Power Rangers 3.0

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm skeptical Power Rangers will even last till the Gokaiger adaption.

Power Rangers Samurai is horrible. I'm expecting the ratings to decline if the show continues to be THIS cheesy. It's never been this lame since Turbo.

 

[Obsidian Idea]

I disagree about Turbo, it had it's 'eh' moments but it had some of the best and intense unmorphed fights of any PR Series.

I agree with you on PR:S...like I mentioned at Rangerboard...the acting has degenerated. It had better acting with Disney. I've only caught the beginning , middle or end of a couple of episodes...but that was enough for me to see...it ain't workin'.....

...add to that, Nick isn't showing the eps in order either...I'll give it more time. If it doesn't shape up by the end of the season...I don't know. I hope it's a case of Saban and Co. trying to get their 'Power Ranger legs' back.

 

[DCnightwing23]

The ratings for Power Rangers Samurai were actually pretty damn good last time i checked, the second episode alone raked in something like 3 million viewers. So the potential is there, but was Obsidian pointed out i think this series is more or less Sabans way of just seeing what works nowadays, Saban hasnt been doing power rangers since 2002 with Wild Force. So i dont think Sabans Power Rangers will die anytime soon. Especially since the Sentai Goseiger series after Power Rangers Samurai seems much better and reminds me of Alien Rangers, and then the newest series Gokaiger is a gold mine in terms of merchandising the past ranger series'. From what ive seen of Gokaiger, it definitely seems grittier for sure, monsters blasting buildings taking over earth cant be THAT campy, and thats something really cool honestly, it reminds me of In Space, which many believe to be one of the best power rangers series, with that darker more mature tone, with its comedic relief every now and then.

I think the one thing that just makes adapting Gokaiger much more better is the fact that the characters from MMPR to PRIS and then the Disney series is the fact that i think the audience is far more close to the past rangers then over in japan with sentai. Here is the U.S, atleast back when Saban did it from MMPR to PRIS you had rangers sticking around for longer periods of time, practically growing up on the silver screen. And some of the characters were even more then one ranger in a different series. Im mentioning this because in the very opening moments of Gokaiger we see this epic battle with all the previous rangers fighting to protect earth, but it felt rushed and the way the battle ended imo didnt do justice to the previous rangers. And its not the way i picture an adaptation of it here in the U.S would go down, the past rangers are so beloved here in the U.S, but not the rangers themselves as much as the actors/characters that are inside the suits. I mean that battle in Gokaiger lasted under 2 minutes (showing them coming together and fighting, etc) SERIOUSLY??! It'd be much more epic here in the states, just imagine seeing the actors from MMPR to the actors in PRIS all coming together, that in itself makes the opening of that series atleast a two parter if not more. There's so much Saban can do after Samurai its rather exciting. Although i do admit Saban is gonna have to put a lot more work into adapting Gokaiger, atleast in the first episode with that battle of the previous rangers coming together.

If you dont know what im talking about here's the video of the battle:
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So i dont think its over for Sabans Power Rangers just yet, not by a long shot, they know whats after Samurai to adapt and its rather awesome. So this year and the next is Samurai then on to Goseiger for maybe a year? And then Gokaiger for a 20th anniversary series (re-releasing the previous series toys, etc.) And having actors from previous seasons all unite for that epic battle thats in Gokaiger, that sounds pretty awesome if you ask me, and i havent been a power rangers fan for awhile. I was thinking just the other day of how the first episode of Gokaiger being adapted should be, im thinking maybe we see a long lost friend of Zordon's meditating in a temple on another planet, and as he's meditating he starts hearing Zordon (with the voice of Zordon) sort of like the force in star wars, basically telling him that theres a dark and powerful force heading to earth. So once he gets the message he travels to earth and starts contacting every single past ranger (hacking their phones, etc.) and we see each team uniting one by one. And then you get the re-shot final battle scene and the rangers basically sacrificing themselves to destroy this armada to protect the earth. But then throughout the season, we find out that they didnt die, they just lost all their powers and they have spread out throughout the universe in groups to protect (basically underground ops) and maybe a original ranger like say Jason from MMPR stayed on Earth. And they eventually meet him, and he becomes a mentor of sorts for these reluctant pirate rangers, that really never wanted to be "rangers" as we know them, protectors.

