Resistance 2: 60 Player Matches, 8 Player Online Co-Op,

[The Guardian]

This isn't even about the game. I care nothing about the game, nor this console bullocks. This is all about Zenien and her insatiable desire to make absolutely ridiculous statements and then throw a fit and flail like a spoiled child.

I'm reaching wit's end.

CALM DOWN KID IT'S JUST A MESSAGE BOARD, IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT SOMEONE SAYS JUST IGNORE IT!!! I SEE ALLOT OF COMMENTS ON THE BOARDS THAT PISS ME OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE INSULTING SOMEONE NEEDLESSLY OVER SOMETHING SO TRIVIAL THAT IT'S JUST NOT WORTH GETTING UPSET ABOUT IT!!! MY FIRST INSTINCT IS TO JUMP IN AND DEFEND THEM, BUT AGE HAS TAUGHT ME THAT THE ONLY THING THAT WILL DO IS ESCALATE THE ARGUMENT, BECAUSE THE TOPIC THEY WERE DISCUSSING DOESN'T EVEN MATTER ANYMORE, NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT WHO'S RIGHT AND WHO'S WRONG!!! PEOPLE HERE CAN'T SEEM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITHOUT INSULTING EACH OTHER OVER STUPIDITY, WHICH IS WHY IN THE 7 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE I ONLY HAVE 2600 POSTS!!! I WISH PEOPLE WOULD TREAT EACH OTHER WITH MORE RESPECT AND KINDNESS AND NOT BE SO SARCASTIC AND CONDESCENDING ALL THE TIME, BUT I GUESS THAT'S ASKING TOO MUCH!!!

 

[블라스]

Only the power of the PS3 can give the women in God of War III the breast physics they need.

100% sold.
Honestly, now that I have been enjoying my 360, I've been thinking about a Ps3, but it's still too expensive, I hope the price goes down.

I've been wanting to try Warhawk ever since I saw IGN's video review.

 

[Fenrir]

Resistance would be fully able to look better than Crysis since games are more art driven than tech driven, in todays environment.

Just because a game has a better art direction doesn't automatically make it look better than another game that's pushing 3 times more detail than the other. Besides, I love how everyone dismisses Crysis' art direction without playing the zero gravity missions inside the alien enclave, thinking the whole goddamn game is just set only on the island like Far Cry. Way to sound ignorant, chumps.

Guess what has higher uality character models and environments than Crysis? Omg, Heavy Ran. Too bad so sad, it's all about art direction and budgetting recources.

Yeah, you're judging that off...THREE SCREENSHOTS OF EXTREME CLOSEUPS OF A CHARACTER'S EYES...IT'S ALL ABOUT THE EYES, MAN!

Heavy Rain's not a sandbox shooter. It's not going to have vast, lush vistas, or be able to render 15 enemies, or give your character enhanced powers, customizable weapons or controllable vehicles/planes or even any goddamn action or special effects. It would be little more than some point-n-click adventure game. So pulling such a feat off would hardly be impressive.

Heck, Killzone 2 looks better than Crysis, but your love of a realistically rendered jungle, not the technical aspects behind it, will probably have you say otherwise.

Yeah, if only that were true. Not only can Crysis render three times the size of levels and number of enemies on-screen at once than Killzone 2, but it also does so baring it all and not cheating its audience into thinking there's some ridiculous amount of detail hidden underneath all the color filtering and obscure lighting.

 

[Zenien]

The end result on screen is always a mixture of art direction and the technology behind it. We know that Crysis is an uber beast but that doesn't automatically mean that somethin running on less powerful hrdware will automatically always look worse, as you said it would. Because that's simply not the case.

Right, but as per heavy Rain we still have their earlier realtime demo of the game (and their updated model, at least, looks a lot better than that old one). Of course Heavy Rain isn't Crysis, they're fundamentally different games.

