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Well, well, well....

This is interesting.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr...sion/news/e3i017145c042c6beda08d8d5010273010c

I hope it's not bad news for the Winchester boys:

CW launches new schedule 'experiment'
By Kimberly Nordyke

Jan 5, 2008

The CW is shaking up its schedule, relocating the Monday comedy block to Sundays and putting freshman dramas "Gossip Girl" and "Reaper" on new nights.

On the reality front, "Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious" is set to debut Feb. 18, airing Monday nights, while "Beauty and the Geek" will debut March 11, leading into "One Tree Hill" on Tuesdays.

"We are really trying to take advantage of admittedly a very changed schedule now because of the strike," said Kelly Kahl, senior executive vp program operations at CBS, who oversees scheduling for both CW and CBS. "With the strike, we have an interesting opportunity to experiment, and with the nice stability from our reality shows, we can get a look at how some of these (scripted) shows do in other time periods."

On Feb. 10, the Monday comedy block -- comprised of "Everybody Hates Chris," "Aliens in America," "Girlfriends" and "The Game" -- will move to Sunday nights, where it briefly aired when the CW launched in September 2006. It will displace freshman drama "Life Is Wild," which has aired its initial order.

"Our Sunday schedule has not been setting the world on fire," Kahl said. "The comedies have very loyal audiences, and we're going to give them a chance to thrive somewhere else. To be fair, we really never gave them a chance (on Sundays) the last time."


Starting Jan. 28, "Gossip Girl" will move from 9 p.m. Wednesday to anchor Monday nights at 8 p.m., leading in to "Pussycat Dolls." The move to Mondays will get "Gossip Girl," which has been getting a lot of buzz but has garnered only modest ratings, out of the path of Fox's "American Idol."

"We're trying to get it away from heavy competition and get it some sampling on Monday night because it's such an important show for the CW," Kahl said. "No one is expecting miracles, but it's all kind of additive at this point."

Meanwhile, "Reaper" will return at 8 p.m. Jan. 15 before moving to 9 p.m. Thursdays on Feb. 28, leading out of "Smallville." "Reaper," which had previously led out of "Beauty and the Geek," will replace "Supernatural," which is taking a break from the schedule.

"We're trying to give 'Reaper' a chance as well, moving it away from (Fox's) 'House' on Tuesday (at 9 p.m.) and seeing if we can find a bit more of a compatible lead-in in 'Smallville,' " Kahl said.

CW's dramas are running out of originals because of the writers strike. "Gossip Girl" has one new episode remaining before going into reruns, "Reaper" has three, and "Smallville" and "Supernatural" have several. Things look better on the comedy side, where "Chris" has completed its season and the other comedies have a number of episodes in the can.

"Pussycat Dolls" also will repeat on Wednesdays after "Top Model," which is returning for its 10th season with new judge Paulina Porizkova. The strategy worked well during the first season of "Pussycat Dolls."

"Putting the two numbers (from the first-run and repeat episodes) together made it a very strong show," Kahl said.

Still to come is dating competition series "Farmer Wants a Wife," which Kahl said will likely debut in May after the season finales of "Top Model" and "Pussycat Dolls."

CW's new midseason schedule:

Monday
8-9 p.m. "Gossip Girl" (Jan. 28)
9-10 p.m. "Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious" (Feb. 18)

Tuesday
8-9 p.m. "Reaper" (Jan. 15)
8-9 p.m. "Beauty and the Geek" (March 11)
9-10 p.m. "One Tree Hill"

Wednesday (Feb. 20)
8-10 p.m. "American's Next Top Model"
9-10 p.m. "Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious"*

Thursday
8-9 p.m. "Smallville"
9-10 p.m. "Reaper" (Feb. 28)

Friday
8-10 p.m. "WWE Friday Night SmackDown!"

