The Amazing Spider-Man Rhys Ifans Cast as The Lizard

[GoldGoblin]

He should be like the Wolf Man.

 

[Oscorp]

Yeah, but if it's all done in a cartoonish and cheesy kind of way (which it was) it holds no weight. From the New York Defenders who keeps coming to Spider-Man's aide against his two A-List villains, both Green Goblin and Doc Ock. I mean, shouldn't the New Yorkers in Spider-Man join the damn AVENGERS or something.

**** your pants scary is what THE LIZARD should be. Intensity can be handled greatly in PG-13 films, take Lord of the Rings, The Dark Knight or even Jurassic Park. I'm tired of the BS excuses people give when it comes to Spider-Man not having dramatic, serious and intense moments. It's one of the reasons why we're getting a reboot, because the director couldn't control his cheese, when there should have been serious, intense and dark moments in Spider-Man 3--we got Kraft Singles every single time.

If we do nothing, let's learn from SM3's mistakes.

Totally agree!

 

[Ken-Kaniff]

**** your pants scary is what THE LIZARD should be. Intensity can be handled greatly in PG-13 films, take Lord of the Rings, The Dark Knight or even Jurassic Park. I'm tired of the BS excuses people give when it comes to Spider-Man not having dramatic, serious and intense moments. It's one of the reasons why we're getting a reboot, because the director couldn't control his cheese, when there should have been serious, intense and dark moments in Spider-Man 3--we got Kraft Singles every single time.

If we do nothing, let's learn from SM3's mistakes.

You nailed it perfectly!

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

yeah...definitely agree with what KAW said...i cant stand the excuses to cornyness and toning it down for pg-13

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, but if it's all done in a cartoonish and cheesy kind of way (which it was) it holds no weight. From the New York Defenders who keeps coming to Spider-Man's aide against his two A-List villains, both Green Goblin and Doc Ock. I mean, shouldn't the New Yorkers in Spider-Man join the damn AVENGERS or something.

**** your pants scary is what THE LIZARD should be. Intensity can be handled greatly in PG-13 films, take Lord of the Rings, The Dark Knight or even Jurassic Park. I'm tired of the BS excuses people give when it comes to Spider-Man not having dramatic, serious and intense moments. It's one of the reasons why we're getting a reboot, because the director couldn't control his cheese, when there should have been serious, intense and dark moments in Spider-Man 3--we got Kraft Singles every single time.

If we do nothing, let's learn from SM3's mistakes.

SM2's climax was more about Peter helping Ock find his way back, but the idea still wasn't childish. What really mattered in terms of emotion was serious. That was the focus. The sun thing is there merely for the tension, but wasn't as important as the character thing. As for SM1, well I liked it. I didn't mind the New Yorkers saving Spidey's ass because 9/11 just happened. But we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

But who knows? Maybe the Lizard could be great as you described. Or maybe it wouldn't. I guess I'd have to wait and see. Because yeah, it is his nature, and he is this animal. Although I do want him to be intelligent and aware, yet scary when he needs to be. Imagine Spider-Man in the sewers the Lizard lurking around. He doesn't even have to be on screen. Just the atmosphere could do it.

 

[Wolverine1988]

Definetley taking a gamble by using this villain...It could easily come across very stupid to the masses, i can already here people saying "Spider-Man is fighting Dinosaurs?" or something stupid people will say.

 

[Marvel Spider]

Definetley taking a gamble by using this villain...It could easily come across very stupid to the masses, i can already here people saying "Spider-Man is fighting Dinosaurs?" or something stupid people will say.

This reminds me of when the first trailer for "The Incredible Hulk" came out. Someone actually asked me why the Hulk was fighting a zombie.

 

[©KAW]

SM2's climax was more about Peter helping Ock find his way back, but the idea still wasn't childish. What really mattered in terms of emotion was serious. That was the focus. The sun thing is there merely for the tension, but wasn't as important as the character thing. As for SM1, well I liked it. I didn't mind the New Yorkers saving Spidey's ass because 9/11 just happened. But we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

Finding his way back from the Darkside of the Tentacles, eh? The guy screamed like a wuss on wheels when he saw what his beloved tentacles had done to the doctors and nurses. Great, let's blame 9/11 for Spidey's A-List villain having fruits and vegetables thrown at him (without retaliating) coupled with cheesy dialogue. We really do need a full on villain, when said character becomes a super-powered being by whatever means.

