Justice League Re-cast Hal Jordan for JL movie? Yay or Nay? - Part 1

Basically the summary is how can people really say they are a fan of John Stewart if all they want for the character is to be Hal Jordan's black sidekick.

I sort of agree but that's more about bad writing. The book is called green lantern not Hal Jordan so if he takes up too much screen time that's the writers fault.

As a viewer though I would love to see more of John
 
Basically the summary is how can people really say they are a fan of John Stewart if all they want for the character is to be Hal Jordan's black sidekick.

I sort of agree but that's more about bad writing. The book is called green lantern not Hal Jordan so if he takes up too much screen time that's the writers fault.

As a viewer though I would love to see more of John

John is the lead character in the Green Lantern Corps title, while Hal is the lead on GL.
 
John Stewart can be GL in JL/BvS, while Hal should get his own tv show in the Arrowverse
 
So far my very top favorite superheros.
Blue marvel
John stewart

Next
Could be a tie -Icon,powerbolt and maxum.

Then next COULD BE a tie with this group.
Synch,fire storm(Jason Rusch)and black panther.


Anyway after blue marvel and john stewart it's hard to say the order and could change in the future but for now that's the order.



As for john stewart i would like to see him live on tv and film.
 
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John Stewart can be GL in JL/BvS, while Hal should get his own tv show in the Arrowverse

Anyway after blue marvel and john stewart it's hard to say the order and could change in the future but for now that's the order.



As for john stewart i would like to see him live on tv and film.

I just hope that Geoff Johns leaving the Lanternverse doesn't effect John Stewart's chances of getting a spot on some live DC production at some point. Sales have fallen dramatically since GJ left, with John, Kyle, and Guy's titles flirting with dangerously low numbers.
 
I found this interesting.

Disingenuous John Stewart “Fans” + July 2014 Solicitations
by Desh on April 23, 2014

I think this why i am becoming more of or have become more of blue marvel fan recently then green lantern or john stewart fan.
I maybe HAVE BECOME MORE OF a fan of ICON then john stewart at this point.
They could be tie however,hard to say still.

I have already become more of a marvel fan again anyway recently.

To some john will always be seen as a backup or replacement.

That's why i am becoming a little bit more of a fan of original superheros that are really powerful then those that are just backups and really powerful,black or white etc....

I realize overtime superheros that start out as backup's or replacements but still have the same title is always seen by some as not as good or not the real one.

John stewart join another group briefly called the darkststars and had another title.
Maybe he should have just stayed with THEM.

John stewart is still a great character,so i am still sticking with him as one of my top favorites,but he is not at top top any more,but all this talk i hear OR READ from some saying that john is not a true green lantern etc.. just makes me want to be more of a fan of a few other superheros that are really powerful,AND have a more independent or independent and original origin LIKE some of the ONES I just mention above.


I guess john stewart may not show up as green lantern in the big screen after all.
Anyway i never thought i would rather see a blue marvel movie or maybe even icon movie before a john stewart movie now.
Wow things have changed.

Blue marvel or the new captain universe may show up on the big screen or small sceen in live action before wb/dc puts out a john stewart movie or even him showing up at all in live action.

Heck i read or heard they were going to kill john stewart off,and for me that made things abit worse.
Of course dc said no,so it's hard to say if they really were going to do it or not.
Anyway he is not treated as badly as before in comics under Geoff john's writing but still some of the damage for me was done.

Note- i started out as dc fan when i was really young because i knew less a about marvel,but over time i became more of a marvel fan,but i stop buying comics for while and lost track,so i did not know what was going on in marvel and dc .

The justice league cartoon with john stewart overtime made ME more of fan of dc again and tie TO marvel,but recently i started to become a little bit more of a DC fan mainly because of john stewart.

SINCE i lost track what marvel was doing i only caught up abit recently and i realized what they have done and still doing so i changed my mind recently again,and now i am more of a marvel fan again.

The superheros/characters in marvel on average just interest me abit more again now.

Anyway to read comments what others think open link below.

http://greenlantern.co/disingenuous-john-stewart-fans-july-2014-solicitations/
Interesting stuff. I gotta agree, things seem weird w/the way they do John. I've heard that when he originally was created, sales went up and that for some reason the guys running DC at the time put an end to it. I wouldn't be surprised if that stuff about planning to off John was true. DC could just be doing damage control in saying they weren't planning to kill him.

I'm honestly thinking that many who don't want John to get a real chance to shine in live action aren't afraid it'll fail. They're afraid it'll succeed. It'll be another JL/JLU thing where John gets more popularity w/ the mainstream than Hal can & they'll have to put up w/a guy who isn't #1 in their eyes being #1 in the GA eye. I also agree that the expensive failure of Hal's movie & show is a good thing. I want them to know that this "YOU WILL LIKE HAL JORDAN!" policy is only pleasing to a very small number of people and actually against their best interest.


So far my very top favorite superheros.
Blue marvel
John stewart

Next
Could be a tie -Icon,powerbolt and maxum.

Then next COULD BE a tie with this group.
Synch,fire storm(Jason Rusch)and black panther.


Anyway after blue marvel and john stewart it's hard to say the order and could change in the future but for now that's the order.



