Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

[DACrowe]

I mean lots of legendary and acclaimed directors are infamous for mistreating their actors and treating them roughly and not making sure they were taken care of and safe on set.

See Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, etc. Not sure it was as far as or similar to this case, but there have been well documented incidents.

I mean go back and look at Wizard of Oz, all sorts of things that were massively unsafe in that production.

Yes, this is a paradigm shift. None of this is condoning Tarantino, but just some interesting things to remember, which probably only fueled an ego like Tarantino's.

Not even looking at the allegations against Hitch by Tippi Hedren, he undeniably tortured her on the set of The Birds by throwing live and fake birds at her to the point of physical and mental exhaustion, and a near breakdown. He also drove Janet Leigh to a near breaking point in the shower scene of Psycho, although Leigh seemed to say she was more supportive of it.

William Friedkin did permanent damage to Ellen Burstyn's back on the set of The Exorcist because he personally pulled the pulley so hard that yanked her back during one of the possession scenes. He also fired a live gun in a priest's ear to rattle him enough to do a scene where a friend died.

John Ford verbally abused John Wayne on nearly every set, especially after the war because he judged Wayne as being a coward for not serving like Pappi did. He also got physically violent with Henry Fonda and Maureen O'Hara, punching out the former during a shoot that was the end of their professional relationship.

David O. Russell... where to begin? He got in a fist fight with George Clooney on Three Kings, verbally and emotionally abused Lily Tomlin on I Heart Huckabees, attacked Christopher Nolan at a party, and verbally abused Amy Adams on American Hustle. And that's just the stuff we've heard about!

... It's really an endemic part of movie culture. But I think what Uma's letter might do is change that. Going after Harvey is needed. But while that monster is down, I think Uma might have just awakened an issue with directors and "artists" in general that could be scheduled to change in the next chapter of the #MeToo movement.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes, this is a paradigm shift. None of this is condoning Tarantino, but just some interesting things to remember, which probably only fueled an ego like Tarantino's.

Not even looking at the allegations against Hitch by Tippi Hedren, he undeniably tortured her on the set of The Birds by throwing live and fake birds at her to the point of physical and mental exhaustion, and a near breakdown. He also drove Janet Leigh to a near breaking point in the shower scene of Psycho, although Leigh seemed to say she was more supportive of it.

William Friedkin did permanent damage to Ellen Burstyn's back on the set of The Exorcist because he personally pulled the pulley so hard that yanked her back during one of the possession scenes. He also fired a live gun in a priest's ear to rattle him enough to do a scene where a friend died.

John Ford verbally abused John Wayne on nearly every set, especially after the war because he judged Wayne as being a coward for not serving like Pappi did. He also got physically violent with Henry Fonda and Maureen O'Hara, punching out the former during a shoot that was the end of their professional relationship.

David O. Russell... where to begin? He got in a fist fight with George Clooney on Three Kings, verbally and emotionally abused Lily Tomlin on I Heart Huckabees, attacked Christopher Nolan at a party, and verbally abused Amy Adams on American Hustle. And that's just the stuff we've heard about!

... It's really an endemic part of movie culture. But I think what Uma's letter might do is change that. Going after Harvey is needed. But while that monster is down, I think Uma might have just awakened an issue with directors and "artists" in general that could be scheduled to change in the next chapter of the #MeToo movement.

Sexually assaulting his niece.

 

[redhawk23]

That doesn't mean he's looking to personally injure someone. Directors get hands on all the time in their shots to make it look right in their minds. You can't just make assumptions that because someone personally had a hand in creating the shot they have ill will towards the actor or stuntman or whoever.

Perhaps not ill will but a blatant disregard and negligence do not have to be inferred.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yes, this is a paradigm shift. None of this is condoning Tarantino, but just some interesting things to remember, which probably only fueled an ego like Tarantino's.

Not even looking at the allegations against Hitch by Tippi Hedren, he undeniably tortured her on the set of The Birds by throwing live and fake birds at her to the point of physical and mental exhaustion, and a near breakdown. He also drove Janet Leigh to a near breaking point in the shower scene of Psycho, although Leigh seemed to say she was more supportive of it.