Sunday (Feb. 10)
7-7:30 p.m. "CW Now"
7:30-8 p.m. "Everybody Hates Chris"*
8-8:30 p.m. "Everybody Hates Chris"
8:30-9 p.m. "Aliens in America"
9-9:30 p.m. "Girlfriends"
9:30-10 p.m. "The Game"

*Repeat
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Well that IS interesting. Futon Critic says more info will be released by CW on Monday, but it looks to me like they want to use SV to bolster Reaper, knowing that SN is A-okay. I am surprised they aren't re-running the latter though. I don't think its ratings were bad - certainly not any poorer than GG, their new "signature show." But I guess we'll see what the official word is come Monday.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7531
 
I think they want to space out the new, remaining eps of SV and SN, their Thursday night heavy hitters. No sense on airing them together and using up all the new shows in 6 weeks and then getting clobbered on Thursdays until May when they can air SV for 6 weeks in February/March and then replace it with the final 6 episodes of SN for April/May.

I'd take this as another sign that there wont be more than 15 episodes of Smallville or Supernatural this season.
 
AgentPat said:
Well that IS interesting. Futon Critic says more info will be released by CW on Monday, but it looks to me like they want to use SV to bolster Reaper, knowing that SN is A-okay. I am surprised they aren't re-running the latter though. I don't think its ratings were bad - certainly not any poorer than GG, their new "signature show." But I guess we'll see what the official word is come Monday.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7531
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Well, if they're starting reaper after SPN runs out of new eps, which might be why they're waiting to switch it to thursdays until the end of Feb, then it might not be bad for SPN at all...

If it gives new life to reaper, I like it although I only watch it when my kids do, I'd be all for it.
 
A poster over at PiFeedback pointed out that SN has 4 new eps left and Reaper has 3. The belief is that CW will run the remaining fresh eps of Reaper in its current Tuesday time slot for sweeps, and then move it to Thursdays for repeats. Everybody is scratching their heads about the fate of SN, however.
 
...Someone tie me down, because I'm about to go crazy. :dry:
 
The Numb3r said:
...Someone tie me down, because I'm about to go crazy. :dry:
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I just saw this and I was bummed too. I hope you guys are right though, and they are just saving the SPN eps for later as opposed to kicking it to the curb. :(
 
Here's Variety's report on CW's schedule changes:

Variety
1/4/08

'Gossip Girl' moves to Monday
'Pussycat Dolls ' returning for second season
By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER

OMG, The CW is moving "Gossip Girl" to Monday nights, for realz. Lol.

"Gossip Girl"- already a hit among the net's target Millennial crowd - will move to Mondays at 8 p.m. starting Jan. 28. Then, on Feb. 18, the show will be joined at 9 p.m. by the second season of "Pussycat Dolls Present."

This time out, the Pussycats are forming a new band, "Girlicious." (That's not a typo.)

Because of the writers strike, "Gossip Girl" will be in repeats this midseason. But by moving the show from Wednesdays, the netlet believes it can to expose it to a whole new audience on Mondays.

"I don't think anyone's expecting miracles in terms of running series repeats, but at the same point there's a unique opportunity to get some new eyeballs on it," says CBS scheduling topper Kelly Kahl, who also handles the C-Dub's lineup. "There's great buzz and a great reaction to 'Gossip Girl' - now we just want to grow the audience a bit. The Wednesday night competition is tough, and it will get tougher with 'American Idol' moving in."

The move is just one of several midseason shuffles the CW announced on Friday. On Tuesdays, netlet will replace repeats of "Crowned" at 8 p.m. with repeats of "Reaper" until March 11, when "Beauty and the Geek" returns. ("One Tree Hill" remains at 9 p.m.)

"America's Next Top Model" continues Wednesdays at 8 p.m., while repeats of the Monday "Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious" will run at 9 p.m. starting Feb. 20.

"We're employing a similar strategy to the last time we had 'Pussycat Dolls' on," Kahl said. "We aired an original earlier in the week, then a repeat behind 'Top Model.' The repeats did almost as well as the original. Add the audiences together, and that's a nice little number for the show."