But who knows? Maybe the Lizard could be great as you described. Or maybe it wouldn't. I guess I'd have to wait and see. Because yeah, it is his nature, and he is this animal. Although I do want him to be intelligent and aware, yet scary when he needs to be. Imagine Spider-Man in the sewers the Lizard lurking around. He doesn't even have to be on screen. Just the atmosphere could do it.

You would love it, trust me. If The lizard could be put on the same level as the creatures from the original ALIEN and PREDATOR movies. You would love it. And if he's not, then you won't even be scarred nor will The Lizard seem threatening, when he's lurking somewhere unseen.

I don't know about you, but I'm tired of splashing around in shallow waters. Sure, it's nice to get your feet wet. But I wanna go deep this time and let my lungs explode inside my gut.

 

[©KAW]

Definetley taking a gamble by using this villain...It could easily come across very stupid to the masses, i can already here people saying "Spider-Man is fighting Dinosaurs?" or something stupid people will say.

It's all about execution. A liquid metal man could come off looking very stupid too, if you don't know what you're doing. Same could be said with the alien in Predator, who was a man in a suit by the way. Just look what happens when you direct a villain with passion, creativity, seriousness and intensity...and no CHEESE.

You ACE the damn thing!

 

[The Joker]

Yeah, but if it's all done in a cartoonish and cheesy kind of way (which it was) it holds no weight. From the New York Defenders who keeps coming to Spider-Man's aide against his two A-List villains, both Green Goblin and Doc Ock. I mean, shouldn't the New Yorkers in Spider-Man join the damn AVENGERS or something.

Hey, at least Doc Ock dished out some serious pwnage on those do gooding citizens. That's one of my favorite scenes where he just smiles at them and says "Very well", and smashes them all aside.

 

[TheSlag]

Yeah, but if it's all done in a cartoonish and cheesy kind of way (which it was) it holds no weight. From the New York Defenders who keeps coming to Spider-Man's aide against his two A-List villains, both Green Goblin and Doc Ock. I mean, shouldn't the New Yorkers in Spider-Man join the damn AVENGERS or something.

**** your pants scary is what THE LIZARD should be. Intensity can be handled greatly in PG-13 films, take Lord of the Rings, The Dark Knight or even Jurassic Park. I'm tired of the BS excuses people give when it comes to Spider-Man not having dramatic, serious and intense moments. It's one of the reasons why we're getting a reboot, because the director couldn't control his cheese, when there should have been serious, intense and dark moments in Spider-Man 3--we got Kraft Singles every single time.

If we do nothing, let's learn from SM3's mistakes.

LMFAO!!!!t: Kraft Singles every time... GREATNESS!!!

and totally agree with this post. well said.

 

[Wolverine1988]

It's all about execution. A liquid metal man could come off looking very stupid too, if you don't know what you're doing. Same could be said with the alien in Predator, who was a man in a suit by the way. Just look what happens when you direct a villain with passion, creativity, seriousness and intensity...and no CHEESE.

You ACE the damn thing!

Predator is movie about aliens/space creature whatever you wanna call it, so of course if the movie is about that you cant go into seeing it and go " many that looks corny".Cuse the movie is about aliens and what not.

Lizard is complicated because your throwing it into a movie about a comic book character with super power, granted Spider-Man is not the most realistice comic book character and thats not what i was thinking, I am just saying how many comic book movies have you seen were the main villain is creature of some sort?To be more specific a huge Lizard?

I can't think of any.

 

[©KAW]

Hey, at least Doc Ock dished out some serious pwnage on those do gooding citizens. That's one of my favorite scenes where he just smiles at them and says "Very well", and smashes them all aside.

True, but I sure as hell wouldn't be standing in front of Doc Ock talking sh::t. Especially after seeing him throw MoFos from the train. Yet there they are, again, ready to do battle with a guy who tosses cars around like Tonka toys. Those New Yorkers need some fancy suits and guidance from Professor X.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Finding his way back from the Darkside of the Tentacles, eh? The guy screamed like a wuss on wheels when he saw what his beloved tentacles had done to the doctors and nurses. Great, let's blame 9/11 for Spidey's A-List villain having fruits and vegetables thrown at him (without retaliating) coupled with cheesy dialogue. We really do need a full on villain, when said character becomes a super-powered being by whatever means.

