Rank and Review all 5 Batfilms.

D'Artagnan said:
But it is a perfect adaption of the comics. It's exactly like the comics of the 50's and early 60's. Exactly. The humour comes from the fact that it's exactly like the comic, and played straight.
Oh yes, I'm aware. I meant as a rather...respectful adaption of the character rather than the comics at the time.
El Payaso said:
This is why tradition not always means something good. And changes are necessary.
Ironically, it was changes that made the comics in the 50s and 60s so horrible in the first place.
 
CConn said:
Ironically, it was changes that made the comics in the 50s and 60s so horrible in the first place.

Voluntary changes or CCA?
 
Batman Begins

Batman: Bale plays an interesting and most innovative potrayl of Batman yet. He completely engulfs himself in the personality, and plays it as extremely threatning and volatile creature. Almost as if he is on the verge of being a villain at times. A complete beast when he puts on the cape and cowl, Bale does a great job as Batman. In terms of acting, he is on par with Keaton, but what makes Bale the best is that he matches Keaton's intensity and adds a physicality to the role that can't be matched by ANY of the previous actors. 5/5
Bruce Wayne: There isn't really much to say about this aspect, Bale nails the character on all levels. No previous actor came even close to tapping into the greatness of the character of Bruce Wayne. Bale manages to pull of multiple aspects of the character. A young and confused Bruce, a lost Bruce, a determined Bruce, a playboy Bruce, and an adult private Bruce. Not only does he just play these parts, he excels at them. 5/5
Villains: Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow, Carmine Falcone, League of Shadows etc. What more could you ask for? Each characters earns its place and never overrides the performance of Bale, something that always was a negative affect of previous movies. And above all, the villains make you feel as if they actually pose a threat to Batman, and you can feel the danger. 5/5
Romantic intrest: Rachel Dawes, all though not your stereotypical scream your head off, damsel in distress... is the obvious weakest link of the film, but is more of a friend than an actual love interest. Which gets points for originality. 3/5
Action: Hands down, the best action of the bunch. The fight scenes regain that sense of realism. They are brutal and entertaining to watch, with original camera techniques used for the scenes compared to current action movies. Batman strikes like the urban legend that he is potrayed to be. 4/5
Vehicles: Best batmobile EVER. It actually moves and operates at high speeds. Looks wise, it looks like a physical manifestation of the character of Batman. Ready to take his war on crime in brutal fashion to the streets of Gotham City. The batmobile chase scene is one of the best movie chase scenes of all time. A physical batmobile that is hands down the biggest bad ass of the bunch. 5/5
Music: The music is extremely interesting and only gets better with multiple viewings. The score accentuates the story instead of over powering the movie itself, which is the goal of a score. Does it have your obvious theme? To an extent no... there are many similar elements with adrenaline pumping war drums, but this isn't a tv sitcom. It doesn't need an actual theme song. 5/5
Atmosphere: On the surface it doesn't seem as though it has as much of an atmosphere as say Burton's Batman or even Shumacher's Bat-flicks... but that's because it goes subtle with it, and looks for a real world look and feel. This movie wants to show how Batman would interact in a real world city, that is rotten with poverty and crime. I feel it is rich in amotsphere, but at times because it is so real it feels as if it isn't atmoshperic. But moments such as the end, with the Narrows and the steam in the air allows for a very interesting setting. 4/5
Adaptation: About as close as it comes to the essence of the generally accepted view of who and what Batman is, and how the characters act within the mythology. 5/5
Fun Factor: Begins was a very enjoyable. It had deep moments, yet it also had flat out fun moments. We were able to see moments taken straight out of some of the staple graphic novels in which the character has become so much of an icon from. 4/5
Story: The story of a venegful young man, comming of age, and turning all his negative emotions into positive drive to better his world to help live through is father's ideals. Story had the most heart and sencerity of the bunch. 5/5
Metaphors and Themes: 5/5

Final Rating: 55/60
 
Batman (1989)

Batman: 5/5
Bruce Wayne: 2/5
Villains: 4/5
Romantic intrest: 3/5
Action: 4/5
Vehicles: 5/5
Music: 5/5
Atmosphere: 5/5
Adaptation: 4/5
Fun Factor: 5/5
Story: 4/5
Metaphors and Themes: 2/5
Final Rating: 48/60
 
