Psych

[TheCorpulent1]

The final scene of the series should be Shawn on his deathbed with Jules, both all old and craggy after decades of long, happy marriage, then Shawn turns to her and goes, "Hey, Jules, by the way..."

 

[Doctor Jones]

Haha, that would be great!

 

[Artistsean]

[BLACKOUT]just had an idea, what if Mr. yang (the serial killer from the last season finally) was that guy who pretended to be a profiler. He was stealing Shawn's thunder the entire episode, and now stole Jules. What if he is actually Mr. Yang. Or was it Mr. Yin?[/BLACKOUT]

Anyone know that song the guy from Tears for Fears was singing at the end, something about he had a gift for problem solving or something.
Is that a new song of theirs or is it something for the show? Or something old that I just don't remember?

 

[Matt]

Hmm, interesting theory, but I don't think its right. The body type is very dissimiliar. The profiler was a thin man. Mr. Yin was a bit heavy set.

My money is on Woody the Coroner. He has appeared just enough that it would shock the audience and he knows Shawn well enough for it to make sense. Plus the body types are similiar.

Kurt Fuller, has a similiar heavy set body type.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

But I like the Coroner

 

[Artistsean]

which is why it would make sense too. they introduce the coroner a while ago, and then reveal much later that he is the bad guy.
I can see that.

anyone know about the song?

 

[Doctor Jones]

I remember the theory. It would be sad if it turns out to be true. I love that guy.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Woody can't be a bad guy. He's far too awesome.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Well, he at least has a motive. His wife is cheating on an all star college lacrosse player.

I don't know, I hope he's not Yin.

 

[Artistsean]

Whether he is or not, he is a nice addition to the cast. Which is why it would make sense that for him to turn out to be the bad guy.
the reason I thought it might be the new guy Jules is dating is because he swoops in, steals Shawn's thunder all over the place during the case. Shawn finds out he is a fraud, and he still is stealing his thunder. Then he steals Jules. So he isn't going away any time soon.
The actor is sort of big enough, he was the Mayor in Dark Knight, Bat-Manuel in Tick, a regular on Suddenly Susan. So he is sort of big enough.
The biggest reason though is last season's finally showed that this Mr. Yin is smarter than Shawn or is as smart anyway. He has also been following Shawn and watching him. Then this new guys shows up who is "Shawn 2.0" So the show introduces this bad guy last season who is sort of Shawn's equal, then this guy shows up who is also Shawn's equal.
But it makes more sense for it to be the coroner.
I can see the show trying to make that new guy look like the logical Mr. Yin, but just being a Red Herring and maybe even getting real serious with Jules and finally getting killed by Mr. Yin when the team thinks they are finally closing in on the new guy (thinking he is Mr. Yin).
Then the coroner finally revealing himself as the real equal of Shawn, Mr. Yin, and not the weird and sort of silly Coroner they all though the was.
Plus the coroner is a much bigger star, being in Ghost Busters and all his other things.

 

[carrrnuttt]

The actor is sort of big enough, he was the Mayor in Dark Knight, Bat-Manuel in Tick, a regular on Suddenly Susan. So he is sort of big enough.

You never watched Lost, did you?

 

[Asgard]

The actor is sort of big enough, he was the Mayor in Dark Knight, Bat-Manuel in Tick, a regular on Suddenly Susan. So he is sort of big enough.

I dont get this part of your post...

 

[John Locke]

I dont get this part of your post...

He thought that when you guys said he was big enough he thought you meant Nestor (Profiler) was not a big enough actor but really you meant Nestor was not big enough size wise.

 

[Artistsean]

No, I never saw a single episode of Last, but that's another good example of a show he was in.

What I meant about his level of fame is, on a TV show you can tell when an actor is going to have a larger part by how famous they are some times. Like you watch a murder mystery show and you see an actor you remember seeing in a few other shows and maybe a movie or two,
you know that actor will play a larger role than just the cop or just the guy who sells guns in his shop.
For example, the other day I saw this cop show. This body is found and the cops are brought in, they are questioning people and I spotted this actress I remember seeing in a few movies.
Later she is reveled as the killer.
You see a cop show like Psych, and you see the guy who played Red Foreman on that 70s Show, you know he will have a much larger role than just a guy who finds the body.

So what I meant was, making this guy Mr. Yin, he is is known well enough for it to work. But the other actor who plays the coroner would work too because he too is well enough known.

They wouldn't just reveal that Mr. Yin is some unknown actor, then again they wouldn't just reveal him to be a well known actor we haven't seen on the show before either. (if they showed some unknown enough times, like the big dumb "Bull from Nightcourt" cop would work because the audiance knows him.
So I guess level of fame isn't really a factor.

 

[Matt]

Well, he at least has a motive. His wife is cheating on an all star college lacrosse player.

I don't know, I hope he's not Yin.