As for john stewart i would like to see him live on tv and film.
I've always been & will always be more of a Marvel fan. They have the best characters. Seems like every time I try to give DC comics a chance they find some way to make me regret it. However, they kick the crap out of Marvel when it comes to animation more often than not. The DCAU worked on every level. Nothing seemed forced like things do now w/some of this New 52 stuff. If they made the films more like the DCAU, they'd fare much better against Marvel than they have.

Went to Free Comic Book Day earlier this month. Trying to get back into Marvel now(and comics in general) that Parker is getting his body back. My friend who's a big Supes fan pointed out a Smallville book where Clark gets a power ring. Looks like John Stewart comes to sort every thing out. I lost touch w/that show & when I came back to see the finale it was horrible but now part of me wishes it had continued. My opinion of John Stewart will remain the same no matter how much Didio & Geoff neglect him or how much haters diss him.

I'd never heard of Blue Marvel until you mentioned him. I'll try to read some of his stuff, although I'm not normally a fan of extremely powerful characters. Spidey's always gonna be tops on my list. Black Panther & JS are in my top ten for sure, just not sure where I place them.
 
Interesting stuff. I gotta agree, things seem weird w/the way they do John. I've heard that when he originally was created, sales went up and that for some reason the guys running DC at the time put an end to it. I wouldn't be surprised if that stuff about planning to off John was true. DC could just be doing damage control in saying they weren't planning to kill him.

I'm honestly thinking that many who don't want John to get a real chance to shine in live action aren't afraid it'll fail. They're afraid it'll succeed. It'll be another JL/JLU thing where John gets more popularity w/ the mainstream than Hal can & they'll have to put up w/a guy who isn't #1 in their eyes being #1 in the GA eye. I also agree that the expensive failure of Hal's movie & show is a good thing. I want them to know that this "YOU WILL LIKE HAL JORDAN!" policy is only pleasing to a very small number of people and actually against their best interest.


I've always been & will always be more of a Marvel fan. They have the best characters. Seems like every time I try to give DC comics a chance they find some way to make me regret it. However, they kick the crap out of Marvel when it comes to animation more often than not. The DCAU worked on every level. Nothing seemed forced like things do now w/some of this New 52 stuff. If they made the films more like the DCAU, they'd fare much better against Marvel than they have.

Went to Free Comic Book Day earlier this month. Trying to get back into Marvel now(and comics in general) that Parker is getting his body back. My friend who's a big Supes fan pointed out a Smallville book where Clark gets a power ring. Looks like John Stewart comes to sort every thing out. I lost touch w/that show & when I came back to see the finale it was horrible but now part of me wishes it had continued. My opinion of John Stewart will remain the same no matter how much Didio & Geoff neglect him or how much haters diss him.

I'd never heard of Blue Marvel until you mentioned him. I'll try to read some of his stuff, although I'm not normally a fan of extremely powerful characters. Spidey's always gonna be tops on my list. Black Panther & JS are in my top ten for sure, just not sure where I place them.

Good post.

I really would like to see a movie, tv show, solo animation or live mini-series of all my top favorites i mention above.I would really like them in team films or tv shows etc... too.

Of course john stewart has been shown in animation and the jason firestorm but still would like to see more of them.

I tend to be a really big fan of really powerful superheros on average,that's my cup of tea.
Of course the black panther is on my list that i mention above,so he is an exception.

So i guess other factors come up stronger for black panther for me other then powers in this case.

It could be he is/was a king thing,his story,he is really smart and his country( a african nation) is the most advanced nation in marvel earth etc...


The black panther could get more powerful however when he use certain armorers.

As for the animation,you right about that.

The marvel superhero tv shows however tend to be closer on the level of the DC superhero tv shows then thier movie animation.

The next post i will give some rating.
 
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You mention something that's rarely brought up in these forums.
Here is why some folks tend to like superheros more powerful and others less so.
It's interesting view on things.
I TEND TO LIKE MY SUPERHEROES really powerful,SO IF THERE IS A BLACK ONE,i am going to relate or have more of a interest more then a superhero that's not as powerful or no powers.

I have a friend that's more like you and tends like his superheros with little or no powers,but i like them more on average with them.


Here is some views.
It's a interesting debate or views.

My views are closer to babybro.
It's a blue marvel/BM chat dealing with marvel comics.
It's a fun debate,enjoy.:yay:









