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Smallville was preempted by basketball and baseball in a few key markets so the ratings data is really incomplete... The one's up on K-Site arent really accurate because of that
 
Damn individual stations and their quest for ratings via sports. Dont they know that's why god invented ESPN.
 
vyperman7 said:
I think they refered to the show as fading, because of what it used to get in the ratings.

During the first season, Smallville pulled in 6-7 million viewers an episode.

During the second season, it pulled in between 7-8 million viewers an episode, with an all time high of just over nine million for Rosetta.

Now when you compare the ratings, Smallville is practically only getting half of what it used to. While the ratings are still decent for a WB show, there has been a considerable decline from when the show was at its peak, popularity wise.


I thiink that has more to do with the WB moving Smallville from Tuesday nights where it dominated pretty well to Wednesday nights where it faces stiff competition from American Idol and Lost. The WB always seems to do things like that with their shows.
 
Another problem is Smallville is only advertised like most shows on it's own network. Since the Wb has a low amount of viewers in general it's easy to miss when the new episodes start. For anyone with the info are the Lex centered episodes lower rated? I think I remeber Bound being a problem also.
 
Hmm... well, here's the prelims. SV info in red. Other relevant info in bold...

At 8 p.m., a repeat of ABC's Lost remained at competitive option with a 7.2/12 in the overnights (#1), 9.84 million viewers (#1) and a 3.1/10 among adults 18-49 (#2), while America's Next Top Model on UPN certainly did not disappoint at a 4.2/ 7 in the overnights (#5), 4.23 million viewers (#5) and a 1.9/ 6 among adults 18-49 (#4). Last in the hour was the WB's Smallville, with a 3.8/ 6 in the overnights, 4.14 million viewers and a 1.7/ 6 among adults 18-49.

At 9 p.m., and trailing Fox's American Idol and NBC's Revelations, were CBS comedies King of Queens (Overnights: #3t, 6.1/ 9; Viewers: #3, 8.25 million; A18-49: #4, 2.9/ 7) and Yes, Dear (Overnights: #2, 6.5/ 9; Viewers: #2, 9.04 million; A18-49: #4, 3.2/ 8), ABC's overrated Alias (Overnights: #4, 6.2/ 9; Viewers: #4, 8.36 million; A18-49: #3, 3.2/ 8), a repeat of UPN's Kevin Hill (Overnights: #5, 2.1/ 3; Viewers: #5, 2.54 million; A18-49: #5, 1.1/ 3), and Jack & Bobby on the WB (Overnights: #6, 1.9/ 3; Viewers: #6, 2.07 million; A18-49: #6, 0.8/ 2). Considering the magnitude of stars appearing on season (or series) finale of Jack & Bobby on May 11 (see below), the critically acclaimed but minimally seen drama will certainly be going out in style.

The WB in May:
Programming Items of Note

With the start of the May sweep just one week away, here is what you will be seeing on the WB:

Season Finales:
-Jack & Bobby: Wednesday, May 11, 9 p.m. ET (could be the series ender)
-Gilmore Girls: Tuesday, May 17, 8 p.m. ET
-Smallville: Wednesday, May 18, 8 p.m. ET (90-minutes, and featuring 8-minutes of footage from upcoming theatrical, Batman Begins.
-What I Like About You: Friday, May 20, 8 p.m. ET (could be the series ender)
-Reba: Friday, May 20, 9 p.m. ET
-Charmed: Sunday, May 22, 8 p.m. ET
-7th Heaven: Monday, May 23, 8 p.m. ET
-Everwood: Monday, May 23, 9 p.m. ET
-One Tree Hill: Tuesday, May 24 (two hours)

Specials
-The Ron White Show: Thursday, April 28, 8:30 p.m. ET
-Mobile Home Disaster: Thursday, April 28, 9 p.m. ET

Guest Stars:
-Tim Robbins, Lou Diamond Phillips, Gore Vidal and Norman Lear on Jack & Bobby, Wednesday, May 11, 9 p.m. ET
-Luke Perry (Beverly Hills, 90210) on What I Like About You, Friday, May 13, 8 p.m. ET​

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newsletters/proginsider/index.jsp
 
Lara said:
Another problem is Smallville is only advertised like most shows on it's own network. Since the Wb has a low amount of viewers in general it's easy to miss when the new episodes start. For anyone with the info are the Lex centered episodes lower rated? I think I remeber Bound being a problem also.

Memoria, I believe, was one of the lowest rated eps ever and it was one of the best.

Onyx was sooo good, too bad people came back to see Spirit. They probably won't be back to see Blank after last night's ep.
 
triplet said:
Memoria, I believe, was one of the lowest rated eps ever and it was one of the best.

