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how would you do a comic accurate spidey costume without using something similar to the design of Raimi? just asking....
They kind of are.
That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
Like I said: the differences between the suits are negligible.
I'd hardly say the eyes are a negligible difference...
That has nothing to do with the costume design.and same with the slender/sleek look.
I'm not saying there aren't any differences at all; there are. What I'm saying is they're too insignificant (or too subtle) to (overall) create a noticeably different image. I understand that it's the combination of a bunch of little things that can sometimes create a noticeably different product, but that's simply not the case with this suit. JMO.Raimi's suit was always built "bigger", the red chest triangle that forms into the belt was much thicker, the arms were covered in a larger section of red, the belt itself was thicker (though the Webb suit has 3 layers, its still thinner then Raimi's) and higher up on the waist giving the torso an even larger appearance. Plus, the head was a lot more structured with a fairly square jawline and overall flat back-head as opposed to Andrews' round curvature head (obviously more to do with the actor and not the suit itself).
That, and the webbing is a VERY noticeable change. I could show a picture of the Webb suit and Raimi suit side by side and I could garuntee you 5 of my non-comic book friends could point out those three differences.
Well I guess that's just great for you then. Mind providing an example of what you would consider a good enough difference then?I would.
Literally that whole paragraph was explaining how the slender look is based off the design. The suit isn't slender just because Andrew is skinny, it's slender from the choices that they decided to give it. AKA Thinner area of red on chest, thinner red on arms, rounded head, lower belt, all the things I mentioned in the following paragraph.That has nothing to do with the costume design.
And I would have to disagree, because they completely change the design of the suit from being a bulky built Spider-Man to a thinner sleek Spider-Man. You don't have to make drastic changes for it to be unique, especially when it isn't necessary.I'm not saying there aren't any differences at all; there are. What I'm saying is they're too insignificant (or too subtle) to (overall) create a noticeably different image. I understand that it's the combination of a bunch of little things that can sometimes create a noticeably different product, but that's simply not the case with this suit. JMO.
Yep.Really now? Without you pointing it out to them?
I hope the web shooters aren't annoying light up thingys this time.
I hope the web shooters aren't annoying light up thingys this time.
I posted this a few pages back:^I didn't even know it was altered until you mentioned it. Any actual side by side comparisons? It might help to actually see the differences you pointed out.
I actually liked that a bit. Gave it a real life "thwip" feel when he shot his webs.
I posted this a few pages back:
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All I did in this image was simply lower the belt a bit and Tobey's suit already looks taller and thinner. You can compare Garfield and Tobey's physique side by side, they are very similar build-wise. The only reason Webb's Spider-Man looks thinner is because they purposefully designed it that way.
Well I guess that's just great for you then.
I'll give you two: a different texture and webbing that isn't raised.Mind providing an example of what you would consider a good enough difference then?
Okay, I concede the point. However, even in light of those (rather clever) design elements, I still don't think they're enough to really distinguish this suit from Raimi's.Literally that whole paragraph was explaining how the slender look is based off the design. The suit isn't slender just because Andrew is skinny, it's slender from the choices that they decided to give it. AKA Thinner area of red on chest, thinner red on arms, rounded head, lower belt, all the things I mentioned in the following paragraph.
Which is obviously only arguably an noticeable difference.And I would have to disagree, because they completely change the design of the suit from being a bulky built Spider-Man to a thinner sleek Spider-Man.
That depends on your definition of drastic, I guess.You don't have to make drastic changes for it to be unique, especially when it isn't necessary.
Really? Because even after you modified his costume, Tobey still looks noticeably larger than Andrew. I think there's more to it than what you're suggesting.You can compare Garfield and Tobey's physique side by side, they are very similar build-wise. The only reason Webb's Spider-Man looks thinner is because they purposefully designed it that way.
If you say so.Yep.
To further this point I went ahead and applied the red sections of the TASM suit to the old Raimi suit:
From left to right we have the original suit unedited, one with the belt lowered down a row, and one with a lowered belt and TASM pattern.
As you can hopefully see, the subtle changes they added does a lot as far as image goes, to me simply lowering the belt alone takes off 10 pounds as far as looks go.
The new ones look triangular. Looks good.
Overall, the spidey suit itself is the best one I think we've ever gotten. Is that the general consensus?
I seriously couldn't agree more. We're on the same wavelength.This may be a belated comment--very, actually--but I just wanted to say that I love the new costume.
This is coming from someone who absolutely despised TASM's costume from its first picture to the DVD. It never worked and was always an eye-sore.
But this thing is fantastic. Not only is it better than TASM's costume, it is probably the best Spidey movie costume ever. Everytime I see a new picture of it, I am stunned by how impressive it is. It also makes me annoyed with how bad the last film's was, considering I was blasted for saying there was no way they'd keep it for two films.
But it is one of the many things that is giving me a surprisingly good feeling about this movie. It is an amazing piece of costume design. Bravo.
Just thought that I would throw that out there.
I fail to see how this is being defensive.There's no need to get defensive.
You think changing the textures is going to make more of a difference then changing the pattern of red or the eyes? I mean, I agree I would have liked to see different textures too but if your saying that all the other changes are negligible how is this one not? It's just as minimal as making the webbing black.I'll give you two: a different texture and webbing that isn't raised.
To each his own then I suppose.Okay, I concede the point. However, even in light of those (rather clever) design elements, I still don't think they're enough to really distinguish this suit from Raimi's.
Really? Because even after you modified his costume, Tobey still looks noticeably larger than Andrew. I think there's more to it than what you're suggesting.