Justice League Re-cast Hal Jordan for JL movie? Yay or Nay? - Part 1

[mace1]

John stewart was added not just for diversity for the cartoon but he was the most interesting green lantern to bruce timm.So it was both diversity and a interesting green lantern.
By the way he was member on the justice league before the cartoon came out.


Excerpts from the Justice League Panel at the 2001 San Diego Comic Con:

Bruce Timm: He’s the most controversial character so far from what we’ve been gathering on the Internet. When the show’s lineup was first announced, there were a lot of people saying, “Why aren’t they using Hal Jordan? No, it’s got to be Guy Gardner. No, it’s got to be Kyle Rayner.” Obviously, we picked the wrong one, but the reason we did choose John Stewart are various—I think they’re all valid. Right off the bat, I’ll just say it: you know we did need ethnic diversity in the Justice League. We felt that the show is going to be seen worldwide and I think having a member of the Justice League who is not just “Mr. White Bread” is a good thing.

Another reason why we chose him: literally, out of all the Green Lanterns we could have chosen, we all kind of liked the John Stewart character from the comics, especially the Denny O’Neil / Neal Adams version. When they first introduced him he was like the angry young black guy…you know, in 1969 and 1970. Even though that’s not really relevant today—like the whole Black Power movement and everything—we still wanted to keep that kind of edge and attitude with him.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Hell yea recast. Have a different Hal or have John Stewart.

 

[mace1]

John stewart by the way is the main main green lantern now in the comic green lantern corps.
He was a main main green lantern in that series anyway with guy but guy gardner is now in the red lantern comics,making john more of a main green lantern now in that comic.

Following the event, Guy was placed in the cast of the Red Lantern series where he was sent by Hal Jordan to join the Red Lanterns undercover and has defeated Atrocitus and taken command of the group since.

By the way i think john stewart had a number of good enough stories in comics so i have no problem if is is the main green lantern in a green lantern movie or if john and hal were two main ones.
Anyway for me john stewart is the most interesting green lantern.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I love how people on here say that Ryan Reynolds doesn't want to play the character again as if Warners even wants him. Reynolds is a solid actor but he's practically a flop magnet at this point and GL was yet another disaster for him.

It's not recast Yay or Nay, it's who are they going to cast as GL in the JL film.

 

[TommyJones1945]

John stewart was added not just for diversity for the cartoon but he was the most interesting green lantern to bruce timm.So it was both diversity and a interesting green lantern.
By the way he was member on the justice league before the cartoon came out.


Excerpts from the Justice League Panel at the 2001 San Diego Comic Con:

Why are you lying? It was Kyle.

And what does your post have to do with any thing this thread's about.

 

[TommyJones1945]

I love how people on here say that Ryan Reynolds doesn't want to play the character again as if Warners even wants him. Reynolds is a solid actor but he's practically a flop magnet at this point and GL was yet another disaster for him.

It's not recast Yay or Nay, it's who are they going to cast as GL in the JL film.

You. Are. A. Genius.

 

[cleverusername8]

Yeah, I feel bad for Ryan in the sense that he's had awful luck with starring roles as of late. As people incessantly state, GL's failure was not his fault. And now the character has left a bad taste in lots of people's mouth including him. I'd enjoy seeing him again as Hal.

But even if people had liked the movie and Ryan wanted to come back, I'd have a hard time fully endorsing this to happen since it'd screw with the story quite a bit. Meshing Green Lantern and Man of Steel storylines would be painful and possibly impossible. Too many contradictions between the two regardless of which one you put first.

 

[mace1]

Why are you lying? It was Kyle.

And what does your post have to do with any thing this thread's about.

Originally Posted by Rorschach2012
DC doesn't take John seriously. That's why he's not leading any books or starring in animated movies or even on the Justice League.

Each of the Earth's Green Lanterns has been a member of either the Justice Society of America or the Justice League of America, and John Stewart was featured as one of the main characters in both the Justice League and the Justice League Unlimited animated series. The Green Lanterns are often depicted as being close friends of the various men who have been the Flash, the most notable friendships having been between Alan Scott and Jay Garrick (the Golden Age Green Lantern and Flash), Hal Jordan and Barry Allen (the Silver Age Green Lantern and Flash), Kyle Rayner and Wally West (the modern-age Green Lantern and Flash), and Jordan also being friends with West.