But pulling off what Crysis does, when it's running off of absurd suggested specs, is impressive? Resistance 2 is a very impressive game it it's own right, you shouldn't be making stilted comparisons for the sake of making stilted comparisons, simply because you find the notion of people being excited for Resistance 2 to be offensive, or something, but dashing the enthusiasm was definetly one of your desires with tat first post. DMC only said "Crysis smisys", there was nothing there to suggest that he was making a technical comparison, which you gleefully launched into. It wasn't enough for you to say "lol Crysis pwns" you decided to take it all a step or two furthr, didn't you. I mean seriously 'a serious sam clone'? Righht. "Crysis is better than a game no one has played yet!" Ok then.

"Based off of Resistance 1, whic I think sucks... etc"

Just don't waste people's time with that one either, please. :|


Individually rendered eyelashes on the ISA soldiers are actually the result of color filters, and not actually there at all!

Look, honestly, Crysis is obviously going to be pushing more around, that's what happens when your spec target is far and beyond anything most people can play your game at. The consoles will never have 2 gigs of ram to play with, thei specs are static, but that doesn't mean, with the ntaure of them being closed platforms, that you won't continually see very impressive things out of them, and like I said, porting Crysis would be a ram issue before it would be a GPU issue, they would have to massively rework their data pipeline (buzzword +1), considering these system have a fraction of the vailablee ram that Crysis was designed to run on. Just look at the 360 port of Supreme Commander.

 

[Fenrir]

That's it, you asked for it...

QUOTE WAR!!

The end result on screen is always a mixture of art direction and the technology behind it. We know that Crysis is an uber beast but that doesn't automatically mean that somethin running on less powerful hrdware will automatically always look worse, as you said it would. Because that's simply not the case.

That's exactly the case in this comparison. No matter how you try to spin it, Resistance gets raped by Crysis when it comes to visuals.

Right, but as per heavy Rain we still have their earlier realtime demo of the game (and their updated model, at least, looks a lot better than that old one). Of course Heavy Rain isn't Crysis, they're fundamentally different games.

Yeah, that's why those Heavy Rain screenshots are hardly impressive. I mean, yeah you can push a lot more detail when you've toned down the scale of the environments, have absolutely NO ACTION or special effects whatsoever, enemy A.I, advanced physics and whatnot. The CryEngine 2 is simply doing a lot more things than just trying to make everything look pretty.

But pulling off what Crysis does, when it's running off of absurd suggested specs, is impressive? Resistance 2 is a very impressive game it it's own right, you shouldn't be making stilted comparisons for the sake of making stilted comparisons, simply because you find the notion of people being excited for Resistance 2 to be offensive, or something, but dashing the enthusiasm was definetly one of your desires with tat first post.

Please, stop with this hypocritical B.S about hardware specs. Obviously the point IS that Crysis is a much better looking game BECAUSE it is running on superior hardware. It's the same logic behind you posting screenshots of Uncharted and KZ2 to show how PS3 has got more muscle than the 360. There is no such thing as honest, fair comparison on this board.

Awwww, your poor console got cruelly defiled by a multi-processor, multi GPU gaming beast? Go cry me a river.

DMC only said "Crysis smisys", there was nothing there to suggest that he was making a technical comparison, which you gleefully launched into. It wasn't enough for you to say "lol Crysis pwns" you decided to take it all a step or two furthr, didn't you. I mean seriously 'a serious sam clone'? Righht. "Crysis is better than a game no one has played yet!" Ok then.

He just said "Crysis smisys", yeah. And since everyone was gushing over how great Resistance 2 looked, it was a reasonable assumption on my part that he was comparing it to the visuals and massive scale of Crysis. I mean, what ELSE could he have meant?

And the Serious Sam clone in an alternate universe is a very appropriate statement. Let's see - tons of enemies overwhelming you in large environments, wierd weapons, brainless trigger happy shooting action, big-ass bosses...yup, it's Serious Sam all right.

