Prometheus - Part 5

[Wesley Dodds]

What's interesting about Resurrection's crew is that they were all knda rough around the edges prototypes for what the Serenity crew would turn out to be.
Think about it.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea pretty much. Pearlman's character for example is clearly similar to Baldwin's character.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

They're basically the parallel universe, R-Rated Serenity crew. LOL.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

Eeeuuuch, I just LOL'd. I NEVER LOL... weird.

 

[The Morningstar]

"If we wanna make a decent time i say we ditch the cripple. No offense man"

"None taken!"

haha i love that scene.

 

[dude stannis]

The Avengers script was written and production started long before Killer Elite came out.

Killer Elite was in the can by 2010, Avengers filmed during 2011. The KE trailer debuted in June of 2011, while Avengers was still in principal photography for another two months.

But you know.... Prometheus... It's gonna be awesome.

 

[The Morningstar]

Killer Elite wasn't released until last September though was it? So unless Whedon saw it in 2010 i don't see how he ripped anything off.

 

[Still Wynning]

You know, I'm excited for Prometheus, but I'm really getting tired of people bashing other movies in order to make a movie like this one look good.

Hell, I've read that people who have been to screenings of The Avengers say that it's a great, entertaining film with lots of action and great chemistry and interaction between all of the characters.

 

[cherokeesam]

I like the show, but sometimes the contributors go alittle over-the-top. The best parts of the show definitely revolve around the ancient astronauts lending a helping hand to the early civilizations.

Feats that scream out 'extraterrestrial' would undoubtedly have to be brain surgery and cities constructed of massive stones.

"I don't know; therefore, aliens"


"Sometimes" it goes over the top...?? I think it *always* goes over the top. The speculation is always fun, but these guys seem totally incapable of using words like "maybe," "could be," and "possibly"....instead, they deal in absolutes. Like it's common knowledge that the aliens were here and did this and did that.

There's plenty of mysteries in the ancient world, but quite a bit of this is just simply modern man completely underestimating ancient man. For instance, whenever someone discovers that an ancient site has very definite astronomical and calendrical qualities to it (Stonehenge, Copan and the like), they automatically jump to the conclusion that the only reason humans could have or want advanced astronomical knowledge is to "communicate with the Star People." Here's a simpler explanation: it was the dawn of agriculture. Farmers need to know when to plant and when to harvest, so they need a calendar, and they need to know when to expect solstices and equinoxes and plan their crops accordingly. Ever look at a Farmer's Almanac....? Not exactly hi-tech stuff, but it's filled with astronomical info that's important to the planting and harvesting season.

 

[Blue Sugar]

You know, I'm excited for Prometheus, but I'm really getting tired of people bashing other movies in order to make a movie like this one look good.

Hell, I've read that people who have been to screenings of The Avengers say that it's a great, entertaining film with lots of action and great chemistry and interaction between all of the characters.

Oh I so agree. I hate that to some it seems impossible that several of these big films can be loved and/or liked by one person.

It might turn out that I really like and/or love all of these big nerdy genrefilms coming out. The Avengers, Prometheus, The Amazing Spider-Man and The Dark Knight Rises . I mean at this point with all the trailers out it seems more likely than not.

And I will hate all the comparisons, taking sides and team this, team that.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

"I don't know; therefore, aliens"


"Sometimes" it goes over the top...?? I think it *always* goes over the top. The speculation is always fun, but these guys seem totally incapable of using words like "maybe," "could be," and "possibly"....instead, they deal in absolutes. Like it's common knowledge that the aliens were here and did this and did that.

There's plenty of mysteries in the ancient world, but quite a bit of this is just simply modern man completely underestimating ancient man. For instance, whenever someone discovers that an ancient site has very definite astronomical and calendrical qualities to it (Stonehenge, Copan and the like), they automatically jump to the conclusion that the only reason humans could have or want advanced astronomical knowledge is to "communicate with the Star People." Here's a simpler explanation: it was the dawn of agriculture. Farmers need to know when to plant and when to harvest, so they need a calendar, and they need to know when to expect solstices and equinoxes and plan their crops accordingly. Ever look at a Farmer's Almanac....? Not exactly hi-tech stuff, but it's filled with astronomical info that's important to the planting and harvesting season.

No, I completely understand, albeit I am a 'believer' in the ancient astronaut theory. The panel of experts featured on the show can be a little out there, but when I do watch the show I tend to formulate my own theories, and objectively view their theories. I do miss the critic section of the show though.

It's difficult NOT to underestimate man, especially in ancient times. Now, I'm not saying everything that is a mystery is because of 'aliens' but, for instance, removing brain tumors successfully with stone tools and without the aid of X-Rays is a bit too 'impressive' for a farming society in the Pre-Colombian Era.

I'd like to think that our ancestors were this naturally gifted in the science and medical field, but there's a few things out there that make stand up from your seat and question whether or not man was capable of such things without the aid of technology and modern knowledge.

 

[The Morningstar]

I believe in the theory of evolution. I also believe that we must have had a "helping hand" along the way.

And like Scott says, the idea that we, mankind, are the only intelligent lifeform in he universe is incredibly arrogant and small minded. I think there is more chance of there being another civilisation somewhere out there than not.