He was member before kyle. For long period of time not a normal member but a member and even during some of times he was a normal member but not long period of time like hal or kyle.
That happen more so later.

He was a member with the justice league too or fought along with them with hal to stop the anti-monitor if you read the 1980's series.

For some time, Stewart occasionally filled in for him as Green Lantern when Jordan was unavailable, including some missions of the Justice League.


After Jordan gave up being Green Lantern in the 1980s, the Guardians selected Stewart for full-time duty. Stewart filled that role for some years, during which time he married Katma Tui, the Green Lantern of the planet Korugar who was initially assigned to train John in the use of his ring. Kat and John served together within the Green Lantern Corps of Earth alongside Hal Jordan, Arisia, Kilowog, Salaak, and other alien Green Lanterns.

Though he had initially refused a new Green Lantern ring months prior, he eventually accepted a new one entrusted to Kyle Rayner by a time-lost Hal Jordan, and joined the Justice League to fill in for Rayner as he took an extended leave of absence from Earth.(Green Lantern vol. 3 155-156)

1980s exile

From Green Lantern #151 (April 1982) until #172 (January 1984), Jordan was exiled into space for a year by the Guardians in order to prove his loyalty to the Green Lantern Corps, having been accused of paying too much attention to Earth when he had an entire "sector" of the cosmos to patrol. When he returned to Earth, he found himself embroiled in a dispute with Carol Ferris. Faced with a choice between love and the power ring, Jordan chose to resign from the Corps. The Guardians called upon Jordan's backup, John Stewart, to regular duty as his replacement.

Over the next few years, Stewart acted as Green Lantern when Jordan was unable to protect Earth. When a simple accident, slipping in the bathtub, caused Hal Jordan to be knocked unconscious, the power ring ascertained Jordan was not permanently damaged and placed a healing field around its injured owner. Minutes later, a JLA emergency signal sounded, going unanswered. The power ring streaked off into the night, securing John Stewart and delivering him to the Justice League as Green Lantern.

[FONT=Arial,] The Justice League's old foe, the Key, was dying and wished to see the JLA die before him. He murdered a Santa Claus on Christmas Eve as a way to leave a clue, a key with a note attached, for the heroes. Green Lantern bathed the key in an emerald glow which would pulsate when it was brought near the matching lock. Red Tornado flew up and down the streets of St. Louis until he found the correct door to use the key. The heroes entered a crumbling building and abruptly fell through a trap door into a death maze. The Leaguers had fallen victim to snares designed by their old foe, the Key. It appeared to the Justice League they were being picked off one-by-one. Green Lantern and the Red Tornado were surrounded by life-sized toy soldiers which neither of them could defeat. Unfortunately for the villain, the heroes' lives were spared by the intervention of the Phantom Stranger.



[FONT=Arial,] The Key escaped, setting off the countdown on a bomb threatening a St. Louis neighborhood. The JLA evacuated the imperiled citizens and Green Lantern contained the blast within a ring generated forcefield. Stewart was then able to use his architectural and power ring skills to reconstruct the destroyed buildings, just as they had been the day they were originally built.
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Justice League of America Vol 1 #110
March, 1974

Synopsis for "The Man Who Murdered Santa Claus!"


The Key returns and engineers the murder of the Santa Claus scheduled to appear at an orphans' Christmas Party with Superman and Batman, thus issuing a challenge to the Justice League. John Stewart, Hal Jordan's official substitute, stands in for a temporarily incapacitated Green Lantern, as the JLA heroes enter a death-trap, a dilapidated building in a St. Louis ghetto. One by one, the members sacrifice them-selves in a gauntlet of traps, so that the others can go on to defeat their foe, first Superman, then Black Canary, Bat-man, and Green Arrow. Red Tornado and John Stewart also seem to perish, but actually all the members are saved by the intervention of the Phantom Stranger. The Key, having learned that he has only a short time to live, and having vowed to destroy the JLA before he dies, now escapes, and the heroes must evacuate an entire city block, which the villain's devices are set to destroy. The substitute Green Lantern immediately recreates the old ghetto buildings, repairing them in the process. Later, Red Tornado is presented with his Christmas gift — a new and more colorful costume.

Crisis on Infinite Earths

Prior to the Crisis, the most prominent Green Lantern of Earth, Hal Jordan retired from the Green Lantern Corps. As his designated replacement Guy Gardner was in a coma, John Stewart took up the job.