William Friedkin did permanent damage to Ellen Burstyn's back on the set of The Exorcist because he personally pulled the pulley so hard that yanked her back during one of the possession scenes. He also fired a live gun in a priest's ear to rattle him enough to do a scene where a friend died.

John Ford verbally abused John Wayne on nearly every set, especially after the war because he judged Wayne as being a coward for not serving like Pappi did. He also got physically violent with Henry Fonda and Maureen O'Hara, punching out the former during a shoot that was the end of their professional relationship.

David O. Russell... where to begin? He got in a fist fight with George Clooney on Three Kings, verbally and emotionally abused Lily Tomlin on I Heart Huckabees, attacked Christopher Nolan at a party, and verbally abused Amy Adams on American Hustle. And that's just the stuff we've heard about!

... It's really an endemic part of movie culture. But I think what Uma's letter might do is change that. Going after Harvey is needed. But while that monster is down, I think Uma might have just awakened an issue with directors and "artists" in general that could be scheduled to change in the next chapter of the #MeToo movement.

If it means putting safety watchdogs on set, I say do it.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yes, this is a paradigm shift. None of this is condoning Tarantino, but just some interesting things to remember, which probably only fueled an ego like Tarantino's.

Not even looking at the allegations against Hitch by Tippi Hedren, he undeniably tortured her on the set of The Birds by throwing live and fake birds at her to the point of physical and mental exhaustion, and a near breakdown. He also drove Janet Leigh to a near breaking point in the shower scene of Psycho, although Leigh seemed to say she was more supportive of it.

William Friedkin did permanent damage to Ellen Burstyn's back on the set of The Exorcist because he personally pulled the pulley so hard that yanked her back during one of the possession scenes. He also fired a live gun in a priest's ear to rattle him enough to do a scene where a friend died.

John Ford verbally abused John Wayne on nearly every set, especially after the war because he judged Wayne as being a coward for not serving like Pappi did. He also got physically violent with Henry Fonda and Maureen O'Hara, punching out the former during a shoot that was the end of their professional relationship.

David O. Russell... where to begin? He got in a fist fight with George Clooney on Three Kings, verbally and emotionally abused Lily Tomlin on I Heart Huckabees, attacked Christopher Nolan at a party, and verbally abused Amy Adams on American Hustle. And that's just the stuff we've heard about!

... It's really an endemic part of movie culture. But I think what Uma's letter might do is change that. Going after Harvey is needed. But while that monster is down, I think Uma might have just awakened an issue with directors and "artists" in general that could be scheduled to change in the next chapter of the #MeToo movement.

The other thing I want to say, what about the unions? I mean these professions are all unionized. Why are SAG not saying or doing anything? I mean in today's day and age isn't the type of stuff they are supposed to guard against?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Perhaps not ill will but a blatant disregard and negligence do not have to be inferred.

Yep.

 

[Doctor Jones]

The thing that hasn't been talked about yet is other types of abuse that is incredibly rampant and normalized in this industry. It's part of the culture to be abused pretty much. Pay your dues seems synonymous with being debased and treated like absolute **** by superiors who get off on holding their power over you. It's the next thing that needs to be addressed badly because you will not believe how common this is. You have a good chance of getting a terrible boss. It's not a bad luck of the draw like most industries. Here it's tolerated and it's still tolerated even now. This needs to be monitored and accountability needs to happen.

It's one of the reasons I'm skeptical of people supporting this movement in the industry. It's all because people found out. These powerful enlightened people didn't do a thing. At times it's complicated and grey but its not enough to make it a whole excuse.

 

[jmc]

Perhaps not ill will but a blatant disregard and negligence do not have to be inferred.

Which is a fine summary of the events, but lets not confuse neglect in shooting with intent to do harm.

 

[dark_b]

look at the video. 0:14-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqS8aVCBHG4
You need a professional driver to drive on that road with uneven ground and at f... 64 kmh. Everyone 100% knew that this would happen. there was zero chance she was finishing that shot without any problems.