 

[regwec]

It might be small minded to suppose that there are no other intelligent lifeforms, but is fantasy to imagine that human civilization is the work of alien beings. The statistical likelihood of Earth ever being visited by beings from another planet is so remote that it makes you begin to laugh out loud when you consider it- and then remember that there is absolutely no physical evidence to support the hypothesis.

The fact is that human technology and learning has reached peaks and troughs roughly conforming to the economic and social security of sedentary populations. You need human and material resources, as well as time and intellectual freedom in order to advance science and experimentation. Populations that exist on the verge cannot spare these resources from the daily toil for survival. Socially settled, surplus producing civilizations like Old Kingdom Egypt, Imperial Rome or ancient China were able to foster an elite with time and money on their hands which could be spent in intellectual pursuits or in constructing megalithic architecture. But civilization is fragile: famine, plague, genocide and social strife can erupt at any time, and wash away all the progress- Western Europe became a materially and intellectually poorer place after the fall of Rome. Medieval Christianity held medical science back for centuries by forbidding dissection. This is why ancient peoples can appear to be more advanced than they 'should' have been during their time, and more advanced than their later successors: the conditions were right.

There's plenty of mysteries in the ancient world, but quite a bit of this is just simply modern man completely underestimating ancient man. For instance, whenever someone discovers that an ancient site has very definite astronomical and calendrical qualities to it (Stonehenge, Copan and the like), they automatically jump to the conclusion that the only reason humans could have or want advanced astronomical knowledge is to "communicate with the Star People." Here's a simpler explanation: it was the dawn of agriculture. Farmers need to know when to plant and when to harvest, so they need a calendar, and they need to know when to expect solstices and equinoxes and plan their crops accordingly. Ever look at a Farmer's Almanac....? Not exactly hi-tech stuff, but it's filled with astronomical info that's important to the planting and harvesting season.

An excellent post: it is heartening to see reason in use here.

 

[The Morningstar]

Well yes of course the whole "visitation" thing is only a theory. How long has Earth been around though? Billions of years? If there was a civilisation a billion years ago there probably wouldn't be evidence of it now.

But let's just say Earth is a single grain of sand in the Sahara Desert. I think it's stupid to say that our little grain of sand is the only one in the whole desert that has life or some kind of civilisation. It's actually absurd if you think about it.

 

[regwec]

I certainly wouldn't suggest that is. The truth is that we have very little understanding of how adaptable 'life' might be. There might even be microbes beneath the sands of Mars, and who knows how far you need to go to find something that walks and talks?

But while the size and scale of the universe makes the existence of life extremely likely, it also makes the probability of it having visited us extraordinarily unlikely, because the distances involved are mind boggling and our solar system has total anonymity amongst all the billions of others.

 

[The Morningstar]

Indeed. It is interesting to think about. That's why i'm so interested in this film.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

It might be small minded to suppose that there are no other intelligent lifeforms, but is fantasy to imagine that human civilization is the work of alien beings. The statistical likelihood of Earth ever being visited by beings from another planet is so remote that it makes you begin to laugh out loud when you consider it- and then remember that there is absolutely no physical evidence to support the hypothesis.

Damn, then I'd like to see the statistics for a giant bearded man in the sky declaring 'let there be light' or 'life, finds a way'.

You can disagree with theories revolving around ancient astronauts lending a helping hand in evolution and/or ancient societies, but that's just your critical observation/opinion.

Scientists still aren't certain on how micro-organisms just happened to come into existence on Earth. A popular theory, nowadays, is asteroids or meteorites containing these organisms/bacteria were onboard when they smacked into our planet. Hell, the field's best theory as to how the universe began (The Big Bang) is now starting to have skeptics.

I mean, even Einstein's statistics indicating that nothing in the universe could move faster than the speed of light were debunked with the discovery of Tachyonic-Neutrinos.

 

[The Morningstar]

The moral of the story is... us humans are insignificant and our knowledge of how the universe works is extremely limited.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

The moral of the story is... us humans are insignificant and our knowledge of how the universe works is extremely limited.

Exactly. I've longed accepted that us humans may never know the secrets of the universe. And even if we do, we may never grasp the answers. Perhaps the answers are just beyond our understanding.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yup, it's the whole Lovecraftian angle. Some things are just beyond human comprehension.

I find it funny when people are like "Oh there can't be any other life out there, because we know that bla bla bla is needed for life to evolve".

Yea, how do we know that? These "rules" of evolution and how life starts and how the universe works are just man made rules. Theories created by man.

 

[Kane52630]

http://arco2002.deviantart.com/art/Big-Things-294312440

 

[The Morningstar]

Very cool. Is it the same guy who does all those retro style posters Kane?

 

[Kane52630]

Very cool. Is it the same guy who does all those retro style posters Kane?

The art deco Batman posters? nah that's from rodolforever.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Yup, it's the whole Lovecraftian angle. Some things are just beyond human comprehension.

I find it funny when people are like "Oh there can't be any other life out there, because we know that bla bla bla is needed for life to evolve".

Yea, how do we know that? These "rules" of evolution and how life starts and how the universe works are just man made rules. Theories created by man.

That's my sentiment.

I consider myself an open-minded individual, so other theories don't bother me. What bothers me is the dismissal of intelligent life outside or within our own galaxy. We're human, our theories are not absolute.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Finally saw the trailer on the big screen. It looked even more phenomenal. This movie is gonna blow peoples minds.