During the Crisis, John Stewart was one of the first heroes enlisted by Harbinger to fight as one of the Monitor's agents to combat the Shadow Demons. Stewart fought in the 19th Century, alongside Cyborg, Firebrand, Psimon, Jonah Hex, Bat Lash, Scalphunter, Nighthawk and Johnny Thunder.

The Crisis divided the Guardians of the Universe into two separate factions, complicated by the fact that the Anti-Monitor had been created by Krona, one of their own. One group of Guardians believed that the destruction of the universe was inevitable, and that to waste time fighting the Anti-Monitor was futile. The others believed it was their duty to do everything they could to preserve life. The Green Lantern Corps was thrown into chaos when the Anti-Monitor used the Central Power Battery of Oa as a weapon and murdered half of the Guardians before they could get organized. As the Crisis wrought havoc upon the universe, many Green Lanterns were slain, including Eddore. With John Stewart elsewhere occupied, Guy Gardner was appointed as the new Green Lantern of Sector 2814.

Anyway i was replying a few posts in this thread about john stewart.

 

[mace1]

Green Lantern (John Stewart)





Justice League of America

For some time, Stewart occasionally filled in for him as Green Lantern when Jordan was unavailable, including some missions of the Justice League. After Jordan gave up being Green Lantern, the Guardians selected Stewart to full time duty. Stewart filled that role for some years, during which time he married Katma Tui, the Green Lantern of the planet Korugar. After Katma Tui's murder, Stewart became the administrator of the Mosaic World, a patchwork of communities from multiple planets that had been brought to Oa by an insane Guardian. From this position, Stewart eventually ascended to Guardianhood, which he later relinquished. After a brief period of paraplegia, he became Green Lantern once again and became a member of the JLA. Stewart was also a member of the Darkstars for some time. He regained his power ring during Kyle Rayner's tenure as Earth's main Green Lantern, and remained his backup for years, until Hal Jordan was resurrected after his spirit was freed from Parallax and the Spectre, after which Jordan took over Rayner's role as Rayner went to serve an administrative position in the Green Lantern Corps in Oa. In the subsequent restructuring of the Corps, each sector now has two Green Lanterns assigned to it, and Stewart and Jordan now share the responsibilities for Earth's sector 2814. After the dissolution of the Justice League in the aftermath of the Infinite Crisis event, and the destruction of their Moon Watchtower headquarters, Stewart has begun playing a larger role in metahuman affairs, working with many former Justice Leaguers.

John Stewart (comics)

John Stewart is a fictional character, a comic book superhero known as Green Lantern, published by DC Comics. He first appeared in Green Lantern vol. 2, #87 (December 1971/January 1972), and was created by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams.

Publication history

John Stewart has become a major recurring character in the Green Lantern mythos within the DC Universe. He starred in the comic Green Lantern: Mosaic, of which DC published 18 issues between June 1992 and November 1993. Additionally, he was the primary character in Green Lantern vol. 2 from issues #182 through #200, when Jordan relinquished his place in the Corps (1984–1986). He is one of DC's first black costumed superheroes.[citation needed]

He was featured as one of the lead characters on the television cartoon Justice League from 2001 until 2004. He continued to appear on the show's 2004–2006 sequel, Justice League Unlimited. As of 2013, John Stewart is the primary character of Green Lantern Corps.

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[/FONT]John Stewart defeats Guy Gardner in single combat and his group of super villains retreat!


Here is some history for john stewart.
http://greenlantern.co/essential-reading-and-viewing/green-lantern-182-200/



Now we could get back on topic.

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[Dr. Evil]

IF DC wants to make a cinematic universe, they need to beat Marvel to the punch by having a John Stewart Green Lantern solo flick while Marvel wavers back and forth on deciding what to do with Black Panther.

 

[brainchild81]

Ditto. WB should have done it years ago. A good John Stewart flick would win on so many levels.

 

[NosfeRomas]

They need to get in touch with Idris Elba, fast !!

 

[cleverusername8]

Even if they do pursue a John Stewart movie, they do still need to tread lightly with throwing around the name "Green Lantern". Let's not forget that it wasn't the character himself that made people dislike the movie. I heard many negative comments surrounding the concept of the character - people think it's stupid that he makes shapes with green light to fight aliens. And then there's the problem of handling the Corps in a non-cheesy way. Both of these issues can be coped with, but it'll require a good amount of effort on WB's part.