On Thursdays, "Smallville" will continue at 8 p.m., while a handful of remaining original "Reaper" segs will run at 9 p.m. starting Feb. 28.

"We're giving 'Reaper' a few Thursday airings, which means for the first time a real compatible lead-in for the show, from 'Smallville,'" Kahl said.

Fridays remain the same with "WWE Smackdown." Then, on Sundays (starting Feb. 10), the CW will shift its Monday night urban-skewing comedy lineup.

That includes repeats of "Everybody Hates Chris" at 7:30 p.m. (following the "CW Now" pre-sold magazine show), and original segs of "Chris" (which had already completed its season when the strike began) at 8 p.m. "Aliens in America" will air at 8:30, followed by "Girlfriends" at 9 and "The Game" at 9:30.

When the CW originally launched in fall 2006, the urban comedies were slated for Sunday night. But after a disasterous launch, the net quickly moved the laffers back to Monday (where they aired on UPN). Kahl said he hoped auds would be more aware of the schedule shift this time around.

Not in the mix: "Supernatural," which goes on hiatus, but will return at some point; and family drama "Life is Wild," which isn't expected to return. On the reality side, "Crowned" ends its run at the start of February; other shows, including "Farmer Takes a Wife," are still waiting in the wings.

By running non-scripted skeins on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday nights (as well as some original fare on Thuesdays and Sundays), Kahl said he believed the net has crafted a schedule that flows well.


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117978521
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I think that show One Tree Hill went on hiatus last year too and is now coming back for a return run starting in January. It know it was retooled and is coming back "5-years later". Anyway, maybe the CW is planning the same type of hiatus for Supernatural. Maybe it'll return for back to back episodes next January after they fix it a bit. I know a lot of fans were irritated with the addition of the 2 new girls this season.
 
rumpuso said:
I think that show One Tree Hill went on hiatus last year too and is now coming back for a return run starting in January. It know it was retooled and is coming back "5-years later". Anyway, maybe the CW is planning the same type of hiatus for Supernatural. Maybe it'll return for back to back episodes next January after they fix it a bit. I know a lot of fans were irritated with the addition of the 2 new girls this season.
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I hope you're right, rump.

I like both of the girls they added - which is just one more reason for me not to dive into SPN fandom. ;)

Good to see you, btw! Happy New Year to you. :)
 
AgentPat said:
JL forum crazy? Or SN crazy? LOL Could be both given the timing. ;)
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The latter. I just don't understand the way they've treated the show. And this new development is just.....*wow*
 
The Numb3r said:
The latter. I just don't understand the way they've treated the show. And this new development is just.....*wow*
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It looks like people have fretted for nothing, the show will be back on the 31st according to Ausiello:

One other major CW programming note: any remaining new Reaper episodes (there are two, by Ausiello's count) will piggyback Smallville starting Feb. 28. But don't fret, Supernatural fans — a CW rep assures me the series will be back Jan. 31, as planned, to air three or four new episodes in a row.
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http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Gossip-Girl-Moves/800030311

That's a relief, I was worried...
 
It's very true. CW has released several things that state Reaper will be on the SN timeslot starting Feb. 28. All the SN episodes left for this Season will be shown in a row while Smallville will already be airing repeats mid February.

Don't like that they put a show after Smallville that gets 10 times the promotion for one episode than Smallville got all Season. But Reaper will have to go against shows like Lost in that timeslot. So I'm really not that mad. Good for SN.
 
jr24tw said:
It's very true. CW has released several things that state Reaper will be on the SN timeslot starting Feb. 28. All the SN episodes left for this Season will be shown in a row while Smallville will already be airing repeats mid February.

Don't like that they put a show after Smallville that gets 10 times the promotion for one episode than Smallville got all Season. But Reaper will have to go against shows like Lost in that timeslot. So I'm really not that mad. Good for SN.
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Reaper is a new show and SV is in its 7th season, I think it makes sense it gets a lot more promotion. I'm still not going to watch it though:)
 
From Craig:

Craig said:
Remember this summer how much the CW was promoting Gossip Girl and not SV or Supernatural at all... yet, both of those shows outdid Gossip Girl.

