-by-the-numbers

Those damn Saw movies causing all those kids to kill people!

 

[redhawk23]

I'm only going to get into this once because...I don't have the time to go round and round about it. When people (not just children) watch violent images part of their brain is stimulated by those images. Though most people can distinguish the difference between real and fake. The lasting effects of these images can cause individuals to be desensitized to violence and may lead them to commit violent acts themselves. Please go back and read my earlier post. As you will see I said it desensitizes them to violence and can be a contributing factor to things like someone emulating a movie.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ws-DO-make-boys-aggressive.html#ixzz287rW2Upt

There are numerous studies on this which can be found via the web.

However, if any of you want to take your 12 year old to a horror movie or let them watch porn with you then by all means do so. I am not the parent police and I could care less how anyone raises future prisoners...I mean their child. My thought is eventually the system will get them anyway. Also, since I rarely go to movies anymore it's not really something I am concerned about.

See the problem with arguements like this is that they don't match up to what as actually gone on in the world over the past few decades. Even as video games have become more popular, more realistic and more violent, even as ratings boards have become more accepting of violence in movies and on television, VIOLENT CRIME RATES ARE DOWN, and have been decreasing for 15 years.

 

[Darthphere]

This argument never works because it avoids understanding how humans behave. Violence has been prevalent ever since humanity has existed. From day one we fought each other for things, and when you take into the level of violence that occurs today Western society is far less violent than damn near any time in human history. What caused people to lynch en masse about a century ago? What causes the horrid treatment of Palestinians in Israel right now? When Genghis Khan's troops conquered a land they would cut open pregnant women's bellies and then stab their unborn children. What violent movies were they watching that caused these things?

The link you posted also has a poor argument because all it does is says that kid's brains lit up with activity when there were violent images on the screen. It didn't take into account what the images were and that kids might actually not react to the non-violent images because they're kids who get bored at things. It also doesn't state how the kids become aggressive at all. It just says that they could, and that's where this argument has failed for decades. People keep talking about how someone could become a violent murderer because of them seeing violent movies or playing violent video games, but the fact that the crime rate has dipped while people make that silly argument proves it wrong. Plus anyone can do a study like that and post it online. Just because it's labeled as a study doesn't mean that it's a particularly good study. There was a time that scientists actually believed that rats grew from dirty rags, but they weren't accurate just because they were labeled scientists.

Plus it goes back to my original point that these arguments never take into account how human beings work. We know good and well that entertainment is fake. This is something everyone knows since the time they are 3 or 4. No one looks at Jason Voorhees hitting a woman against a tree in a sleeping bag as if it's real. Even if they did, then why don't people who watch a lot of movies promoting love and fairness as kids not grow up to be saints that spend all their time helping the homeless and sick? Because entertainment is escapism. That doesn't mean that people get lost in it so much that the lines between real life and fiction are blurred. That just means that people watch it, know it's fake, and understand things. When you say people get desensitized to things you fail to grasp that horror movies are so openly fake that everyone knows that blood doesn't splatter everywhere. Everyone who watches these things know that you can't twist a person's head off with your bare hands because a damn zombie is the one doing it in the first place. It's the people that don't watch these things and judge from afar that are the ones living in an incorrect fantasy.

Here are links about how violence has been declining.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...es-in-the-us-drop-approach-historic-lows?lite

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0612/US-violent-crime-rate-down-for-fifth-straight-year

http://theweek.com/article/index/229129/americas-historic-drop-in-violent-crime-by-the-numbers

Those damn Saw movies causing all those kids to kill people!

I wanted to read this, but after you showed up with facts I stopped reading. No need to debate with anyone who resorts right off to stating facts.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ws-DO-make-boys-aggressive.html#ixzz287rW2Upt

I'm staying out of this but one tip next time. You may wanna use a source better than the Daily Mail, which is one of the most (if not the most) notoriously false and sensational newspapers in the world. You're better off even reading the National Equirer.

And I will say there's a huge difference between horror and hardcore porn. Not even close. Kids are smarter than people think, especially with good parenting. I played rated M games, and watched rated R movies before I was 10 and I came out fine. I'm a college student with no arrest record. Good parenting triumphs over all.

 

[grout]

Hey why dont they do like concert seating during opening weekend.. In other words you can buy your seat or 's. You may pay more but at least you can attempt to avoid half the weird crowd.

 

[Kane52630]

I wanted to read this, but after you showed up with facts I stopped reading. No need to debate with anyone who resorts right off to stating facts.

 

[bullets]

I'd think my parents were awesome if I were 12 and they took me to see a horror movie.

My parents took me to see Jurassic Park when I was 10 and they let me take a friend. It might of been his first experience watching anything violent but I had already seen horror films. My mother used to watch a lot of horror and I'd beg to watch them with her. I'd have to cover my eyes if there was a sex scene.
I remember going to my grandparents house and my grandpa wouldn't let me watch a Friday the 13th movie. I told him I had already seen it before. Needless to say he wasn't to happy about that.

 

[The Batkilt]

lol... It's a stereotype. Not all black people do it. Though for me my worse experiences at the movies always involve white teenagers. They are just rude to the point where I want to put hands on them.

Try putting up with Scottish teenagers - of any creed. Many a time mass murder has seemed very tempting.

 

[tzarinna]

There were a lot of well adjusted children at Monster Mania, quite a few under 12. There were a couple of adorable boys that knew things about Hellraiser that I didn't know. *so ashamed* A ton of kids that were huge fans of The Walking Dead TV series, also varied in age. I didn't witness any kids acting like buttholes, or seem to have the potential for such.

 

[charl_huntress]

Like I said people, if you want take your child to horror movies and let them watch porn then do so. No need to convince me this is right or wrong. As I said before, I don't care.

I'm staying out of this but one tip next time. You may wanna use a source better than the Daily Mail, which is one of the most (if not the most) notoriously false and sensational newspapers in the world. You're better off even reading the National Equirer.

le sigh...the study is an actual one and again, you can find plenty more information on the web regarding this study. This is just from one place. If you want to read something from a less "sensational" magazine then look up some articles in pyschology journals.

 

[Darthphere]

Like I said people, if you want take your child to horror movies and let them watch porn then do so. No need to convince me this is right or wrong. As I said before, I don't care.

You just care to judge everyone else.

 

[charl_huntress]

My judgement is irrelvant to how someone else wants to raise their child because that child is not mine.

 

[Darthphere]

My judgement is irrelvant to how someone else wants to raise their child because that child is not mine.

Your whole existence is irrelevant but here we are. You keep saying "Do what you want, it's not my kid." Yet, you continue with this "Watching horror movies is like watching porn and it will make your kid a criminal." You can't have it both ways. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't be in here casting judgment from the sky.

 

[knowsbleed]

If said child goes to a porno/horror film and grows up to be the next James Holmes... said child could possibly affect your life. Thoughts?

 

[Manic]

If your judgement of others is irrelevant, then why openly pronounce it in a public forum? I mean, you're the one who passive aggressively said that anyone who allows their children to watch violent movies is raising a future criminal.