I think they should shelf Green Lantern solo movies until we at least have Wonder Woman and Flash series underway. Those two are long overdue and haven't had their chance at the big screen yet.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Exactly.

I actually wonder if we will even have GL in the Justice League.

I don't think GAs would care.

Avengers didn't have Antman or Wasp afterall.

 

[jaymes_e06]

They need to get in touch with Idris Elba, fast !!

If he doesn't want the part Will Smith perhaps? Or Terrance Howard to stick it to Marvel since he's obviously still butt hurt they recast him.

 

[NosfeRomas]

No. Will Smith has lost touch big time and i can't see him as John Stewart.

If they can't get the best (Elba) they should try Mos Def, Chiwetel Ejiofor or Anthony Mackie.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Howard is a good actor but don't nobody want his whinning ass in their big budget movie. He is truly a hot mess.

 

[NosfeRomas]

Howard is a good actor but don't nobody want his whinning ass in their big budget movie. He is truly a hot mess.

That's true. The guy came off after 3 years to complain about Iron Man 2 and RDJ. Come on, forget it dude and move on.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Mos Def? Really that's better than Smith and Howard.... BWAHAHAHA! That was a joke right?

 

[NosfeRomas]

He is a decent actor. Better than Smith and Howard ? No. But i don't care for Will Smith anymore. He is really pathetic trying to promote his talentless family and his scientologists friends and he just doesn't fit John Stewart.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Mos Def is not a leading man, he's okay in bit parts and that's it. And what makes you think Smith would even be remotely interested in the role?

 

[jaymes_e06]

He might due to the fact his last film was not the hit everyone in his camp would have expected. Will might want to align himself with a more sure fire hit by doing a film that will lead to the success of The Avengers (in theory at least).

 

[TommyJones1945]

mace1: He wasn't an official member. Kyle was. Replacing Hal for a few one-three missions doesn't equal membership status. If I were to go by that logic, then Thanos is a member of the GotU because he recently helped them out that one time. And why did post all that? and how the heck does that have anything to do with what I asked?

IF DC wants to make a cinematic universe, they need to beat Marvel to the punch by having a John Stewart Green Lantern solo flick while Marvel wavers back and forth on deciding what to do with Black Panther.

I thought we're talking about a recast for the Justice league movie. The chances for any GL movie before the JL are slim, especially when you consider the fact that its set for 2017, while the Flash and WW still need their introduction. Not to mention the timeframe btw 2015 and 2017.

 

[brainchild81]

He is a decent actor. Better than Smith and Howard ? No. But i don't care for Will Smith anymore. He is really pathetic trying to promote his talentless family and his scientologists friends and he just doesn't fit John Stewart.

I still wouldn't mind seeing Common get the part. I don't hate Will Smith, but I still don't see him as JS

Even if they do pursue a John Stewart movie, they do still need to tread lightly with throwing around the name "Green Lantern". Let's not forget that it wasn't the character himself that made people dislike the movie. I heard many negative comments surrounding the concept of the character - people think it's stupid that he makes shapes with green light to fight aliens. And then there's the problem of handling the Corps in a non-cheesy way. Both of these issues can be coped with, but it'll require a good amount of effort on WB's part.

I think they should shelf Green Lantern solo movies until we at least have Wonder Woman and Flash series underway. Those two are long overdue and haven't had their chance at the big screen yet.

Pretty much agreed on the concept. I didn't give a damn about it until JL/JLU. I've said b4 that it might not be the GA's cup of tea, but having a goofy looking character w/a stupid looking mask probably didn't help gain favor w/those who might have at least gave it a chance if the main character looked cooler. The best time for a JS film would have been the 1st GL film. It would have been a bit of an uphill battle even then because of the concept, but it's gonna be much more difficult now that Hal's lameass film did so much damage. They'd be better off letting JS redeem the GL brand in the JL movie & then giving him his own film sometime after. They'd probably still have plenty of time to get it done b4 Marvel does a Black Panther film. I still have serious doubts about WB/DC making big money w/WW unless the film is somehow EXTREMELY good. I like Flash, but I keep thinking WB/DC would just **** it up if they made a Flash film

 

[jaymes_e06]

Common is fine but Mos Def just threw me for a loop.