Quote Originally Posted by Blade X View Post
The only problem I have with BM's powers is that they are too generic and "Superman like". This wouldn't be such a big problem for me if BM had a twist on his powers like Ultra Boy and Star Brand. I think that it would have been cool if all of BM's powers (and his power levels) were completely controlled by his mind and will power. I think that it would be cool if BM's powers, like Star Brand's powers, would only work when he wills them to work by "powering up" like the characters in DRAGON BALL Z.
babybro
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It could be because Im also a dc fan but I love the fact that hes a complete brick. Willing his power to a specific points has too many defects. What if he isnt paying attention and while he's not paying attention, he get shot by a gun. Because he isnt powered up, he's done. For me, I think its cool that we finally have a black high powered brick, that doesnt require will power or raising to new levels just to be able to compete with the higher tier bricks. He's already and always will be there. No will power required. He just possess the powers to be able to compete with Thor and Hulk. Besides, Gentle is already more like that, seeing as he can reach to class 100 power but he has to power himself up to do it, plus it provides dangerous consequences when he did reach it's level.
Blade X
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IMO, ultra powerful near indestructible Superman like characters who operate on earth, aren't all that interesting. On the flip side, I think that those type of characters work best if they live and operate in outer space (like the Silver Surfer does).
babybro
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Yeah, im the exact opposite. I dont like peak human or realistic characters like batman, bp, dare devil and etc, they arent that interesting for me. The really powerful characters like blue marvel, hulk, thor, supes, captain marvel, are my cup of tea. Those the characters that I enjoy. And thats the thing, everybody have different tastes. So that's why I appreciate when creators such as kevin make characters that is tailored more towards the taste of individuals who like really powerful characters.
Ikonic
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Excellent post, babybro.
AllisterH -
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Not at marvel though.
Keep in mind that in marvel, the really powerful heroes like Thor and Surfer were almost ALWAYS placed outside of Earth.
Indeed, look at Thor as a prime example.
I would hazard a guess that easily 65% of Thor's adventures take place off of Earth where he's involved with either Asgardian motifs and/or space adventures.
Hell, throw in the Asgard powered foes from Earth like Absorbing Man and the Wrecking Crew and frankly, Thor doesn't DO "earth" stories.
This has always been a defininig difference between Marvel and DC I think. Marvel heroes AT BEST should only be equal to the villains in terms of power.
Let DC have the Superman fighting a mugger scenarios.
EDIT: The only character I can see as "Indestructible" is of course Classic ERa Juggernaut
XPac
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It's sucky that there are so few villains at that level. I can think of maybe 5 villains (outside of the gods and cosmics) which are in that league. And that number is shrinking with Abomination dead and Juggernaut turning good AGAIN.
Hopefully if Marvel is plugging in more Superman-ish characters, they'll at least start upgrading the villains more.
babybro
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That's not true. A lot of Thor battles are in Asgardian because he's Asgardian, just like a lot of Hercules battle takes place in greek mythology areas because that's the pantheon he belongs to. But Hulk for example, is a Earth characters, and as such most of his adventures take place on earth. Same with She Hulk, Wonder Man, Ms Marvel and etc. Now that's not to say Hulk doesn't have space adventurers just like Thor does have his Earth Adventurers. But essentially their bases determines where their adventurers are, not their power level.

So again, going back to my original point. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Some fans of more street level characters have this sense of entitlement that powerful characters doesn't belong on earth, which by doing that, marvel essentially alienates a fanbase. DC has supes and wonder woman, but that doesn't stop the bat family from being one of the biggest families in dc.
 
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The thread for that debate or views was deleted.
No bad,but here is the link.
The reason why is given once you open the link.


Blue Marvel Power Stats are in, and boy is he a tough cookie!



This thread was deleted too.

It had some really interesting chat here too.

I wish i could have posted these links in this forum before they deleted the threads.

Blue-Marvel-Mighty-Avenger-Appreciation

[FONT=Verdana, Arial]http://forums.comicbookresources.co...lue-Marvel-Mighty-Avenger-Appreciation/page16[/FONT]
 
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Good post.

I really would like to see a movie, tv show, solo animation or live mini-series of all my top favorites i mention above.I would really like them in team films or tv shows etc... too.

Of course john stewart has been shown in animation and the jason firestorm but still would like to see more of them

I tend to be a really big fan of really powerful superheros on average,that's my cup of tea,of course the black panther is on my list that i mention above,so he is an exception.

So i guess other factors come up stronger for black panther for me other then powers in this case.

It could be he is/was a king thing,his story,he is really smart and his country( a african nation) is the most advanced nation in marvel earth etc...
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Avengers would have been much better served with Panther instead of Hawkeye. His costume wouldn't have been a huge challenge, and we could have seen similar agility visuals as Sony does with Spider-man. Plus, T'Challa's constant inner struggle between his duty as a leader and his inclination to be a hero would have been a lot more interesting than Barton's character.
 
Here are some of the different ratings for some of the superhero animated series, stuff from the comics etc...over the years.

Spider-Man (TV Series 1994–1998) - IMDb
Rating: 8.3/10 - ‎9,913 votes
4 stars

Spider-Man: The Animated Series - TV.com
Rating: 8.8/10 - ‎2,089 votes
4 1/2 stars



Silver Surfer (TV Series 1998–1999) - IMDb
Rating: 7.1/10 - ‎799 votes
3 1/2 stars

The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (TV Series 2010 ...
Rating: 8.5/10 - ‎6,461 votes
4 stars
8.8/10-TV.com
4 1/2 stars



Green Lantern: The Animated Series
Rating 8.2/10-IMDb
4 stars

Justice League (TV Series 2001–2006) - IMDb
Rating: 8.6/10 - ‎16,671 votes
4 1/2 stars


Superman (TV Series 1996–2000) - IMDb
Rating: 8.2/10 - ‎6,055 votes
4 stars

Batman: The Animated Series (TV Series 1992–1998) - IMDb
Rating: 9/10 - ‎34,058 votes
4 1/2 stars
Batman: The Animated Series - TV.com
Rating: 8.9/10 - ‎3,727 votes
4 1/2 stars

Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes (TV Series 2006 ...
Rating: 6.9/10 - ‎849 votes
3 1/2 stars

Fantastic Four (TV Series 1994–1996) - IMDb
Rating: 6.4/10 - ‎1,311 votes
3 stars


Iron Man (TV Series 1994–1996) - IMDb
Rating: 6.8/10 - ‎1,192 votes
3 1/2 stars

The Incredible Hulk (TV Series 1996–1998) - IMDb
Rating: 6.8/10 - ‎1,221 votes
3 1/2 stars

film/movie
The Incredible Hulk -2008
6.9/10-IMDb
67%-Rotten Tomatoes
3 1/2 stars

The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Real average rating is 6.2
3 STARS.