That's the way i see Gokaiger possibly being adapted, it can be done, but they just have to get past the introduction episodes which would be the hardest part of the series. But in my opinion it would be a epic series if done right.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Saban had nothing to do with Wild Force.


Disney owned PR at that time and controlled MMPR Productions in LA.


Obviously the ratings would start off strong given all the heavy promotion, but the pisspoor quality of the series (with poor action (mainly sentai footage), horrible acting, corny dialogue, uninspired plots ripped directly from the sentai, and uninteresting characters and villains will seal the show's fate unless things drastically improve.

I expect a ratings decline soon. Nostalgia only goes so far.

 

[DCnightwing23]

Honestly i dont even mind if Samurai gets the boot. Your right, the acting sucks, the casting is just awful ( i mean come on the LEADER looks like he's a justin beiber pot head look-a-like) It has a few moments, mainly the Bulk scenes, that crack me up and remind me of way back when. The sooner they get to Goseiger the better, Goseiger really looks promising for sure. Well, atleast better then Samurai.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Goseiger? I like the raw material, but the story/plot of Goseiger is incredibly weak.

Goseiger is one of those Sentai that would need some major original work done in the American adaption to make it great for PR. Kinda like how Eddie transformed Go-Onger to the post-apocalyptic RPM, or Gingaman to the Space-themed Lost Galaxy.

Presently, I don't believe the current team has the initiative to do original work and put in extra effort.

 

[DCnightwing23]

Only time will tell honestly, idk if you've seen Gokaiger, but there is a lot of potential there, and i think its so good mainly because its the 35th anniversary series over there in Japan. But if Saban and crew can get to Gokaiger by say, 2013 for a 20th anniversary series, that can be the true revival of the Saban Power Rangers series, it would just be a gold mine for them.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Gokaiger has TONS of potential.

But you referred to Goseiger.

 

[Raiden]

Before Saban decides whether to adapt Gokaiger, they'll have to tackle Goseiger, and like MoT said it'll take some effort to do so, mainly because of its theme around Goseigers being the angels and therefore might invite some controversy. And Gokaiger won't be that easy to adapt as well, because if they want to stray too far away from the source material, Saban will have to shoot their own original footages and right now it remains unknown if their new cockpit scenes in Samurai have paid off yet.

Btw, I agree with you guys about Power Rangers Samurai; it's rather atrocious. The acting, the voice-overs, and even the Bulk & Spike scenes were bad. I know Saban is trying to bring back that MMPR nostagia but it will only carry them so far.

 

[Gold Samurai]

If Saban wants Gokaiger to be successful he needs to prepare now.

-Get whatever pass alumni are willing to come back.

-Work out the kinks of how to adapt the series.


Gokaiger(2011 Sentai) was probably in the planning stages during the beginning or middle of Shinkenger (2009 Sentai) WHILE gearing up for Goseiger(2010).



On to Power Ranger's Samurai episode 3

"Sticks and Stones"


First episode that I can say that wasn't too bad. Did they really have to emulate the piggy back scene and green ranger narration at the end too from Shinkenger?

I know they've been copying Shinkenger 85% of the time but the ending doesn't seem like it needed to be copied.

They take out the Shinkenger cockpit, add in the sword controllers and add the Megaranger suits.

Seems like they're not focusing on what really could be changed.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

It's not the angels aspect that's controversial, it's just that Goseiger is generally stale plot-wise. It's a lot of the same old stuff we've seen PR already do multiple times.

There's nothing majorly unique about the series.

That's why it needs a drastic overhaul in the American version.


IMO they should tie Goseiger and Gokaiger together. Goseiger would be the first wave of the alien invasion and Gokaiger would be the epic war to re-take Earth.

They could make the Goseiger villians part of the same Alien federation as the Gokaiger villians; think the Dominion on Star Trek.