Onyx was sooo good, too bad people came back to see Spirit. They probably won't be back to see Blank after last night's ep.
Not if DTS is anything to go by. They almost ALL LOVED it. I'm slackjawed. One person said it was better than Memoria. Did I see the same episode everybody else did last night? I'm really starting to wonder. The Clana bit at the end was nice and all, but is THAT the reason they're all gushing? Really? :confused:

Hey, I'm GLAD folks liked it, but I was thinking like you, Trip. With the recent news of the BB trailer, I thought there might be some more viewers (read: comic book fans) tuning in last night for the helluvit. It DEFINITELY was NOT an episode I'd recommend to folks to turn them on to the show. Well, not unless they were fourteen or thereabouts LOL.
 
WB really needs just to get rid of "Jack and Bobby", I mean it's gotten worse ratings than "Birds of Prey". The producer of that show must have pictures of the WB head cheating on hsi wife or something, it's just not happening for that show... As much as "Angel" bored me to tears, at least it brought a bit of an audience with it to Smallville. WB needs to smarten up and get another watchable genre show and pair it with Smallville, and not that thing with "Mr. No screen Personality" Jensen Ackles either...
 
AgentPat said:
Not if DTS is anything to go by. They almost ALL LOVED it. I'm slackjawed. One person said it was better than Memoria. Did I see the same episode everybody else did last night? I'm really starting to wonder. The Clana bit at the end was nice and all, but is THAT the reason they're all gushing? Really? :confused:

Hey, I'm GLAD folks liked it, but I was thinking like you, Trip. With the recent news of the BB trailer, I thought there might be some more viewers (read: comic book fans) tuning in last night for the helluvit. It DEFINITELY was NOT an episode I'd recommend to folks to turn them on to the show. Well, not unless they were fourteen or thereabouts LOL.

The Clana set were all totally satisfied with the dance at the end, it was sweet and romantic and with Jason watching sets up some conflict for later, nice touch by the scribe, Luke Schelhaas. And the Lifehouse song was perfect. However, that didn't make up for the rest.

I'm going to give it only about middling grade. As fun as it was, it also had some serious plot holes....

I'm going to have to watch it again before I review it.
 
The one thing about this episode was that I thought everyone in it acted very well. In fact, I actually liked Lana in it. I normally cant stand her. But she was good as Lana and good as the possessed prom queen wannabe.
The one thing I thought was funny, but wasnt meant to be was after possesed chloe punches Pa Kent and he tumbles down the stairs, Clark shows up and Jonathan says, "Chloe isn't acting like herself" He gets punched in the face, falls down stairs and all he has to say is, "Chloe isn't acting like herself"? Come on. I actually laughed. I was like, WTF?!? Whatever though, it doesnt matter really, I would have expected more of a reaction then that though.
 
LOL she didnt just punch him, she basically hit him with the butt end of an axe.... :D But hey Jonathan's a pretty tough guy, I mean after all he did shirk off a gun shot from just last week. :D
 
lmao, thats right, I guess falling down stairs is nothing compared to a bullet wound. Im suprised the show doesnt have higher ratings, seeing as how there are apprently 2 men of steel in the show
 
darkzombiemutt said:
lmao, thats right, I guess falling down stairs is nothing compared to a bullet wound. Im suprised the show doesnt have higher ratings, seeing as how there are apprently 2 men of steel in the show

Of course, the majority of the public doesn't know that. Around this time last year, barely anyone in the public knew about Batman Begins.
 
sage1047 said:
Of course, the majority of the public doesn't know that. Around this time last year, barely anyone in the public knew about Batman Begins.
Sage, buddy, I think you missed the joke. :p :D
 
triplet said:
Memoria, I believe, was one of the lowest rated eps ever and it was one of the best.

Onyx was sooo good, too bad people came back to see Spirit. They probably won't be back to see Blank after last night's ep.
I think the general audience isn't as enamored of Lex as the online comunity. Is something really special going on with the Model show? :confused: Their ratings have increased right? It's not just Smallville going down is it?
 
Another question do most shows decline in ratings over a period of years? I'm thinking it might be a natural decline peoples attention spans are notoriously short. It would be interesting to compare ratings for other shows in their 4th + season with thier inital ratings or ratings peak.
 
AgentPat said:
Not if DTS is anything to go by. They almost ALL LOVED it. I'm slackjawed. One person said it was better than Memoria. Did I see the same episode everybody else did last night? I'm really starting to wonder. The Clana bit at the end was nice and all, but is THAT the reason they're all gushing? Really? :confused:

I loved it, but I wouldn't put it in the same ballpark as Memoria. The Clana was Primo for the series though, so that does score bigtime points on my list of all time favorite eps. The rest of the ep was just fun to watch. Remember, we all come to this show with different expectations and desires. I sorta like everything. :) I love the Supes stuff, I love the characters, I love the drama, and I love it when they stray off the path and get a little campy. There are a few things I really don't like, but I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to my favorite show.
 