Audience 72% like it.
3.6/5

3 1/2 half stars


Marvel's Avengers Assemble (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb
Rating: 6.7/10 - ‎1,178 votes
3 1/2 stars







Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb
Rating: 6.4/10 - ‎506 votes
3 stars

This should be 3 1/2 stars since it has 6.5 out of 10
Marvel's Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. - TV.com
Rating: 6.5/10 - ‎25 votes
3 stars


Wolverine and the X-Men
8.1/10-IMDb
4 STARS

The Spectacular Spider-Man (TV Series 2008–2009) - IMDb
Rating: 8.1/10 - ‎4,369 votes
4 stars

The Spectacular Spider-Man
8.7/10-TV.com
4 1/2 stars


The Batman (TV Series 2004–2008) - IMDb
7.2/10-IMDb
3 1/2 stars
8.2/10-TV.com
4 1/2 stars

Beware the Batman (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb
7.5/10-IMDb
4 stars



Legion of Super Heroes (TV Series 2006– ) - IMDb
Rating: 7.1/10 - ‎689 votes
3 1/2 stars


Legion of Super Heroes - TV.com
Rating: 8.7/10 - ‎715 votes
4 1/2 stars




Beast Wars: Transformers (TV Series 1996–1999) - IMDb
Rating: 8.2/10 - ‎5,170 votes
4 STARS


The Transformers: The Movie (1986) - IMDb
Rating: 7.4/10 - ‎28,194 votes

3 1/2 STARS

LIVE MOVIE
Transformers (2007) - IMDb
Rating: 7.2/10 - ‎401,081 votes
3 1/2 STARS


G.I. Joe (TV Series 1985–1986) - IMDb
Rating: 7.9/10 - ‎2,540 votes
4 STARS


The Transformers (TV Series 1984–1987) - IMDb
Rating: 8/10 - ‎12,436 votes
4 stars

Transformers: Animated (TV Series 2007– ) - IMDb
Rating: 6.7/10 - ‎957 votes
3 1/2 stars

Static Shock (TV Series 2000–2004) - IMDb
Rating: 7.3/10 - ‎2,342 votes
3 1/2 stars

Static Shock - TV.com
Rating: 8.7/10 - ‎798 votes
4 1/2 stars

Batman Beyond (TV Series 1999–2001) - IMDb
Rating: 8.1/10 - ‎12,000 votes
4 stars

Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends (TV Series 1981 ...
Rating: 7.4/10 - ‎876 votes

3 1/2 stars

cartoon
The Incredible Hulk (TV Series 1982– ) - IMDb
Rating: 6.9/10 - ‎652 votes
3 1/2 stars

live action
The Incredible Hulk (TV Series 1978–1982) - IMDb
Rating: 7/10 - ‎6,499 votes
3 1/2 stars



cartoon
The Incredible Hulk (1982) - TV.com
Rating: 7.9/10 - ‎131 votes
4 stars


Hulk (TV Series 1966– ) - IMDb
Rating: 6.4/10 - ‎299 votes
3 stars


Beast Machines: Transformers (TV Series 1999–2001) - IMDb
Rating: 6.8/10 - ‎1,285 votes
3 1/2 stars
8.1/10-TV.com
4 stars

G.I. Joe Extreme
5.8/10-IMDb
3 stars
6.4/10-TV.com
3 stars

G.I. Joe: Resolute (TV Series 2009– ) - IMDb
Rating: 7.6/10 - ‎553 votes
4 stars

G.I. Joe: Renegades (TV Series 2010– ) - IMDb
Rating: 7.2/10 - ‎527 votes
3 1/2 stars

G.I. Joe: Sigma 6

4.2/10-IMDb
2 stars

7.2/10-TV.com
3 1/2 stars


Transformers: Rescue Bots (TV Series 2011– ) - IMDb
7.7/10-IMDb
4 stars

Thundercats (TV Series 2011– ) - IMDb

Rating: 7.9/10 - ‎4,266 votes
4 stars

Thundercats (TV Series 1985–1989) - IMDb
Rating: 7.9/10 - ‎9,063 votes
4 stars

Voltron: Defender of the Universe (TV Series 1984– ) - IMDb
8/10-IMDb
4 stars

She-Ra: Princess of Power
6.7/10-IMDb
3 1/2 stars

Voltron Force (TV Series 2011– ) - IMDb
6.9/10-IMDb
3 1/2 stars

Voltron: The Third Dimension (TV Series 1998–2000) - IMDb
Voltron: The Third Dimension
7.4/10-TV.com
3 1/2 stars
6.6/10-IMDb
3 1/2 stars

Masters of the Universe vs. the Snake Men (TV Series 2002 ...
7.4/10-IMDb
3 1/2 stars
There are other he-man shows but you will to look them up to find thier ratings

X-Men (TV Series 1992–1997) - IMDb
Rating: 8.5/10 - ‎14,915 votes
This should say 4 1/2 star but whatever.