 

[Raiden]

Well, between the angel theme (which hasn't been attempted before unlike ninjas and dinosaurs), and the three different villain factions that Goseigers had to deal with during the series, I don't think it's correct that to say these have been done before. I think the problem with Goseiger is the execution, because the characters for some reason just aren't as interesting as before, and it is one of its problems. As for your proposal of tying both Goseiger and Gokaiger together, I don't see how they can be done, although admittedly Saban has done some pretty unconventional things before (like using Zyuranger for two straight seasons while ignoring most of Dairanger).

 

[Gold Samurai]

(like using Zyuranger for two straight seasons while ignoring most of Dairanger).

Three straight seasons and still managing to add in the Alien Rangers/Kakuranger footage.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

We've had multiple factions of villains in Overdrive. We had bug-based villains in Lost Galaxy, the second faction is similar to the Orgs in WF and Goseiger's final faction is similar to Venjix in RPM (wants machines to dominate humanity).

The angel theme hasn't been done on PR before true enough, but it's an incredibly lame theme on it's own without something more to back it up.

I think it would be smarter to go with a "Flight" theme for the PR adaption, something akin to Jetman and Ohranger. Make the rangers into fighter pilots. Do something epic and out of the box like Eddie did with RPM.

And my idea is basically to connect the Goseiger and Gokaiger villain factions together as part of one evil alliance. How is that difficult? They're all evil space aliens.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Saban will have to shoot their own original footages and right now it remains unknown if their new cockpit scenes in Samurai have paid off yet.

Season 3 he covered up the kakuranger's by making american cockpits


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Then there's the movie one and Turbo movie one

 

[DCnightwing23]

It'd gonna be rather expensive for Saban to adapt Gokaiger, from the fact that since MMPR a bunch of people have played more then one ranger, to the fact that when the pirate rangers change into other rangers they'll have to make completely new suit replica's of the past rangers to properly fit the gokaiger actors. So Gold Samurai is absolutely right, Saban better start preparing for that series now and get things straightened out. Gokaiger is the series im most excited for, theres huge potential there for Saban to truly revive Power Rangers.

 

[Raiden]

We've had multiple factions of villains in Overdrive. We had bug-based villains in Lost Galaxy, the second faction is similar to the Orgs in WF and Goseiger's final faction is similar to Venjix in RPM (wants machines to dominate humanity).

The angel theme hasn't been done on PR before true enough, but it's an incredibly lame theme on it's own without something more to back it up.

I think it would be smarter to go with a "Flight" theme for the PR adaption, something akin to Jetman and Ohranger. Make the rangers into fighter pilots. Do something epic and out of the box like Eddie did with RPM.

And my idea is basically to connect the Goseiger and Gokaiger villain factions together as part of one evil alliance. How is that difficult? They're all evil space aliens.

Aside from linking the alien factions together, will you also link the Power Rangers together by casting the same actor in these two teams a la Tommy in MMPR 1 & 2?

Season 3 he covered up the kakuranger's by making american cockpits


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Then there's the movie one and Turbo movie one

Thanks for the info!

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Aside from linking the alien factions together, will you also link the Power Rangers together by casting the same actor in these two teams a la Tommy in MMPR 1 & 2?

Nope.

I want the American versions of the Gokaiger to be refugees from the war-torn Eltar. Eltar is conquered by the Gokaiger alien villains.

The five come from Eltar to Earth to drain Earth of it's resources in order to save their own homeworld. But instead, influenced by humanity and the exploits of the previous ranger teams, they decide to defend Earth from facing the same fate as their home world.

 

[Donut]

With Power Rangers they can do some Alternate Reality type thing when it comes to MMPR Tommy 1 & 2 & jave Green & White be different people with Tommy being his latest Dino Thunder

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'd rather he just assume the Red Zeo Powers for the great battle. That way there can be complete core teams;

MMPR: Red, Black, Blue, Yellow, Pink

MMAR: Red, Black, Blue Yellow, White,

Zeo: Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, Pink, Gold (Trey)