Batman Returns

Batman: 4/5
Bruce Wayne: 3/5
Villains: 4/5
Romantic intrest: 5/5 Catowoman... need I say more?
Action: 3/5
Vehicles: 4/5
Music: 5/5
Atmosphere: 5/5
Adaptation: 2/5
Fun Factor: 2/5
Story: 2/5
Metaphors and Themes: 5/5
Final Rating: 44/60
 
Batman Forever

Batman: 3/5
Bruce Wayne: 3/5
Villains: 2/5
Romantic intrest: 2/5
Action: 3/5
Vehicles: 4/5
Music: 2/5
Atmosphere: 3/5
Adaptation: 4/5
Fun Factor: 4/5
Story: 3/5
Metaphors and Themes: 3/5
Final Rating: 36/60
 
1. Batman Begins
do i really need to say why this is the best?
Bale IS Batman
Batman: 5/5
Bruce Wayne: 5/5
Villains: 5/5
Romantic intrest: 2/5
Action: 5/5
Vehicles: 5/5
Music: 3/5
Atmosphere: 5/5
Adaptation: 5/5
Fun Factor: 4/5
Story: 5/5
Metaphors and Themes: 5/5
Final Rating: 59/ 60

2. Batman 89
Joker, great one liners, dark and gothic
Batman: 5/5
Bruce Wayne: 4/5
Villains: 5/5
Romantic intrest: 3/5
Action: 4/5
Vehicles: 4/5
Music: 5/5
Atmosphere:4/5
Adaptation: 4/5
Fun Factor: 4/5
Story: 4/5
Metaphors and Themes: 4/5
Final Rating: 50/60

3. Batman Returns
hot chick in leather, what more can you ask for :)
Batman: 4/5
Bruce Wayne: 3/5
Villains: 4/5
Romantic intrest: 4/5
Action: 4/5
Vehicles: 3/5
Music: 5/5
Atmosphere:4/5
Adaptation: 4/5
Fun Factor: 4/5
Story: 3/5
Metaphors and Themes: 3/5
Final Rating: 45/60

4. Batman Forever
some good scences, most of them were utter rubbish though
Batman: 3/5
Bruce Wayne: 3/5
Villains: 1/5
Romantic intrest: 1/5
Action: 4/5
Vehicles: 4/5
Music: 4/5
Atmosphere: 3/5
Adaptation: 3/5
Fun Factor: 3/5
Story: 2/5
Metaphors and Themes: 2/5
Final Rating: 33/60

5. Batman & Robin
let's not talk about this :(
Batman: 2/5
Bruce Wayne: 2/5
Villains: 0/5
Romantic intrest: 0/5
Action: 2/5
Vehicles: 2/5
Music: 2/5
Atmosphere:2/5
Adaptation: 2/5
Fun Factor: 2/5
Story: 1/5
Metaphors and Themes: 1/5
Final Rating: ****
 
El Payaso said:
Were the 60's Batman comics that stupid? I really don't know but I really don't think so.

You know, opinions on these boards would be very different if everyone knew what they were talking about.
 
CConn said:
Oh yes, I'm aware. I meant as a rather...respectful adaption of the character rather than the comics at the time.

Batman the Movie was based on the comics of the time period, you can't fault it for that. And it was respectful - there are no major changes to the Batman mythos anywhere.
 
Kevin Roegele said:
Batman the Movie was based on the comics of the time period, you can't fault it for that. And it was respectful - there are no major changes to the Batman mythos anywhere.

Well apart from the inclusion of Dick Grayson having an Aunt Harriet,and she's living in Wayne Manor.

But she was there solely to surpress any possible gay rumours between Dick and Bruce that TV critics etc might raise.
 
Kevin Roegele said:
You know, opinions on these boards would be very different if everyone knew what they were talking about.

Thats sig worthy.
 
Batman

Great movie. Showed who Batman truly is, The Dark Knight. And became a huge success. Five Stars out of Five.

Batman Returns

Some say too dark, but honestly, when I was 12 and saw it in theaters all the time, everyone loved it. Never heard people thought it was too dark till I started reading about it online.