X-Men - TV.com
Rating: 8.8/10 - ‎3,108 votes
4 1/2 stars


X-Men: Evolution (TV Series 2000–2003) - IMDb
Rating: 8/10 - ‎4,748 votes
4 stars
8.8/10-TV.com
4 1/2 stars
 
Avengers would have been much better served with Panther instead of Hawkeye. His costume wouldn't have been a huge challenge, and we could have seen similar agility visuals as Sony does with Spider-man. Plus, T'Challa's constant inner struggle between his duty as a leader and his inclination to be a hero would have been a lot more interesting than Barton's character.

I know and i agree.
I WOULD RATHER HAVE HAD BLACK PANTHER THEN HAWKEYE,BUT THAT'S ME.

Folks forget the Avengers movie universe is different from the comics ,so any marvel superhero could be shown from older ones to any superhero that's recent.
Just like the x-men movies and cartoons.

Not even the defenders show or mini-series coming out on netflix is the original defenders.

If Joss Whedon wanted to he could have had Monica Rambeau in the first film too or not have black widow.


He could have her by the 3rd film with blue marvel or hyperion etc..

So far the Comic book movies are based off the comics.
They are not really fully faithful stories and are not mostly for comic or hardcore comic readers anyway.

For the justice league movie coming out john stewart still could be shown without hal,or both could be in it.

Even Icon OR Vixen OR BOTH COULD BE IN IT INSTEAD OF HAWKMAN OR AQUAMAN.

The only superhero comic book movie i could think of that i seen aimed for both comic or or maybe hardcore comic readers was the watchmen movie.

It's the most faithful comic movie i seen so far,and even then there was some changes and i think still belong to it's own universe,maybe because of some of those changes.

Hard to say,i will have to look up the dc multiverse.










Just look at the different universes of marvel here.

Avengers - Marvel Comics Database
 
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Here some interesting chat in another thread.

Are the films now the definitive versions of these characters?

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=478973

For a few characters, yes, but not any of the GLs.

I'd say: Geoff Johns' Hal Jordan, Ron Marz's original Kyle Rayner, Gerard Jones/Mosaic's John Stewart are the definitive versions of those characters.

Guy? Tough call. Some fans seemed to really like the yellow-ringed Guy who started in Guy Gardner Reborn. Other people liked the Vuldarian Guy. My taste would be the post-Rebirth Guy, but his history is a weird, winding road that doesn't quite have a marquee story or version.
 
The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes TV Series 2010
8.5/10
This should be 4 1/2 stars.

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Watchmen comment.
It's the most faithful (superhero)comic movie i seen so far,and even then there was some changes and i think still belong to it's own universe,maybe because of some of those changes.

I have not seen kickass movie yet,or i have not read the comic so i do not know how faithful that one is too the comic
 
For a few characters, yes, but not any of the GLs.

I'd say: Geoff Johns' Hal Jordan, Ron Marz's original Kyle Rayner, Gerard Jones/Mosaic's John Stewart are the definitive versions of those characters.

Guy? Tough call. Some fans seemed to really like the yellow-ringed Guy who started in Guy Gardner Reborn. Other people liked the Vuldarian Guy. My taste would be the post-Rebirth Guy, but his history is a weird, winding road that doesn't quite have a marquee story or version.

Interesting.
 
The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes TV Series 2010
8.5/10
This should be 4 1/2 stars.

I think it's safe to say that Avengers Assemble is a downgrade from EMH. AA's character designs are a bit more realistic, but the show is clearly geared towards young kids. In the last episode, Ringmaster took control of several Avengers. That's the 4th time, to my recollection, that one or more of the team has been mind-controlled against other members. The writers rely on that plot device way too much.
 
I think it's safe to say that Avengers Assemble is a downgrade from EMH. AA's character designs are a bit more realistic, but the show is clearly geared towards young kids. In the last episode, Ringmaster took control of several Avengers. That's the 4th time, to my recollection, that one or more of the team has been mind-controlled against other members. The writers rely on that plot device way too much.
Yeah, EMH is overall a better show,but i do enjoy the new one too,but not as much ON AVERAGE as EMH.
 
Right now i am catching up on Hulk and the Agents of S M A S H.
 
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The fan theory of the Arrow character John Diggle really being Green Lantern John Stewart has reached Arrow star Stephen Amell, and he weighs in on the notion, which seems to be growing in popularity. During a Facebook Q & A session, Amell was shown a fan manipulation image depicting Diggle decked out in Green Lantern garb. To that, he said:


“I mean it looks good. And if we know anything about television shows, if it looks good, it has a much better chance of happening.”


Fans have been suggesting that “Diggle” may be a nickname given to John during his time in the military, and his true last name is Stewart. It would certainly be cool to have John Stewart appearing regularly on a new television show again, and at the very least, this theory helps keep the character’s name in the public conscious. The media still clearly cares about the character, as he’s gotten much buzz and attention lately, and many people in the television and movie businesses have directly addressed him, which is always a good sign.


Here are some articles that elaborate on the John “Diggle” Stewart theories:
John Diggle Is Actually John Stewart Theorized As Flash TV Show Crossover With GL Corps Member Rumored!


Is John Diggle Really Going to be Green Lantern On ‘Arrow?’