I'd say there's no way we'll be getting a Season 9. Of course, I'm sure if people look back far enough, they'd find me saying "there will never be a Season 8."

I know when I'm going in to writing the Season 7 book I'm doing it with the assumption that there's another season after this one. Though I may ask some "what would you think if it was over" questions just in case.
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Well that's... kind of odd. I'm not sure if I should be reading any more into that post? :confused:
 
avidreader said:
What's odd about it????

:huh:
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I dunno, it's like Craig is saying one thing but then turning around and suggesting something else. Is he hinting around at something or just rambling out various thoughts like any of us would? I can't tell.

I don't want to disassemble his post, but I kind of have to in this case. He starts out by saying SV and SN outdid GG in the ratings despite CW pouring tons of ad dollars into the latter. Okay. And? I could have told you that was going to happen last summer LOL. Of course, I would have just been speculating based on how completely dumb the show looked, but that's neither here nor there. What's Craig's point in stating the obvious? (I'm not busting on him.)

His next paragraph seems to address that very question. He jumps completely over S8 and suggests (I think?) that because SV is CW's ratings champ - apparently beating out even their darling GG - there could be a NINTH season of SV, even though his gut feeling (I guess?) tells him there won't be. He points out that if you look back far enough, you would find comments from him saying there'd never be a S8. (Hell, I didn't think there'd be a S6, never mind eight. LOL) It's like he's stepping outside the box of what he knows the producers have said ("S8 is IT!") and is looking at the ratings knowing that SV is one of the few shows that CW can actually count on - and do so by practically ignoring. Sure, it's expensive, but so was FRIENDS (think of the million plus salaries each of that cast got per episode.) If anything, SV is one of the few shows CW can basically guarantee their sponsors will get eyes. And that's worth something.

But wait! Craig flip flops what I thought was his point by saying he's going into writing his book with the assumption of an 8th season, but he's going to ask those that he interviews "what would you think if it was over," just in case. Just in case what? Just in case there isn't an eight season? Wait! Back up. Why wouldn't there be an eighth season when you just talked about how unsurprising it would be for CW to buy into a 9th?

I'm confused. LOL

Now lets factor in something that hasn't been addressed yet. This isn't related to Craig's post, but it's something I've been wondering for the last few days. The air sked for the remaining episodes has been posted, with the exception of one: the finale. Why is that? As of right now, they have not started shooting the 15th episode, but they will in about two weeks(ish). If something were to happen between now and then that would make THIS season the last (*cough* see rumors LOL), what is the possibility G&M have been sitting on a show finale script, possibly one that's two hours long (again, see rumors), and would use it if the poop hit the fan? CW would want to have a special slot for that ep, especially if it was longer than the standard hour format.

The brain: I can't shut it off when it comes to this sort of stuff. :(
 
^^^ First off, LOL, not in a a derrogatory way, but just the thought process that you've put into all that. I'm impressed. :yay:

Secondly, I think Craig is just thinking out loud, and perhaps blowing his own trumpet a little bit, in that he is going to be in a position where he can ask the "what if" question. "Look I'm writing a book for the 7th Season and I get to talk to the cast." :cwink:

Thirdly, my speculation about the airdate for Veritas is that they want to be absolutely sure that it will be the season finale, i.e. the writers wont be returning to work, before they lock it into the schedule. If it is going to be the finale, then they may hold it back a few weeks, so that the summer hiatus isnt quite so long.
 
AgentPat said:
Now lets factor in something that hasn't been addressed yet. This isn't related to Craig's post, but it's something I've been wondering for the last few days. The air sked for the remaining episodes has been posted, with the exception of one: the finale. Why is that?

The brain: I can't shut it off when it comes to this sort of stuff. :(
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