POTC = The new SW?

[Mr. Socko]

LOTR would have had a bigger impact if they were never books first.

 

[Erzengel]

This is the Star Wars: OT for my generation...I can only wonder what the next generation will have for their Star Wars.

Wow, I'm really sorry.

 

[Cinemaman]

For me:

SW: ANH - 9 out of 10

SW: ESB - 9 out of 10

SW: ROTJ - 8 out of 10

Raiders of the Lost Ark - 10 out of 10

IJ and TOD - 7 out of 10

IJ and TLC - 9 out of 10

LOTR: FOTR - 9 out of 10

LOTR: TTT - 8 out of 10

LOTR: ROTK - 9 out of 10

POTC: COBP - 8 out of 10

POTC: DMC - 6 out of 10

POTC: AWE - 5 out of 10

So, Indiana Jones>>>Star Wars>>Lord of the Rings>>>>POTC

 

[bunk]

LOTR films really revolutionized nothing.

And I hate Star Trek.

What about the whole "filming multiple movies at the same time" thing.

Or the AI programs for the huge battles.

Or digital grading

Or the way they so seamlessly blended live action, cg, miniatures, and sets.

Gollum

 

[The Kid]

What about the whole "filming multiple movies at the same time" thing.

Or the AI programs for the huge battles.

Or digital grading

Or the way they so seamlessly blended live action, cg, miniatures, and sets.

Gollum

None of that really broke ground that changed cinema forever.

 

[xwolverine2]

LOTR would have had a bigger impact if they were never books first.

actually LESS

 

[skorponok]

Nothing will ever have the impact that Star Wars has had on culture, filmmaking technology, the film business, etc etc etc.

In short, there will never be a "new" Star Wars.

 

[bunk]

None of that really broke ground that changed cinema forever.

I wouldn't necessarily argue with that though I think the crew would. Of course your comment also applies to POTC, and much more easily.

 

[Matt]

Siiiigh.

NONE OF THEM HAVE HAD THE IMPACT STAR WARS HAS HAD! THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR LESS THAN 10 YEARS! THERE IS NO WAY TO EVALUATE IMPACT OR SUCCESSFULLY PREDICT WHAT IMPACT WILL BE AT THIS POINT!

God, some of you are dense.

 

[LostSon88]

that's totally not what i'm arguing.

I'm not arguing SW impact on society because that would be pretty ignorant...i'm arguing the similar story elements POTC shares with the series.

 

[PowersOfMind]

that's totally not what i'm arguing.

I'm not arguing SW impact on society because that would be pretty ignorant...i'm arguing the similar story elements POTC shares with the series.

Well now you know some get really bent out of shape when you mess with their Star Wars.

 

[The Kid]

I wouldn't necessarily argue with that though I think the crew would. Of course your comment also applies to POTC, and much more easily.

perhaps. I just think there's a clear difference between upgrading from windows 95 to xp and actually inventing dos.

 

[Matt]

Well now you know some get really bent out of shape when you mess with their Star Wars.

I don't like Star Wars that much.

As for arguing story similiarities, you can link practically any story together. Hell, I can link The Godfather to Star Wars. Most stories use basic plot elements and archtypes.

 

[Victarion]

Wow, I'm really sorry.

What for?

 

[Erzengel]

that's totally not what i'm arguing.

I'm not arguing SW impact on society because that would be pretty ignorant...i'm arguing the similar story elements POTC shares with the series.

Similiar themes(and I'm being generous because there's no way I think of the Black Pearl and the Falcon in the same way or those 2 guys and R2 and Threepio) doesn't make it the New Star Wars. And secondly, how is DMC the "Empire" of the series because it's a cliffhanger? Therefore Reloaded should be the "Empire" of the Matrix Trilogy.

 

[PowersOfMind]

Matt that wasn't directed at you. I know a few people who get real upset if you mention anything that can be viewed as negative about SW.

I agree with your point that it is too soon to determine what has impact and what doesnt.
I just think that with what Pirates has done, amking pirates cool again and all it has the potential to be, for people younger then us, the SW of their time.

Now I haven't never seen any of the original trilogy in theaters but I know when my parents talk about it there is this look they have in their eyes and the other day with my sister and her friends I noted that same look.

 

[LostSon88]

Well now you know some get really bent out of shape when you mess with their Star Wars.

Tell me about it...and this is coming from a hardcore SW fan too.

 

[Erzengel]

Okay. See this is what always confused me and made me laugh.

I just think that with what Pirates has done, amking pirates cool again and all it has the potential to be, for people younger then us, the SW of their time..

So it was cool when real pirates were murderous, raping, thieving low lifes who preyed on anything on the Sea?

Or they were cool in fiction with Captain Ron, and Pirates of Penzance and it had to be brought back to that level of coolness?

LOL.

 

[Victarion]

So it was cool when real pirates were murderous, raping, thieving low lifes who preyed on anything on the Sea?
.

Well, it makes for some interesting reading/viewing, doesn't it? Especially when one of them is the protagonist.

 

[Erzengel]

I love Schindler's List. Nazis haven't been this cool since Hogan's Heroes.

 

[Victarion]

I love Schindler's List. Nazis haven't been this cool since Hogan's Heroes.

...Nazis in a pirate thread..

What's the significance of it?

 

[PowersOfMind]

So it was cool when real pirates were murderous, raping, thieving low lifes who preyed on anything on the Sea?

For those who wanted the pirate life I'm pretty sure it was. There are those who think gangster rap is best thing ever. It puts an interesting spin on things.

Or they were cool in fiction with Captain Ron, and Pirates of Penzance and it had to be brought back to that level of coolness?

Ummm...no. I dont think there is anything that will make Captain Ron cool.

 

[Erzengel]

Real pirates aren't the nicest of people.

And the person I quoted stated "POTC made pirates cool again".

Which led me to to make a connection to another group of disreputable people?

It's called a metaphor?

 

[Erzengel]

For those who wanted the pirate life I'm pretty sure it was.

Yeah my guidance counselor gave us all the good Pirate schools we should apply to.

Ummm...no. I dont think there is anything that will make Captain Ron cool.

I'm sorry I forgot about Captain Crunch too.

 

[Victarion]

There is a difference-with pillage, rape, etc., you don't commit genocide, though. Thus a realistic pirate flick with a pirate as the protagonist would be pretty cool.

Sorry for getting OT. BTW Erzengel, why were you sorry for me?