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2nd May 2014


Joshua Hale Fialkov Confirms DC Editorial Planned to Kill Green Lantern John Stewart

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After roughly one year, Joshua Hale Fialkov -who was once the writer of Green Lantern Corps and Red Lanterns, but who quit before a single issue of his shipped- stepped forward to shed some light on the fiasco involving DC Comics’ edict to kill Green Lantern John Stewart. In an interview with Bleeding Cool, Fialkov admitted it was DC editorial’s idea to kill off their most well-known and beloved minority character, and quite possibly their most recognized Green Lantern. This is the first official confirmation from any of the parties involved.


From Bleeding Cool:


“RJ: So, exactly who was it who told you to kill off John Stewart? You don’t get these questions at CBR, I know.


JHF: Editorial felt that the story we were telling wasn’t ‘compelling enough’ and suggested that the murder of John Stewart would be. I disagreed.

It was all so long ago, but it still bums me out. I love those characters, and wanted to be a part of the launch so badly.


RJ: I notice he is now alive in the Futures End comic set thirty years in the future.


JHF: I know that those plans all got scuttled after I left, but, that wasn’t enough for them to ask me back.


RJ: Is there any way you could ever see yourself going back?


JHF: It was a toxic environment working there when I did. I was walking with a cane and suffering from migraines two or three times a week from all the stress. After I quit, that all went away.
I’ve lost probably 50 pounds, and, am training for a marathon.


RJ: They should probably bottle that as medication.


JHF: Just being out from under the negative energy contributed a lot of that change.


RJ: Tense, nervous headache? Cramps down the left side? Simply quit DC!


JHF: And let them make a PR mess out of it, completely vilifying themselves in the process, yes.”


Talking To Joshua Hale Fialkov About Hell, Atheism And Killing John Stewart


I’ve had a theory that the character Simon Baz -an Arab American Green Lantern- was meant to replace John Stewart, perhaps as an effort to keep John Stewart from being used in other media, like film, video games, and so on. DC could use Baz as a shield from accusations of racism if they killed John Stewart.


It’s well known that Green Lantern Hal Jordan -a favorite of DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer, Geoff Johns- hasn’t performed well in mainstream media, and that a great many people have asked for John Stewart to appear in film, animation, and so on. What’s the best way to keep John out of such projects and continue pushing Hal Jordan on audiences? Simply kill John Stewart in the comic books, of course!


Well, John Stewart fans, it’s been revealed. DC Comics has been intentionally trying to keep John Stewart down, and they’ve likely been doing this for many, many years. We did not imagine anything. We did not make up anything. We did not exaggerate anything. This stuff was really happening.



This makes me think rather low of DC Comics, because what it looks like is certain people at DC can’t stand the fact that many people recognize Green Lantern as a black person. That’s why they’ve shoved all this stuff at audiences starring the white Green Lantern, while attempting to bury John Stewart. What’s so hilarious is that audiences have shoved it right back in their face and have asked for the black one, and DC’s dirty secrets are coming out in the open.



Conversely, I have a lot of respect for Joshua Hale Fialkov. I think I speak for all John Stewart fans when I say how grateful we are for his great sacrifices. I’m very happy he’s doing much better now on a personal level, and I wish him all the best in his current and future endeavors.



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Smallville: Lantern Parts 4, 5, and 6 Review



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Bryan Q. Miller’s rendition of the Green Lantern mythos continues in the digital first series Smallville Season 11: Lantern. You know GreenLantern.Co wouldn’t miss reviewing this!





“Smallville: Lantern continues to be an enthralling reinvention of Green Lantern. It’s not that the concept has been completely altered or bastardized. Far from it! Rather, Miller takes the finer points of the concept down some alternate paths, which, in some regards, makes for a more streamlined approach than what we get in the mainstream DC universe continuity. One of the things that make it more simplified and neater is that there isn’t an excess of Earth Green Lanterns. Miller picks John Stewart and sticks with him and only him, and I really applaud the writer for that.”


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The fan theory of the Arrow character John Diggle really being Green Lantern John Stewart has reached Arrow star Stephen Amell, and he weighs in on the notion, which seems to be growing in popularity. During a Facebook Q & A session, Amell was shown a fan manipulation image depicting Diggle decked out in Green Lantern garb. To that, he said:

“I mean it looks good. And if we know anything about television shows, if it looks good, it has a much better chance of happening.”

>>> I'd be 100% behind that. I watch Arrow for the supporting characters because the main one is, and always will be, boring as drying paint. However, GL seems to mesh better with the Flash show conceptually. Once Arrow is opened up to power rings and aliens, there goes any chance
of keeping the show smaller-scaled and "grounded".


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JHF: Editorial felt that the story we were telling wasn’t ‘compelling enough’ and suggested that the murder of John Stewart would be. I disagreed.

It was all so long ago, but it still bums me out. I love those characters, and wanted to be a part of the launch so badly.


RJ: I notice he is now alive in the Futures End comic set thirty years in the future.


JHF: I know that those plans all got scuttled after I left, but, that wasn’t enough for them to ask me back.


RJ: Is there any way you could ever see yourself going back?


JHF: It was a toxic environment working there when I did. I was walking with a cane and suffering from migraines two or three times a week from all the stress. After I quit, that all went away.
I’ve lost probably 50 pounds, and, am training for a marathon.