Look, honestly, Crysis is obviously going to be pushing more around, that's what happens when your spec target is far and beyond anything most people can play your game at. The consoles will never have 2 gigs of ram to play with, thei specs are static, but that doesn't mean, with the ntaure of them being closed platforms, that you won't continually see very impressive things out of them, and like I said, porting Crysis would be a ram issue before it would be a GPU issue, they would have to massively rework their data pipeline (buzzword +1), considering these system have a fraction of the vailablee ram that Crysis was designed to run on. Just look at the 360 port of Supreme Commander.

Like I said, it's not fault that the PS3s and the 360s are *****es compared to the high-end PCs of today. Should've thought about that earlier before starting ******ed comparisons and entering into an argument with me over which game looked better.

 

[Fenrir]

Individually rendered eyelashes on the ISA soldiers are actually the result of color filters, and not actually there at all!

Wow, individually rendered EYELASHES!

Spoiler

Oh, I'm so sorry. I concede because clearly this:

looks SOOOOOOO much better than THIS:

Killzone 2 is drab and ugly compared to Crysis.

 

[Purple Prancer]

This thread is great. Greater than Resistance.

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Halo is to PS3 as Resistance is to 360.

Stop pulling out the hate card and just except that Resistance is a great game.

We did for Halo, but Halo 2 and Halo 3...well you guys can understand why we hate those games...they suck.

 

[Zenien]

Arggggggg

- Your opinion and beside the point

So Heavy Rain isn't impressive at all in any wa because it's a smaller scale game, no even from a modelling, of model complexity point of view? Nothing? Ok then.

Actually there's nothin hypocritical about what I've been saying, you're missing the point. Stop goin around *****ing up a thread with you being a *****e simply because you want to **** on people's enthusiasm. THere's no call for how you positioned your arguement in this thread, otherwise.

Aww people are excited for a game that's not Crysis running on a multi core multi GPU gaming right beast? Get over it. There was no call to launch into your antics the way you were. A simple "Crysis looks a lot better " would have sufficed. But obviously that wouldn't have acomplished what you set out to do, right.

And no, I didn't launch into any ******ed comparisons, I was simultaneously illustrating the value in distinct art design, and budgetting of resources. You're saying that because Crysis runs on what it's running on it's impossible for someting else to look better, which is laughable. ICO still looks better thn Area 52, as an extreme example, or how about Crisis Core looking better than a lot of PS2 games, or Age of Conan looking terrible compared to a lot of console games, or Team Fortress 2 looking better than UTIII if you gel with the artstyle of TF2. See you're not getting it, visuals are the end result and can very widley in appeal and well, look, mmkay?

So just stop being a *****e, calm down, and maybe, just maybe, stop discussing everything like Resistance 2 is sodomizing you with a jack hammer and that Crysis in your butch girlfriend coming in to protect you. :|

 

[Electro UK]

Wow, individually rendered EYELASHES!

Spoiler

Oh, I'm so sorry. I concede because clearly this:

looks SOOOOOOO much better than THIS:

Killzone 2 is drab and ugly compared to Crysis.

Yeah, that metal sheet he's leaning on does look pretty blurry.

 

[Spidey17]

Arggggggg

- Your opinion and beside the point

So Heavy Rain isn't impressive at all in any wa because it's a smaller scale game, no even from a modelling, of model complexity point of view? Nothing? Ok then.

Actually there's nothin hypocritical about what I've been saying, you're missing the point. Stop goin around *****ing up a thread with you being a *****e simply because you want to **** on people's enthusiasm. THere's no call for how you positioned your arguement in this thread, otherwise.

Aww people are excited for a game that's not Crysis running on a multi core multi GPU gaming right beast? Get over it. There was no call to launch into your antics the way you were. A simple "Crysis looks a lot better " would have sufficed. But obviously that wouldn't have acomplished what you set out to do, right.