I like the idea of it being Woody. The fact that the audience has connected to him makes the revelation that much more heart wrenching. Plus, it makes Yin that much more brilliant. Woody is essentially an idiot who claps his hand for Shawn's little show. He feeds right into Shawn's ego (his one weakness), causing Shawn to tip his hand to him. It makes Yin pretty damn brilliant.

 

[Wyrminarrd]

I´m not a fan of the coroner being the serial killer since Shawn seems to be way to familiar with him and his personal life and should therefore have picked up something by now. That said, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he turns out to be the killer, it makes sense considering the screen time he gets and the effort to keep the identity of Yin a secret.

If Yin is the coroner then he has by now figured out that Shawn isn't psychic since a real psychic would have picked up on his identity a long time ago. Which actually made me think about the line he had in the episode "I don't know how you do it" or something like that. If he is trying to map out Shawn before striking again then it adds a more ominous subtext to that scene.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I like the idea of it being Woody. The fact that the audience has connected to him makes the revelation that much more heart wrenching. Plus, it makes Yin that much more brilliant. Woody is essentially an idiot who claps his hand for Shawn's little show. He feeds right into Shawn's ego (his one weakness), causing Shawn to tip his hand to him. It makes Yin pretty damn brilliant.

Dammit man, you keep giving more convincing evidence.

But would it make sense for a new guy to reveal himself? Someone we've never even encountered on the show?

The ending to the finale is still confusing as hell. How would Shawn not remember Yang from back when he was a kid? And what the hell does Yin have to do with it? Maybe he was the guy taking the picture of Shawn and Yang?

 

[Doctor Jones]

I like the idea of it being Woody. The fact that the audience has connected to him makes the revelation that much more heart wrenching. Plus, it makes Yin that much more brilliant. Woody is essentially an idiot who claps his hand for Shawn's little show. He feeds right into Shawn's ego (his one weakness), causing Shawn to tip his hand to him. It makes Yin pretty damn brilliant.

Dammit man, you keep giving more convincing evidence.

But would it make sense for a new guy to reveal himself? Someone we've never even encountered on the show?

The ending to the finale is still confusing as hell. How would Shawn not remember Yang from back when he was a kid? And what the hell does Yin have to do with it? Maybe he was the guy taking the picture of Shawn and Yang?

 

[Artistsean]

Dammit man, you keep giving more convincing evidence.

But would it make sense for a new guy to reveal himself? Someone we've never even encountered on the show?

The ending to the finale is still confusing as hell. How would Shawn not remember Yang from back when he was a kid? And what the hell does Yin have to do with it? Maybe he was the guy taking the picture of Shawn and Yang?

What do you mean why doesn't Shawn remember Yang from when he was a kid? I don't remember that part.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Sure, at the end of the finale, young Shawn was in the same picture with Yang. He has a photographic memory. Wouldn't he have recognized her?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I like the idea of it being Woody. The fact that the audience has connected to him makes the revelation that much more heart wrenching. Plus, it makes Yin that much more brilliant. Woody is essentially an idiot who claps his hand for Shawn's little show. He feeds right into Shawn's ego (his one weakness), causing Shawn to tip his hand to him. It makes Yin pretty damn brilliant.

It would piss me off mainly because that's not the kind of show Psych is to me. It's a fun, comfortably familiar show that I know what to expect from at this point. I don't want to have to deal with a very endearing new addition to the cast turning out to be a sociopathic serial killer; I just want a good mystery and a few good laughs. They pulled that same basic twist with Craig a couple episodes ago and it bugged me until he ultimately did the right thing and redeemed himself.

 

[John Locke]

I'm fine with it being Woody because I don't want Mr. Yin to be another Trudy's killer.

 

[echostation]

who is Trudy and what is this killer business ilahi you speak of... this is PSYCHE

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I'm fine with it being Woody because I don't want Mr. Yin to be another Trudy's killer.

That would have been better than what they actually made it in Monk.

 

[Matt]

It would piss me off mainly because that's not the kind of show Psych is to me. It's a fun, comfortably familiar show that I know what to expect from at this point. I don't want to have to deal with a very endearing new addition to the cast turning out to be a sociopathic serial killer; I just want a good mystery and a few good laughs. They pulled that same basic twist with Craig a couple episodes ago and it bugged me until he ultimately did the right thing and redeemed himself.

The thing is, it all comes down to the writing. It could be both funny and light while also dramatic. If done well, it could be brilliant.

who is Trudy and what is this killer business ilahi you speak of... this is PSYCHE

Trudy's killer, was throughout the entire series of Monk, there was a running mystery of who murdered Monk's wife. Then in the series finale, when it was resolved, it was just some random guy played by Craig T. Nelson who we've never seen before who the writers tried to tack on some backstory for and fail. I think what Locke is saying is that he does not want Yin to be something similiar where its just some random guy.