You would love it, trust me. If The lizard could be put on the same level as the creatures from the original ALIEN and PREDATOR movies. You would love it. And if he's not, then you won't even be scarred nor will The Lizard seem threatening, when he's lurking somewhere unseen.

I don't know about you, but I'm tired of splashing around in shallow waters. Sure, it's nice to get your feet wet. But I wanna go deep this time and let my lungs explode inside my gut.

They tentacles merely influenced him. He chose to do what he did. He chose to be manipulated when he could have resisted them like at the end. He let them control him and manipulate them in that one scene. They didn't control him with everything he did. He was a nefarious guy in the meantime as Ock. Once again, the theme of choice coming into play. Ock could have chosen to resist, but was overcome by rage, guilt and anger by everything that happened. So he was easily manipulated by them.

 

[©KAW]

They tentacles merely influenced him. He chose to do what he did. He chose to be manipulated when he could have resisted them like at the end. He let them control him and manipulate them in that one scene. They didn't control him with everything he did. He was a nefarious guy in the meantime as Ock. Once again, the theme of choice coming into play. Ock could have chosen to resist, but was overcome by rage, guilt and anger by everything that happened. So he was easily manipulated by them.

That's just it, he WAS manipulated by them. Not to mention the tentacles killed those doctors and nurses not Doctor Octopus. How about a movie where Doc Ock is the one in complete control over his tentacles at all time and not influenced by them, and he himself does the actual killing--that would make for a much better movie and villain. It was a watered down version of Doc Ock from the comics (he did look cool though).

 

[Ajendo]

Definetley taking a gamble by using this villain...It could easily come across very stupid to the masses, i can already here people saying "Spider-Man is fighting Dinosaurs?" or something stupid people will say.

This is unecessary hysteria. Spider-Man isn't fighting a dinosaur, he's fighting a friend who out of trying to do somrthing good turned into a monster. That being said, if the notion is ridiculous, I fail to see how it's any more ridiculous than the villains that have appeared in the previous films.

 

[Ajendo]

That's just it, he WAS manipulated by them. Not to mention the tentacles killed those doctors and nurses not Doctor Octopus. How about a movie where Doc Ock is the one in complete control over his tentacles at all time and not influenced by them, and he himself does the actual killing--that would make for a much better movie and villain. It was a watered down version of Doc Ock from the comics (he did look cool though).

Exactly! All this can be summed up in one word, bastardization.

 

[chaseter]

How about a movie where Ock has magnetic powers, Kraven is a talk show host, and where Green Goblin is a giant goblin monster?

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Lol, That would be terrible. I really do not like USM's version of the Villians or USm as a whole for that matter.

 

[GhostPoet]

crazy idea...why not use the comic orgin for the character?

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Really crazy idea, skip the origin.

 

[Doctor Jones]

That's just it, he WAS manipulated by them. Not to mention the tentacles killed those doctors and nurses not Doctor Octopus. How about a movie where Doc Ock is the one in complete control over his tentacles at all time and not influenced by them, and he himself does the actual killing--that would make for a much better movie and villain. It was a watered down version of Doc Ock from the comics (he did look cool though).

And yet it provided a much deeper and thematic story for the character himself instead of just him doing **** with the tentacles. It's willpower vs machine. It was much more engaging character wise instead of the psychotic double personality that Osborne was.

He was manipulated, but he ultimately CHOSE himself what he thought needed to be done.

I mean he took Aunt May hostage, dropping her and tricking Spider-Man that he would give her to him, throwing a car in the window, pushed Peter against the wall resulting in rubble toppling on him, threatening to "peal the flesh off her bones" if he did not find Spider-Man, made a deal with Harry to get Spider-man in order to get tritium to blow up half the city, left Spider-Man to stop the train in which he took out the breaks, threw two people out the train. I mean he did bad stuff. This wasn't just the tentacles. He was pretty much doing everything on his own with the tentacles.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Definetley taking a gamble by using this villain...It could easily come across very stupid to the masses, i can already here people saying "Spider-Man is fighting Dinosaurs?" or something stupid people will say.

To avoid that they should clearly show that Connors is Lizard & that it's a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde relationship in the trailers.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Very dissappointed that they're using The Lizard this soon. I was hoping for a villain like Electro in the first movie.

 

[chaseter]

Why do places like this feel the need to post interviews from actors saying that they are excited? That was the most useless interview on the front page that I have read. I bet if you interview all the actors they would say the same thing and then you would have 3 front page stories. Also this just in...water is wet.