And no, I didn't launch into any ******ed comparisons, I was simultaneously illustrating the value in distinct art design, and budgetting of resources. You're saying that because Crysis runs on what it's running on it's impossible for someting else to look better, which is laughable. ICO still looks better thn Area 52, as an extreme example, or how about Crisis Core looking better than a lot of PS2 games, or Age of Conan looking terrible compared to a lot of console games, or Team Fortress 2 looking better than UTIII if you gel with the artstyle of TF2. See you're not getting it, visuals are the end result and can very widley in appeal and well, look, mmkay?

So just stop being a *****e, calm down, and maybe, just maybe, stop discussing everything like Resistance 2 is sodomizing you with a jack hammer and that Crysis in your butch girlfriend coming in to protect you. :|

Did you really have to bring in sodomizing people into it? That's just cold, Zenien.

 

[Zenien]

We watched Clerks last night, ok?

 

[Fenrir]

You're saying that because Crysis runs on what it's running on it's impossible for someting else to look better, which is laughable.

When the f**k did I say or even imply anything like that? All I said was that Crysis rapes Resistance 2. I mean, I can understand you wanting to win the argument but I had no idea you were so desperate as to resort to such dishonest s**t trying to put words into mouth like that. Grow some f**king integrity, woman.

ICO still looks better thn Area 52, as an extreme example, or how about Crisis Core looking better than a lot of PS2 games, or Age of Conan looking terrible compared to a lot of console games, or Team Fortress 2 looking better than UTIII if you gel with the artstyle of TF2. See you're not getting it, visuals are the end result and can very widley in appeal and well, look, mmkay?

And that's what your pea-brain is failing to grasp every step of the way. You're using art direction as a factor here, but having not played the game, you have absolutely zero f**kin' idea about the art direction in Crysis. Again, did you play the mission inside the alien fortress in zero gravity? I mean, it's appalling how dumb you can be in your constant assumption that Crysis has crap art direction because it probably seems like it's nothing but some action trip on the beach like Far Cry. But hey, you wanna be the ostrich with her head buried in the sand? Fine by me.

So just stop being a *****e, calm down, and maybe, just maybe, stop discussing everything like Resistance 2 is sodomizing you with a jack hammer and that Crysis in your butch girlfriend coming in to protect you. :|

Hah, it's amusing how much I bother you that you, a homo, going to such extreme lengths as using the word "sodomize" as an insult. What goddamn irony.

 

[BatMatt]

not when she's a lesbian

 

[Fenrir]

not when she's a lesbian

That's what I said. Homo. As in homosexual.

 

[Zenien]

Sigh, Righto, sorry extro said that, not you.

But a for everythin else. Why are you just cherry pickin what you think you can ***** about instead of addressin what I said? Heck since when have I said tat Crysis has no art direction? That **** doesn't just make itself, no matter how much power is behind the game engine, people made that stuff. Why are you "being so stupid" as to assume that I ever said it has bad art direction (it doesn't) or that I haven't played it (I have)Seriously everything you said in that post is useless and does't even address what I'd said in relation to you, own up or shut up.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

I have a high post count. lool.

 

[Fenrir]

But a for everythin else. Why are you just cherry pickin what you think you can ***** about instead of addressin what I said? Heck since when have I said tat Crysis has no art direction? That **** doesn't just make itself, no matter how much power is behind the game engine, people made that stuff. Why are you "being so stupid" as to assume that I ever said it has bad art direction (it doesn't) or that I haven't played it (I have)Seriously everything you said in that post is useless and does't even address what I'd said in relation to you, own up or shut up.

Then what WAS the point of bringing up and rambling on like a broken record over art direction when neither I nor DMC ever mentioned or even implied anything about art direction? Or do you just like to come into threads and pollute it with irrelevant garbage that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed? Why Zenny, why?

 

[XtromaniaK]

Oy vey.

