Prometheus - Part 9

[bullets]

where they explore the theme or where its just part of the story that we are connected ?

I'll take both.

 

[dark_b]

is this some trick question where you are try to see if i know about any movies?

because you watched them. this is SHH.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[dark_b]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts_in_popular_culture#Movies_and_television_series

we are talking about aliens having something to do with human life. those are just aliens on earth. not enough

 

[Mandalore464]

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[dark_b]

A lot of them talk about just that.

i know that they are good examples. but they are not good enough for the prometheus defenders.

 

[craigdbfan]

Only one of those has the "aliens" directly creating human life and that is Neon Genesis Evangelion which isn't a movie but an anime.

we are talking about aliens having something to do with human life. those are just aliens on earth. not enough

You just proved Bullets point. Prometheus explores concepts that are seldom (if ever) explored by a giant American blockbuster.

The only series that remotely explores similar ideas and themes is Neon Genesis Evangelion and that's a very elaborate Japanese piece of animation which was a t.v series.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[dark_b]

i wonder if the other ships were also under a temple. and if there they also had cargo. maybe on different locations they worked on different experiments.

what if prometheus crew just landed next to the wrong ship? wrong time at a wrong place hehehe


p.s.: i only now realized that both humans and engineer have a ship where they can sleep for years. hyper sleep. good connection.

 

[regwec]

I think there is a small misunderstanding here. The term "original script" doesn't tend to be used to mean that every idea within it is original and has not been explored or referenced anywhere else- that it obviously impossible. What it is usually taken to mean is that the particular story doesn't exist elsewhere other than in the script or in the movie. Most movies nowadays are by-the-numbers adaptations of comicbooks, videogames or teen novels; or remakes of other movies. Prometheus doesn't entirely escape the taint, because it is a loose prequel, but it is the looseness of that relationship which has annoyed a lot of its detractors.

Frankly, for me, one "Prometheus" is worth about forty "Avengers", and I would happily sacrifice every single one of the next ten years' inevitable superhero sequels/reboots/remakes in order to guarantee seeing "Paradise", even if "Paradise" turned out to be a total disappointment.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[regwec]

Yeah, but I think it may have been a flap of my wings that precipitated the hurricane, when I said that Prometheus was an original script that took some risks.

 

[dark_b]

Frankly, for me, one "Prometheus" is worth about forty "Avengers", and I would happily sacrifice every single one of the next ten years' inevitable superhero sequels/reboots/remakes in order to guarantee seeing "Paradise", even if "Paradise" turned out to be a total disappointment.

i ..........think............... i agree yes i do

plus even if you throw out all the alien visuals it still looks original. cinematography,.... i liked avengers. but it looks it looks 100% like a studio movie. i don think there was one original shot in the movie. i mean cinematography and lighting. everything is industry standard. the same with Snow White. every shot was 100% cliche and a copy. MEEEEEEEEEH

 

[bullets]

I'm really hoping Ridley makes his 'Paradise'. I'd rather see him go there than back to the Blade Runner.

Oh but I am one.

I also think that everything's been done or addressed before. You can't really come up with a brand new original subject. The only thing that matters then is how you deal with it, and what you say through it.

Yes, It's difficult to be wholly original when everything has been done before. So there's definitely an importance in how you approach the material. Prometheus is a prequel but it's far more original to me than most franchises because it goes in a different direction than expected.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think there is a small misunderstanding here. The term "original script" doesn't tend to be used to mean that every idea within it is original and has not been explored or referenced anywhere else- that it obviously impossible. What it is usually taken to mean is that the particular story doesn't exist elsewhere other than in the script or in the movie. Most movies nowadays are by-the-numbers adaptations of comicbooks, videogames or teen novels; or remakes of other movies. Prometheus doesn't entirely escape the taint, because it is a loose prequel, but it is the looseness of that relationship which has annoyed a lot of its detractors.

Frankly, for me, one "Prometheus" is worth about forty "Avengers", and I would happily sacrifice every single one of the next ten years' inevitable superhero sequels/reboots/remakes in order to guarantee seeing "Paradise", even if "Paradise" turned out to be a total disappointment.