Actors dont drive 40 miles per hour on empty roads inside the city when filming . F... were they stupid

 

[OutOfBoose]

That doesn't mean he's looking to personally injure someone. Directors get hands on all the time in their shots to make it look right in their minds. You can't just make assumptions that because someone personally had a hand in creating the shot they have ill will towards the actor or stuntman or whoever.

 

[Aximili86]

Heh, hadn't heard about Russell attacking Nolan before. What was all that over?

 

[terry78]

Then you're gonna get complaints about this stifling their creativity or something.

 

[redhawk23]

Which is a fine summary of the events, but lets not confuse neglect in shooting with intent to do harm.

No one is, and that isn't what Thurman said.

 

[DACrowe]

Sexually assaulting his niece.

.... I didn't know that one. Now I have to put his movies in the same box I put Polanski and Kevin Spacey films.

 

[DACrowe]

Heh, hadn't heard about Russell attacking Nolan before. What was all that over?

Nolan cast Jude Law in a role (I think it was for Batman Begins, but I can't remember) when Russell wanted Law for Huckabees. So he threw him in a headlock and cursed him out at a party. As a "joke." Law ended up in Huckabees.

 

[BestGirl]

Tarantino not only injured Thurman on set, he deliberately kept the footage away from her for years so she couldn't sue him. He ought to pay a stiff penalty for that.

 

[vinsanity]

Tarantino not only injured Thurman on set, he deliberately kept the footage away from her for years so she couldn't sue him. He ought to pay a stiff penalty for that.

Agreed and a public apology, still I don't think they should cancel the movie he's doing with Leo.

 

[Boom]

Tarantino not only injured Thurman on set, he deliberately kept the footage away from her for years so she couldn't sue him. He ought to pay a stiff penalty for that.

That's what really gets me. It's bad enough that he put her in a position to get hurt, but then he was too much of a coward to own up to it after she did get hurt.

Hugely disappointed over this story.

 

[OutOfBoose]

The footage was given to her only now, when Weinstein is no longer in power. It tells me that the main initiative and decision came from him. It doesn't really excuse QT, because he clearly participated in it.

 

[mclay18]

I still think this movie deserves to fall apart after the hell Tarantino put Thurman through, and I hope DiCaprio and the other actors are rethinking their decisions to join the film. Especially Margot Robbie.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I still think this movie deserves to fall apart after the hell Tarantino put Thurman through, and I hope DiCaprio and the other actors are rethinking their decisions to join the film. Especially Margot Robbie.

Jesus...

This is it.

This is when woke media decides what films get made.

 

[titansupes]

Yeah, that's nonsense. There's no reason QT shouldn't be allowed to make this film or any other, in spite of how bad his actions (and the cover-up nature of it all) were for that one incident.

 

[mclay18]

Jesus...

This is it.

This is when woke media decides what films get made.

You can choose to support an egotistical a**hole who recklessly endangers and degrades his leading actresses, that's your decision. There are plenty of good directors who can get the shots they want without bullying or endanger the actors they're working with.

Uma could've died in that crash, for Chrissakes. Why did Tarantino choose to sit on the footage for 15 years rather than take responsibility for his actions? Why is Diana Kruger not working with QT post Basterds? There's a pattern of bullying.

In any kind of profession, bullies like Tarantino make employees want to leave and never work with them again. Workplace bullying should never EVER be tolerated, no matter how prolific the actor/director/producer is.

I'm willing to bet money Margot Robbie is going to get the same kind of treatment by QT... just you wait.

 

[jmc]

It's like people can't even make a mistake now without there being a demand for their heads. Newsflash folks, you're not perfect yourselves. Everything single person in this forum has at some stage in their life let bad behaviour get the better of them, screamed at someone who didn't deserve it, demanded something be done for them for selfish reasons. And every single person here has had someone pull them up for saying or doing something inappropriate or reckless. That's how you learn and become a better person. Stop asking for people to be 100% perfect and to be fully aware of their behaviour when none of us here can do the same.

 

[mclay18]

I don't deny my bad decisions over my 30 years. I take responsibility and learn from them.

I doubt QT has.