Sorry for thinking you were fenrir, it was easy to mistake you for him considering that the both of you are acting like pre madona drama queens, and chocking up the thread with your antognism.

When had I acted like a drama queen before you insulted me completely off-base? When had I slighted anyone in the least before you went off and lectured me on something I hadn't even said? MY antagonism?

The "worst" I had said up that that point was, and I quote:

"Actually, DMC made the Crysis comparison first. And quite honestly, Resistance 2 will never look as good as Crysis, on account that the GPU isn't as good as the 360's GPU, which isn't as good as high-end GPUs out on this day and date."

Which is a valid point. Because of BOTH of the consoles' inability to match up with high-end PCs, neither of them will surpass the best on the PC. Anything else is just bandying words and bullcrap.

But, even though I hadn't said anything worthy of being insulted, or flamed, or ridiculed I got two snide and childish posts from you telling me to leave:

"You might as well stop now though, because you're just going to ***** and complain and nothing will go anywhere. So just leave, instead of stroking your ego.

and

"I seriously hope that he realizes the irony of the situation what with him cauthioning people against bitting to Dacmans stupid antogonistic crap, and decides it's better not to reply. I mean jebus, save me. "

The fact that you would even dare talk about MY antagonization reaches a point of stupidity that I hoped no one would ever achieve. Yeah, it's all nice and well up there on your moral high horse, but the reality is that you were the troll, you were the one flaming-baiting people for no particular reason other to exude an aura of superiority to them. Something you don't have.

It's not what you say it's how you say it, as for the on topic stuff. Who was the person that started calling people dumb? Not me. Who was the person who came in here flaming something, and then another person who started flaming someone like a child? Not me. The fact that one of you even rants off "EDIT: I've calmed down now" is pretty stupid. This is the internet.

Then learn to address what people say without reaming them for it. Actually, you did come in here flaming someone: Me. Where the hell did I say anything wrong-headedly until you came in, guns-ablazing, trying to defamate me. I'm tired of your lying, two-faced crap. It's not cute anymore, Zenien. I really hope one of these days you get the banhammer as well so you can realize that, "Oh ****! I must have been the troll afterall!"

 

[WhatsHisFace]

It seems to me like Zenien is the one who's causing trouble, trying to turn everyone on each other.

 

[XtromaniaK]

It seems to me like Zenien is the one who's causing trouble, trying to turn everyone on each other.

She is always near the trouble, but just as often manages to slither her way out of it. I think the only reason for why she hasn't reported my post is because she would be banned as well for trolling.

 

[Zenien]

DUDE

Extro started that with saying that it would be impossible for Resistance 2 to look as good as Crysis, and used the PS3 GPU, 360 GPU, and then the recommended GPU of Crysis as a measuring point. To which I brought up art direction plyin a key role in visuals.

Actually read, please.

EDIT: Let's test that theory, at worxst it will get you two to stop acting like drama queens.

 

[XtromaniaK]

DUDE

Extro started that with saying that it would be impossible for Resistance 2 to look as good as Crysis, and used the PS3 GPU, 360 GPU, and then the recommended GPU of Crysis as a measuring point. To which I brought up art direction plyin a key role in visuals.

Actually read, please.

He did read. You were the first to attack anyone in your posts. Maybe not before Fenrir, I wasn't paying attention. I made a perfectly valid observation of the consoles' inferiority to the high-end components available for PCs, and you went off and ridiculed and flame-baited me over it.

The fact of the matter is that you were clearly in the wrong from the get-go, I merely joined you there after my rant.

EDIT: You're only proving my point with the name-calling. You refuse to admit that you had done something wrong, and try to ricochet the blame in someone else's direction. Nice editing your post, by the way. If Matt shows up, let him know for future reference that she did call us the "three stooges", once again flame-baiting us before she edited it out to look better.

 

[Zenien]

Omg grow up.

 

[XtromaniaK]

Once more, flame-baiting. You really do have no idea how bad this is making you look, do you?