Turbo: Blue (Justin), Phantom Ranger

Space: Red, Black, Blue, Yellow, Pink, Silver

Galaxy: Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, Pink

Lightspeed: Red, Green Blue, Yellow, Pink, Titanium

Time Force: Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Pink, Quantum

Wild Force: Red, Black, Blue, Yellow, Pink, Lunar Wolf

Ninja Storm, Red, Yellow, Blue, Crimson, Navy, Green

Dino Thunder: Red, Blue, Yellow, White

SPD: Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Pink, Shadow, Omega

Mystic Force: Red, Green, Yellow, Blue, Pink, White

Operation Overdrive: Red, Black, Blue, Yellow, Pink, Mercury

Jungle Fury: Red, Yellow, Blue, Violet, White, Bat, Shark, Elephant,

RPM: Red, Blue, Yellow, Black, Green, Gold, Silver,

Samurai: Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Pink, Gold,

PR 2012: Red, Black, Blue, Yellow, Pink



That would be quite an epic ranger battle. I hope the PR adaption will shoot something along those lines.

 

[Donut]

Cutting out MMPR Green & White just seems wrong & the rest of Turbo. I guess what they can do is bring back clone Tommy from Wild West who stayed in the past since he still had the Coin & he gets brought to the future to the & Clone Tommy can be Green Ranger & original Tommy White & Rocky can be one of the other Reds & just say a new guy replaced Tommy as Black Dino after he retired or something

 

[DCnightwing23]

Yeah i gotta agree with Man of Tomorrow with the way the line-ups should be in the great battle. As for what donut is thinking for all of the Tommy stuff, no way that'll happen. That would seem way rushed and i dont see them introducing that and fitting it in to a two part episode (which i assume is what it'll be) Just seeing all the rangers come together would be epic. But what do you guys think Saban and crew will do, keep the rangers gone after the end of the battle, or possibly keeping them alive and finding that out later on in the series, much like i described (the rangers actually go into a low key underground mode and spread throughout the universe to protect planets) And possibly having a MMPR as a mentor on Earth later on.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Cutting out MMPR Green & White just seems wrong & the rest of Turbo. I guess what they can do is bring back clone Tommy from Wild West who stayed in the past since he still had the Coin & he gets brought to the future to the & Clone Tommy can be Green Ranger & original Tommy White & Rocky can be one of the other Reds & just say a new guy replaced Tommy as Black Dino after he retired or something

They can showcase the Green Ranger and White Ranger powers in other episodes, when they bring in the 6th Gokaiger who can transform into them.

Having multiple Tommys fight in the great ranger war is kinda lame.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Yeah i gotta agree with Man of Tomorrow with the way the line-ups should be in the great battle. As for what donut is thinking for all of the Tommy stuff, no way that'll happen. That would seem way rushed and i dont see them introducing that and fitting it in to a two part episode (which i assume is what it'll be) Just seeing all the rangers come together would be epic. But what do you guys think Saban and crew will do, keep the rangers gone after the end of the battle, or possibly keeping them alive and finding that out later on in the series, much like i described (the rangers actually go into a low key underground mode and spread throughout the universe to protect planets) And possibly having a MMPR as a mentor on Earth later on.

So far in Gokaiger, all the past sentai members seem to be alive. Only their powers are lost, but they're still on Earth as civilians. MagiRed (Mystic Force Red) appears in episode 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eHbK7o_fdcQ#t=556s

 

[DCnightwing23]

So far in Gokaiger, all the past sentai members seem to be alive. Only their powers are lost, but they're still on Earth as civilians. MagiRed (Mystic Force Red) appears in episode 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eHbK7o_fdcQ#t=556s

Yeah i caught that in the episode before, when they were in search for the man in black the whole episode, couldnt find the right person, and magired appeared at the end, it was pretty cool. So all of the rangers are still on earth? Hmm that'd be interesting if they did that here in U.S, i think imo it'd be cooler if the rangers had spread out to protect other planets as well, and communicate every now and then for updates. So there's only one or two rangers still on earth.

Oh and quick question as well, there is in fact a 6th ranger in gokaiger? I didnt know if it was just a rumor or something. That'd be really cool and weird to see some else besides Tommy being able to turn into both the white and green ranger. Possibly with the old "hut-seat-he-yaw!" t: