Prometheus - Part 9

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If David was going to mess with anyone on the ship because he didn't like them it would of been Vickers. She treats David far worst than Holloway does.
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Debatable.

Holloway was as much of a cock to him as Vickers was.
 
^Not sure what is confirmed yet, looking forward to seeing it though, I loved the movie anyway.
 
I felt that he kind of considered Vickers his big sister almost, considering how Weyland treated them both. so he wasn't about to disappoint Daddy by doing that.
 
Yeah, no way he'd harm Vickers, if she was daughter of the man he practically worshipped.

Also, Holloway was unique in having his life partner on board, that it allowed David to witness his experiment in several stages: the primary infected, the primary infected transmitting via sexual intercourse, and the impact of the infected on reproduction.
 
Holloway was mean to David, is the only one on the boat who is as fanatical as Weyland about finding something about creating life on this planet/moon and in some ways he was obsessed with Shaw, so he wanted to see Holloway go away.

Just some ideas about what caused that.
 
Has anyone adressed the fact Scott said in an interview posted on Joblo.com that there would be no director's cut? He went on to say he was happy with the current runtime and the way the film is. It was posted just before the films release.

"No, I think this is a good length. But that said, I think that now the fashion of actually putting out a couple of discs is here to stay, which will comfort you on all other kinds of conversation about how the movie was made. All you’ll really do is see extended scenes in the menu. Other than that I think this is a pretty good length, the dynamics of this are about right."
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http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/jimmyo-asks-sir-ridley-scott-if-prometheus-will-have-a-directors-cut
 
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I stumbled upon "Prometheus: The Art of the Film" in a book shop today. It is an interesting read. It does suggest that a lot of open-ended plot points were quite deliberately left ambiguous, rather than being the result of "lazy writing". We're not supposed to have a firm idea of the precise properties of the black ooze, for instance, and the Deacon is meant to foreshadow the Xenomorph rather than be its exact ancestor.

I also bought "The Book of Alien", which has been in print for a long time. I used to own a copy years ago, but it was borrowed and never returned. There is a page or two in it devoted to (unused) Space Jockey hieroglyphs as designed by H. Giger. They show the Xenomorph reproductive cycle in precise detail from egg to chest-bursting. This would seem to indicate that the Engineers were indeed building towards this perfect organism, and the weapons base we discover together in 'Prometheus' uses either an archaic or further refined version of the organism. I would suggest its the former, mostly because the bio-mechanical design of the ship and Space Jockey from "Alien" seems much further advanced than the technology in "Prometheus".
 
Prometheus is 73% (fresh) on Rotten Tomatoes.
That's pretty solid if you ask me.
 
if people hate a movie and it has 80% its not enough. i dont care about reviews
 
Nor should you, but it is no more true to say that Prometheus was a critical failure than it is to imply that it is a commercial failure.
 
regwec said:
I stumbled upon "Prometheus: The Art of the Film" in a book shop today. It is an interesting read. It does suggest that a lot of open-ended plot points were quite deliberately left ambiguous, rather than being the result of "lazy writing". We're not supposed to have a firm idea of the precise properties of the black ooze, for instance, and the Deacon is meant to foreshadow the Xenomorph rather than be its exact ancestor.
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I figured this was the case the moment the film reached its destination. Critics of Prometheus, of course, will attribute the 'lack' of answers and the endorsement of ambiguity to ****ty writing, but contrary to their opinions so much was left unanswered. Ridley didn't shy away or cloud the audience's judgement with inconsistencies. He left us clues to soak in.

I also bought "The Book of Alien", which has been in print for a long time. I used to own a copy years ago, but it was borrowed and never returned. There is a page or two in it devoted to (unused) Space Jockey hieroglyphs as designed by H. Giger. They show the Xenomorph reproductive cycle in precise detail from egg to chest-bursting. This would seem to indicate that the Engineers were indeed building towards this perfect organism, and the weapons base we discover together in 'Prometheus' uses either an archaic or further refined version of the organism. I would suggest its the former, mostly because the bio-mechanical design of the ship and Space Jockey from "Alien" seems much further advanced than the technology in "Prometheus".
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Do you know if it's still available on the market?
 
DoomsdayApex said:
I figured this was the case the moment the film reached its destination. Critics of Prometheus, of course, will attribute the 'lack' of answers and the endorsement of ambiguity to ****ty writing, but contrary to their opinions so much was left unanswered. Ridley didn't shy away or cloud the audience's judgement with inconsistencies. He left us clues to soak in.
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Exactly, he isnt going to spoon feed all the answers and totally de-mystify the alien as that would ruin the original movies. I loved Prometheus and the way it left some things to our imagination, mine is still racing 2 weeks after seeing it.
 
The same thing about the mysteries can be applied to Lost, another Lindelof co-creation. People argue they didn't give us any answers. The truth is, they DID gave us clues, a lot of clues, so we can put together the answers. They didn't throw the answers to our faces, and I appreciate that. I appreciate when the writers respect the audience, make them think for themselves. Prometheus works the same way, for me. And if they expand their ideas into a sequel, looking back is gonna be more appreciated. Or at least, that's what I'm hoping.
 
Did you guys hear about the ticket clerk in Seattle who was telling all the audience members "I have to warn you... Halfway through the movie, the main female character will perform a self-induced abortion." as they walked in?
 
I would of asked for my money back for him spoiling the film.
 
Mandalore464 said:
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It has begun...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...dia-mans-eye/2012/07/02/gJQAHn0qIW_video.html
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This was more unnerving than anything in the film. Holy ****ing ****. ****. I mean... just ****.

I'm going to go wash my eyes with bleach now.
 
Saw this the other day. A lot of the mysteries layered in the story didn't bother me. What did bother me was the stupidity and weak characterizations of a lot, well, most of the characters. It's night and day when you compare it to Alien, in which the entire cast felt like real human beings with believable actions.
 
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