I thought it was a great movie, the suit was sleeker, Catwoman was portrayed wonderfully, and Penguin was looked at in a new and sinister way. Four stars.

Batman Forever

The minute I heard Batman say:"I'll get drive-thru." I knew everything had changed with this new director.

I tried to like it, and I was so happy to see Robin finally come to life but the actor they chose sucked as Robin, the suit was nice though. And Two-Face was brought to life for the first time and was bastardized. Such a shame. The Riddler with pink hair, says it all.

Two stars.

Batman and Robin

There is not one good thing that could be said about this movie. No stars.

Batman Begins

Can't wait for more.
Nice to see the focus on Batman, not the villians, and good to see a faithful origin. And I always wanted Lucious in the movies, and Gordon finally looked like he should.

I don't like that Ra's had to fall victim to the 'reality' excuse for no imagination and take away his Lazarus Pits, but still cool.

Would've been nice if Scarecrow would've left his mask on a bit more.

All in all very good.

Five Stars.
 
Morgoth said:
Batman

Great movie. Showed who Batman truly is, The Dark Knight. And became a huge success. Five Stars out of Five.

Batman Returns

Some say too dark, but honestly, when I was 12 and saw it in theaters all the time, everyone loved it. Never heard people thought it was too dark till I started reading about it online.

I thought it was a great movie, the suit was sleeker, Catwoman was portrayed wonderfully, and Penguin was looked at in a new and sinister way. Four stars.

Batman Forever

The minute I heard Batman say:"I'll get drive-thru." I knew everything had changed with this new director.

I tried to like it, and I was so happy to see Robin finally come to life but the actor they chose sucked as Robin, the suit was nice though. And Two-Face was brought to life for the first time and was bastardized. Such a shame. The Riddler with pink hair, says it all.

Two stars.

Batman and Robin

There is not one good thing that could be said about this movie. No stars.

Batman Begins

Can't wait for more.
Nice to see the focus on Batman, not the villians, and good to see a faithful origin. And I always wanted Lucious in the movies, and Gordon finally looked like he should.

I don't like that Ra's had to fall victim to the 'reality' excuse for no imagination and take away his Lazarus Pits, but still cool.

Would've been nice if Scarecrow would've left his mask on a bit more.

All in all very good.

Five Stars.


The Riddler has orange hair, does he not? :confused:
 
DarkKnightJRK said:
1. Batman Returns
*Sees pissed off fanboys throwing veggies, grabs umbrella to deflect* Why is it there's always someone who brings eggs and tomatos to a speech?! :p
Seriously, not only is it currently the best Batman movie, it's also the best MOVIE out of the five.

For those who say, "it makes no sense! There's no explanation!" Shut the f**k up. Read between the lines. "Penguin was raised by penguins!" Shut the f**k up, Red Triangle gang raised Penguin, didn't you catch when Batman was reading the newpaper clippings? "Catwoman was revived by cats!" Shut the f**k up. The awnings and the snow broke her fall, gave her a nice concussion. That, plus all the cats and the shock of her boss throwing her out caused her to snap. "Missle launching penguins!" Shut the f**k up. Microwave emmiter, need I say more?

"Batman wasn't in it!" Shut the f**k up. Batman had just as many scenes as Penguin and Catwoman. Plus, he practically invented the villians. Selina Kyle was thrown out of a window because she found out some s**t when she was preping for Shreck's meeting with BRUCE WAYNE. It was BATMAN'S interference that made the people turn against Penguin and forced Penguin to give up on his humanity and go ahead with his children sceme.

Plus, the villains themselves were supposed to represent different aspects of Batman: Shreck was the powerfull businessman with evilish tendacies, Penguin was the f**ked up man-child, and Catwoman was the vengefull vigilantie. In the end, all of them are either, as Catwoman once put it (which is the irony, because she's the only surviving one), dead or deeply resentfull.

Batman Returns is a beautiful, poingant film that's definately the best Batman film yet.

Perhaps a bit blunt, but its nice to see somebody actually watch the film actively. Rare thing on these boards.
 
My favorites are too personal. In the sense that even though I know Batman Begins is more like the comic book, I still like Tim's movies more. I'll blame it on nostalgia. I mean, I was eleven when Batman (1989) was released--and it consumed my entire life.