Talking To Joshua Hale Fialkov About Hell, Atheism And Killing John Stewart


I’ve had a theory that the character Simon Baz -an Arab American Green Lantern- was meant to replace John Stewart, perhaps as an effort to keep John Stewart from being used in other media, like film, video games, and so on. DC could use Baz as a shield from accusations of racism if they killed John Stewart.


It’s well known that Green Lantern Hal Jordan -a favorite of DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer, Geoff Johns- hasn’t performed well in mainstream media, and that a great many people have asked for John Stewart to appear in film, animation, and so on. What’s the best way to keep John out of such projects and continue pushing Hal Jordan on audiences? Simply kill John Stewart in the comic books, of course!


Well, John Stewart fans, it’s been revealed. DC Comics has been intentionally trying to keep John Stewart down, and they’ve likely been doing this for many, many years. We did not imagine anything. We did not make up anything. We did not exaggerate anything. This stuff was really happening.



This makes me think rather low of DC Comics, because what it looks like is certain people at DC can’t stand the fact that many people recognize Green Lantern as a black person. That’s why they’ve shoved all this stuff at audiences starring the white Green Lantern, while attempting to bury John Stewart. What’s so hilarious is that audiences have shoved it right back in their face and have asked for the black one, and DC’s dirty secrets are coming out in the open.



Two points:

1) The assertion that "Hal hasn't done well in mainstream media" is just a reaction to the live-action movie's critical consensus.

2) DC isn't burying John, nor is the GL mythos afraid of showcasing diversity. In addition to John, GL features the Baz, the multi-ethnic Kyle Rayner, and the current gay Alan Scott. The GLC has always consisted of characters from different walks of life by the very nature of the concept of galactic peacekeepers.

If anyone deserves criticism, it's the FANS who are claiming to be John Stewart fans but are letting the current title that he's HEADLINING dwindle to dangerously low sales. Green Lantern Corps sold 26,640 copies last month. That's less than 1/2 of the readers the title had during the first few issues in 2011. If it loses another 6,000 readers, it will be in danger of cancellation. If people want John Stewart, they better prove it by actually supporting the character.
 
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Can you provide a link to your source(s) for Hal's DVD sales figures? 44mil for his live action debacle seems rather suspect.
 
Can you provide a link to your source(s) for Hal's DVD sales figures? 44mil for his live action debacle seems rather suspect.

I wasn't clear in my statement, it was $44 million in DVD/BluRay sales. Those are solid sales for 2 1/2 years. Here is the link:

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Green-Lantern#tab=video-sales

And here is another link about how GL became a comic book force in the last decade:

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/7-comic-book-superheroes-racking-up-the-sales.html/?a=viewall
 
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The fan theory of the Arrow character John Diggle really being Green Lantern John Stewart has reached Arrow star Stephen Amell, and he weighs in on the notion, which seems to be growing in popularity. During a Facebook Q & A session, Amell was shown a fan manipulation image depicting Diggle decked out in Green Lantern garb. To that, he said:
“I mean it looks good. And if we know anything about television shows, if it looks good, it has a much better chance of happening.”


Fans have been suggesting that “Diggle” may be a nickname given to John during his time in the military, and his true last name is Stewart. It would certainly be cool to have John Stewart appearing regularly on a new television show again, and at the very least, this theory helps keep the character’s name in the public conscious. The media still clearly cares about the character, as he’s gotten much buzz and attention lately, and many people in the television and movie businesses have directly addressed him, which is always a good sign.


Here are some articles that elaborate on the John “Diggle” Stewart theories:
John Diggle Is Actually John Stewart Theorized As Flash TV Show Crossover With GL Corps Member Rumored!


Is John Diggle Really Going to be Green Lantern On ‘Arrow?’
I like the Idea, but that horrible costume &silly domino mask have got to go. I like that the show doesn't seem to have much respect for the idea that a domino mask is sufficient enough to conceal one's identity. I wouldn't want JS being on the small screen to stop him from getting on the big screen though.
Joshua Hale Fialkov Confirms DC Editorial Planned to Kill Green Lantern John Stewart
After roughly one year, Joshua Hale Fialkov -who was once the writer of Green Lantern Corps and Red Lanterns, but who quit before a single issue of his shipped- stepped forward to shed some light on the fiasco involving DC Comics’ edict to kill Green Lantern John Stewart. In an interview with Bleeding Cool, Fialkov admitted it was DC editorial’s idea to kill off their most well-known and beloved minority character, and quite possibly their most recognized Green Lantern. This is the first official confirmation from any of the parties involved.


From Bleeding Cool:


“RJ: So, exactly who was it who told you to kill off John Stewart? You don’t get these questions at CBR, I know.


JHF: Editorial felt that the story we were telling wasn’t ‘compelling enough’ and suggested that the murder of John Stewart would be. I disagreed.

It was all so long ago, but it still bums me out. I love those characters, and wanted to be a part of the launch so badly.


RJ: I notice he is now alive in the Futures End comic set thirty years in the future.


JHF: I know that those plans all got scuttled after I left, but, that wasn’t enough for them to ask me back.


RJ: Is there any way you could ever see yourself going back?


JHF: It was a toxic environment working there when I did. I was walking with a cane and suffering from migraines two or three times a week from all the stress. After I quit, that all went away.
I’ve lost probably 50 pounds, and, am training for a marathon.


RJ: They should probably bottle that as medication.


JHF: Just being out from under the negative energy contributed a lot of that change.


RJ: Tense, nervous headache? Cramps down the left side? Simply quit DC!