Lara said:
I think the general audience isn't as enamored of Lex as the online comunity...
This is a tough one. I know very few people who watch SV and are NOT also big into the Internet - or at least don't participate in SV/Superman-related message boards. One person is my mom. She's 66 and started watching SV because of my suggestion and because she grew up reading comic books. Currently though, I think she only watches it now for one reason: TW. (I kid you not. Hey, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, doncha know? LOL) The other person is my husband. He could care less about the comic book tie-ins; he just LOVES Lex, and to a lesser extent Lionel. So it's a 50/50 split among the folks I know off-line.

Another question do most shows decline in ratings over a period of years? I'm thinking it might be a natural decline peoples attention spans are notoriously short. It would be interesting to compare ratings for other shows in their 4th + season with their initial ratings or ratings peak.
This is another tough question because the reasons for a show's improvement or decline are not always the same. Plus, the network it's on plays a key role.

Northern Exposure, for example, aired 110 episode over the course of six seasons. It started as a summer replacement show in 1990 with only 8 episodes. It got a great response. CBS was blind sided by its popularity, but thought it was a fluke, so they tested the waters by ordering seven more episodes for a 2nd season. Bingo bango, people LOVED it - and the ratings proved it. So CBS did a most unprecedented act and ordered not one, but TWO FULL seasons of the show. That's pretty rare folks. By the fourth season, even popular clothing manufactures were being influenced by demand for "NX" related clothes: flannel, plaid (too funny!) and moose motifs. But then things got weird. CBS moved the show from the time slot it had OWNED for two years (Mondays at 10p) to a new one - probably to shore up a much weaker night. The plan backfired, apparently. By the fifth season, ratings were starting to dip and nobody was really able to explain why. Then the bottom dropped out. The star of the show, Rob Morrow left to pursue a features career in the series' sixth season. Everybody hated his replacement because the dynamic between characters was no longer there. The show was canceled during the shooting of the finale episode. It was a sad day for cast, crew, and fans. So who's fault was it? CBS for moving time slots? Morrow for leaving the show? The writers for not compensating with a *good* replacement character? Or did viewers just grow tired of the show after six years? Meh. Who knows? Probably a combination of all the above.

Serene said:
I loved it, but I wouldn't put it in the same ballpark as Memoria. The Clana was Primo for the series though, so that does score bigtime points on my list of all time favorite eps. The rest of the ep was just fun to watch. Remember, we all come to this show with different expectations and desires. I sorta like everything. :) I love the Supes stuff, I love the characters, I love the drama, and I love it when they stray off the path and get a little campy. There are a few things I really don't like, but I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to my favorite show.
Oh, trust me, I'm as forgiving as they come. SV IS my favorite show, bar none. And ANY opportunity to see Clark blissed out like he was at the end is wicked fine by me LOL. If anything, I was just bummed Lana didn't plant one on him. I mean, come ON now! Wouldn't YOU?! Hello? She's just dumb. DUMB I tell ya.

*ahem*

Sorry - some things bother me more than others. LOL Iz one of the reasons why I liked Alicia so much. She saw something she wanted and made sure she got it. That's my girl. ;)
 
AgentPat said:
If anything, I was just bummed Lana didn't plant one on him. I mean, come ON now! Wouldn't YOU?!

You're not really asking ME a question like that? Moi? You should know that if that had been me, as soon as that dance was over the rating on the show would have been updated to NC-17!
*ahem* indeed! ;)

Sorry - some things bother me more than others. LOL Iz one of the reasons why I liked Alicia so much. She saw something she wanted and made sure she got it. That's my girl. ;)

Yeah, psycho nutjobs are always pretty good about that. :p
Although I will always be grateful to dear departed Alicia for the lovely scenes she left us with...
 
Aren't ratings reported by different people, is it possible that Smallville has a higher spot on Wednesday.
 
Ok here's the end of the year round up from EW Smallville 4.3/118 in 18-49/ down 14. It is tied with Everwood and one Tree Hill but still beats everyone but Gilmore Girls in the key demo. Girlmore Girls is 4.7/106. The highest rated 7th Heaven is 5.3/ 123. So it appears that Smallville is the third highest rated overall and second in overall demo's not just male viewers.Not bad considering the horrible competiton it had =)
 
Ok to add more here's how next years competiton preformed this past year. The OC 7.0/60 down 28. Alias 10.4/34 up 21. Joey 10.1/34
 
Here are this week's ratings... Yikes.

A repeat of the WB's Smallville moved into its new fall time period with a last-place 1.7/ 3 in the overnights, 1.66 million viewers and a 0.7/ 2 among adults 18-49..... Opposite Survivor this fall, Smallville would be wise to start packing!

This bodes ill, methinks.
 
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