So I have to go: Batman, Batman Returns, and Batman Begins. (And yus, I know I only have three films listed--but in all honesty, I don't acknowledge the other two. It's cool if you like them. I however, most certainly do not.)

I dig Tim's version of Batman, because he gets the essence right. You walk away believing it perfectly acceptable that a grown man would indeed dress up like a bat to try and make a difference.

(That, and Danny Elfman intoxicates me with pretty much everything he does. His scores are very saucy. I mean, I like the score of Batman Begins--but Danny is one of my boys; one of my go-to-for-giddiness artists.)

But I dig Batman Begins, because it gets the element right. You see the comic book reflected on the screen--especially when Batman yells at Gordon's partner, "SWEAR TO ME!" Eee! Perfection.

(About the only thing I didn't like about Batman Begins, was the character of Rachel. Meh. I hate it when Hollywood creates characters just because they can.)
 
Batman Begins: 9.5/10

Batman 89: 9.3/10

Batman Returns: 9/10

Batman Forever: 8.5/10

Batman & Robin: 5/10 (as a campy modern AW type Batman: 8/10)
 
1. Batman Returns- Atmospheric. Gothic. Erotic. Gory. Dark humor. Tragic.
2. Batman/Joker-Awesome. Powerful. Wicked.
3. Batman Begins-Explains where Batman gets his toys from. Has Lucius Fox.
I'll say something positive about the Schumacher movies:
4. B & R- At least it has neat special effects ice.
5. Forever-At least Dr. Chase Meridian was busty.
 
Chase Meridian still remains the best love interest Batman has ever had on film.
 
In no particular order:

Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Batman Begins

That's it.
 
Guason said:
There are better chances Selina would survive that fall than there are for a microwave which vaporizes water to do nothing to the human body.
In fact people´s falls have been broken before and they have survided because of that, for god´s sake people have survived much worse, not to mention Selina fell on snow.

That's not true. The science in BB was completely on target. I encourage you to read some Chemistry and Physics textbooks about the matter. If you want, I could explain right now.

As for the whole Catwoman thing, I just try not to think about it.
 
SatanBurger said:
I dare you to point out one instance in Burton's films in which Batman's thetaricality comes close to his debut on the docks in Begins. Or his attack in Scarecrow's warehouse. Or the deployment of his bats. Or his interrogation of Flass. You can't. You know why? Bcause execution is everything in film. You can talk about pop-psychology symbolism in Returns all you want, but the fact is it was handled terribly. Absolutely awful. The structure ranges from emarassingly reminiscent of a mediocre highschool term paper to unwatchable (Selina's ridiculous monologues, for instance). Not once does Batman live up to his name, either. He stands around looking a little goofy and a little uncomortable. Like a guy in a rubber suit. Not once does he swoop with any bravado or melt into the shadows. He's essentially a substantially less impressive Superman, or The Terminator in kinky leather. These recent accusations that Nolan's vision is less loyal to the romanticism of Batman boggles my mind. It's so far off base I don't even know where it stems from. Perhaps nifty set pieces and pseudo-goth imagery are convincing enough to some to make up for limp character portrayal.

Thinking back to the sweeping shot of Batman overlooking his city after whooping Falcone's men in contrast to Burton's Batman limping around the clocktower in awkward mock-karate right now. Mind is still boggled.

:up:

I'm pretty much done with this thread...
 
HarleenQuinzel said:
You know what really bothers me about Batman & Robin? When Robin smashed through that wall at the museum during the opening scene, it made the friggen' Robin logo. What the ****? How the hell did he make a perfect Robin logo?!

Magic? LOL.
 
My favourite Batman films are as follows:

1) Batman (1989) - The best and most definative version ever.
2) Batman Returns - Almost as good as the first.
3) Batman Begins - A great version, but still in Burton's shadow.
4) Batman Forever - Not as good as Burton's.
5) Batman and Robin - Arrgghh!!!
 
1. Batman Begins (4 stars)
2. Batman (3. 5 stars)
3. Batman Forever (3 stars)
4. Batman Returns ( 2.5 stars)
5. Batman & Robin (1 star)
 
Batman Begiins 7.5/10
Batman 6/10
Batman Returns 5/10
Batman Forever 5/10
Batman and Robin -323442232332232323/10
 

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