JHF: And let them make a PR mess out of it, completely vilifying themselves in the process, yes.”


Talking To Joshua Hale Fialkov About Hell, Atheism And Killing John Stewart


I’ve had a theory that the character Simon Baz -an Arab American Green Lantern- was meant to replace John Stewart, perhaps as an effort to keep John Stewart from being used in other media, like film, video games, and so on. DC could use Baz as a shield from accusations of racism if they killed John Stewart.


It’s well known that Green Lantern Hal Jordan -a favorite of DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer, Geoff Johns- hasn’t performed well in mainstream media, and that a great many people have asked for John Stewart to appear in film, animation, and so on. What’s the best way to keep John out of such projects and continue pushing Hal Jordan on audiences? Simply kill John Stewart in the comic books, of course!


Well, John Stewart fans, it’s been revealed. DC Comics has been intentionally trying to keep John Stewart down, and they’ve likely been doing this for many, many years. We did not imagine anything. We did not make up anything. We did not exaggerate anything. This stuff was really happening.



This makes me think rather low of DC Comics, because what it looks like is certain people at DC can’t stand the fact that many people recognize Green Lantern as a black person. That’s why they’ve shoved all this stuff at audiences starring the white Green Lantern, while attempting to bury John Stewart. What’s so hilarious is that audiences have shoved it right back in their face and have asked for the black one, and DC’s dirty secrets are coming out in the open.



Conversely, I have a lot of respect for Joshua Hale Fialkov. I think I speak for all John Stewart fans when I say how grateful we are for his great sacrifices. I’m very happy he’s doing much better now on a personal level, and I wish him all the best in his current and future endeavors.



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Smallville: Lantern Parts 4, 5, and 6 Review
“Smallville: Lantern continues to be an enthralling reinvention of Green Lantern. It’s not that the concept has been completely altered or bastardized. Far from it! Rather, Miller takes the finer points of the concept down some alternate paths, which, in some regards, makes for a more streamlined approach than what we get in the mainstream DC universe continuity. One of the things that make it more simplified and neater is that there isn’t an excess of Earth Green Lanterns. Miller picks John Stewart and sticks with him and only him, and I really applaud the writer for that.”
I figured the story about them trying to off John was true. They've been using him to prop Hal up for quite some time now. One of John's coolest visual moments ever(I think this was during:Rebirth) was when he shined his light on Batman, making him look very un-intimidating. The sad thing about it is that while he was doing it, John was talking about how fearless Hal is. Yay. Any DC books I read from now on will be gifts from friends or read inside the comicbook store. Until JS has been cast for a live action film instead of Hal, I'll be seeing all DC films on a premium channel.
Two points:

1) The assertion that "Hal hasn't done well in mainstream media" is just a reaction to the live-action movie's critical consensus. Compare GL:First Flight, which sold made over 8 million DVD/BR domestically, to Batman/Superman public enemies, which sold just over 10 million. The live-action movie has also sold 44 million DVD/BR to date. That's a lot of people "not caring" by opening their wallets.

2) DC isn't burying John, nor is the GL mythos afraid of showcasing diversity. In addition to John, GL features the Arab Baz, the multi-ethnic Kyle Rayner, and the current gay Alan Scott. The GLC has always consisted of characters from different walks of life by the very nature of the concept of galactic peacekeepers.

If anyone deserves criticism, it's the FANS who are claiming to be John Stewart fans but are letting the current title that he's HEADLINING dwindle to dangerously low sales. Green Lantern Corps sold 26,640 copies last month. That's less than 1/2 of the readers the title had during the first few issues in 2011. If it loses another 6,000 readers, it will be in danger of cancellation. If people want John Stewart, they better prove it by actually supporting the character.

I wasn't clear in my statement, it was $44 million in DVD/BluRay sales. Those are solid sales for 2 1/2 years. Here is the link:
Thanks. That's more like it. Not really impressive considering that Cap:TFA made more than 2x that amount in DVD/BluRay sales. TIH made more than $44mil in BR/DVD sales too. Cap & TIH both had much smaller budgets also.

1)Direct-to-DVDs aren't mainstream. Hell, even after they came out you still had people going "Why'd they make him white" when his live action film was coming out. Hal's theatrical release failed miserably. IIRC his movie toys sold so poorly that retailers didn't wanna carry any more GL merch & his TV show got cancelled w/just one season because of it. Hal hasn't done well in mainstream media.

2)DC deserves ALL the criticism. Much of John's fanbase comes largely from JL/JLU fans like myself. DC hasn't really given John's JL/JLU fans much reason to buy the books. We see him as the top GL. Why should we support DC when they seem to take every opportunity they can to make sure to let us know how much they DON'T want him as the top GL? Why tf should I give DC my hard earned cash when they were planning to off him not too long ago? How do I know they won't off him as soon as they think it's "safe"? Before then all I heard about was him ****ing up, getting paralyzed, or trying too committ suicide. Doesn't sound too uplifting, does it?

And here is another link about how GL became a comic book force in the last decade:

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/7-comic-book-superheroes-racking-up-the-sales.html/?a=viewall
That's awesome. And it'll mean something if comicbook readers ever become the mainstream or the mainstream starts caring about comicbook sales. Until then, there's nothing to justify wasting further resources trying to get the mainstream to give a damn about Hal.
 
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