If Prometheus was truly original you wouldn't have the "get caught in the storm" scene or the "two idiots get randomly lost" scene. They even did the android montage.

The actual subject matter isn't really that original and the execution most certainly is not.

I'm really hoping Ridley makes his 'Paradise'. I'd rather see him go there than back to the Blade Runner.






Yes, It's difficult to be wholly original when everything has been done before. So there's definitely an importance in how you approach the material. Prometheus is a prequel but it's far more original to me than most franchises because it goes in a different direction than expected.

In what way?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

But you admitted yourself it was inaccurate.

I totally respect your opinions on the movie, but you really don't have the intangables to pull off the pretentious prick persona.

Ikki is character who ask a lot of random questions in a comedic fashion. Prometheus does the same, but I don't find it all that funny. There are also many other things that are quite likable about Ikki.

 

[regwec]

If Prometheus was truly original you wouldn't have the "get caught in the storm" scene or the "two idiots get randomly lost" scene. They even did the android montage.

The actual subject matter isn't really that original and the execution most certainly is not.

You have flung yourself cheerfully into the mire of the very misunderstanding that my post was intended to clear up.

Again: obviously, it is impossible for everything about a screenplay/script/movie to be "original", in the sense that nothing like it has been seen before. But, if the content is not adapted from elsewhere, then it can still be said to be "original" in the form it is in.

So, "Alien", "Prometheus", "Terminator", and "King Kong" (Cooper/Schoedsack) were original screen plays/scripts/movies. "Twilight", "The Avengers", "Harry Potter" and "King Kong" (Peter Jackson) are not.

I would like there to be more original movies, and for studios to entrust decent budgets to them.

Even though Prometheus' content is not altogether original, it is at least relatively "unusual" for a Hollywood movie, and that can only be a good thing.

 

[spider-neil]

Frankly, for me, one "Prometheus" is worth about forty "Avengers", and I would happily sacrifice every single one of the next ten years' inevitable superhero sequels/reboots/remakes in order to guarantee seeing "Paradise", even if "Paradise" turned out to be a total disappointment.

I love Prometheus but I wouldn't go that far. I want to see Thanos, Mysterio, Riddler, Surter, etc.

 

[DACrowe]

If Prometheus was truly original you wouldn't have the "get caught in the storm" scene or the "two idiots get randomly lost" scene. They even did the android montage.

The actual subject matter isn't really that original and the execution most certainly is not.



In what way?

Out of curiosity what is the "android montage?"

If you mean the introductory scene to David, I haven't seen one like that before. And it was great to see that character watch them sleep and watch Lawrence of Arabia. A very clever sequence.

 

[TheOnlyOmega]

Out of curiosity what is the "android montage?"

If you mean the introductory scene to David, I haven't seen one like that before. And it was great to see that character watch them sleep and watch Lawrence of Arabia. A very clever sequence.

That sequence made me like David. Just chillin and shootin hoops for two years

 

[Destructus86]

Who cares about originality. I don't.

 

[regwec]

Me. And most people, I think. Don't you hate the feeling you get when you watch a by-the-numbers Hollywood blockbuster, and you realise that you have seen all of it before? I am afraid to say that the saturation of the Superhero genre has made this worse than ever.

 

[TheOnlyOmega]

Me. And most people, I think. Don't you hate the feeling you get when you watch a by-the-numbers Hollywood blockbuster, and you realise that you have seen all of it before? I am afraid to say that the saturation of the Superhero genre has made this worse than ever.

This may not be a popular opinion around here, but the superhero movie origin formula is just terrible now. Origin movies are exactly the same flick but with a different buff dude in a different costume.

 

[spider-neil]

It's not originality, it's presention. Every idea has pretty much been done, it's how you present those ideas.

 

[CConn]

It's not originality, it's presention. Every idea has pretty much been done, it's how you present those ideas.

Yeah, but still, the plot formula that started with STM has become so over used that even when it is done extremely well and in a very inventive way (say, Batman Begins), it still comes off as overused and tiresome. There's just a limit to how many times a singular plot structure can be repeated.