The Amazing Spider-Man Rhys Ifans Cast as The Lizard

[Marvel Spider]

Here's my quick impression of what the Lizard might look like based on the images and descriptions available:

Excellent. But he's gonna have yellow eyes, from the reports of people who saw the footage.

By the way, I just have to post the promo video from the musical Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark that features the Lizard, for much the same reason you can't help watching a train wreck.

Look for the Spidey musical version of super-deformed Lizzy around the 3:00 mark...


Oh, the humanity.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I really want to forget that horrible musical ever happened.

 

[Ajendo]

I know fans get behind whatever movie they're hyping is doing before release and for about a year afterwards (example: Dr. Connors is divorced? Cool and realistic!), but this argument is just silly.

A man turning into a lizard monster is believable. Him having torn clothes on is not?

A boy being able to move like a spider from a radioactive bite is realistic, but a torn lab coat crosses some versimilitude line?

IT should be there because it is part of his iconic look. Like Venom needs fangs and a tongue, Doc Ock wears sunglasses, Joker wears a purple suit with green hair and The Kingpin is bald. It's just a definitive part of the character's iconic look. YOu take it away, the character becomes a generic movie villain--in Lizard's case a giant reptilian monster from a B sci-fi movie. Besides, like The Wolfman from last year, the iconic look gives a humanity to the monster of what's been destroyed and makes him more visually interesting to watch.

Silly argument?? Not really. The comics and cartoons can get away with it but in a film where it's taking itself more seriously than the aforementioned medias, as faithful as it would be to the look, the labcoat just isn't terribly important and to say the lizard episode in the MTV series was crap because he wasn't wearing a labcoat is absurd. Doc ock didnt wear his green and yellow outfit, spidey doesn't have armpit webbing, wolverine doesn't wear yellow spandex. I can go on. It's all about context.

 

[the amazing fro]

The yellow on the lizard seems a little bit weird but I'll get used to it.

That clip of Turn of the Dark looks hilarious.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The lab coat can still be a part of it in this so called "realistic" world. The coat would probably be tattered.

 

[Doc Phosphorus]

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I really didn't realize the Spider-Man musical was THAT bad. That's like...the type of Spider-Man musical the Simpsons would go see, starring Troy McClure.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

lol

 

[spidey99]

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I really didn't realize the Spider-Man musical was THAT bad. That's like...the type of Spider-Man musical the Simpsons would go see, starring Troy McClure.

Haha, good one.

 

[DACrowe]

By the way, I just have to post the promo video from the musical Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark that features the Lizard, for much the same reason you can't help watching a train wreck.

Look for the Spidey musical version of super-deformed Lizzy around the 3:00 mark...


Oh, the humanity.

The way they made the Lizard dance was hysterical.

 

[DACrowe]

Silly argument?? Not really. The comics and cartoons can get away with it but in a film where it's taking itself more seriously than the aforementioned medias, as faithful as it would be to the look, the labcoat just isn't terribly important and to say the lizard episode in the MTV series was crap because he wasn't wearing a labcoat is absurd. Doc ock didnt wear his green and yellow outfit, spidey doesn't have armpit webbing, wolverine doesn't wear yellow spandex. I can go on. It's all about context.

No it is a silly argument, because the lab coat if torn properly gives the effect of a cape and makes the character visually dynamic. And to say that torn clothes are the most unrealistic thing about a giant lizard man who battles a boy in colorful tights is very silly. Otherwise he looks like a Syfy Channel reject trying to ape Jurassic Park. Doc Ock also wore trenchcoat in the comics and always wore sunglasses. What you're arguing is more akin to people thinking Joker should not have a purple suit, because it was unrealistic.

And I insulted the MTV version of Lizard just not because he looked boring. But because they turned him into a one-note villain, made Doc Connors evil, took away his family, and made him a totally evil, one-note character and killed him off. Kind of ruined why he is so popular.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Well said!

 

[spider-neil]

three acts; start, middle, climax

act 1 -
first the hand grows back and every thing is peachy
then conners turns into ditko's lizard, human sized complete with lab coat

act 2 -
conners then turns into mcfarlane's 'torment' lizard, larger more vicious,

act 3 -
final transformation where the lizard is a huge walking juggernaut of destruction

 

[Ajendo]

No it is a silly argument, because the lab coat if torn properly gives the effect of a cape and makes the character visually dynamic. And to say that torn clothes are the most unrealistic thing about a giant lizard man who battles a boy in colorful tights is very silly. Otherwise he looks like a Syfy Channel reject trying to ape Jurassic Park. Doc Ock also wore trenchcoat in the comics and always wore sunglasses. What you're arguing is more akin to people thinking Joker should not have a purple suit, because it was unrealistic.

And I insulted the MTV version of Lizard just not because he looked boring. But because they turned him into a one-note villain, made Doc Connors evil, took away his family, and made him a totally evil, one-note character and killed him off. Kind of ruined why he is so popular.

I'm not convinced by your argument at all. Did you just say something about a man sized lizard having tattered clothes to give off a cape-like look?? That is beyond absurd. Like I said it's all about context. Spidey didn't have mechs in raimi's films and yet his mechs are one of the most iconic trinkets in the whole of comicdom but it worked within the context of what the movies were going for. The joker's purple outfit isn't even an isssue, again it's all about a specific context the movies are going for. As for the mtv lizard episode, as you stated you and others didn't like it primarily because of the way connors was characterised. The aesthetics of the lizard's attire just isn't that important. I'm not going to moan and cry at the inclusion of tattered clothing on the lizard but I can understand and appreciate the logic of him not having any clothes at all. Also, you pretty much substantiated my argument by highlighting your problems with the aforementioned lizard episode. If this movie focuses on developing and exploring Connors' character/family then it lends itself far more credibility than having the lizard being some b movie type monster as you said. The movie makers have made a decision to take the lizard's look into a certain direction and as has been mentioned, if Connors' transformation does occur in stages, then yeah, he can wear a damn tuxedo for all I care but when he goes full reptile, within the context of this more serious tone, it'll be a joke to see this raptor-like monster running around playing hide and eat in a freakin lab coat.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

three acts; start, middle, climax

act 1 -
first the hand grows back and every thing is peachy
then conners turns into ditko's lizard, human sized complete with lab coat

act 2 -
conners then turns into mcfarlane's 'torment' lizard, larger more vicious,

act 3 -
final transformation where the lizard is a huge walking juggernaut of destruction

That's what I see happening.

 

[The Lizard]

That's like...the type of Spider-Man musical the Simpsons would go see, starring Troy McClure.

"I hate every ape I see...
From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z!"

 

[Still Wynning]

Here's my quick impression of what the Lizard might look like based on the images and descriptions available:

Kind of looks like a Komodo Dragon.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

That's what I was thinking.

 

[Spectacular23]

Here's my quick impression of what the Lizard might look like based on the images and descriptions available:

i actually don't mind the yellow at all. From the comic-con footage this look fairly accurate. Lizard looks bigger than normal though in this movie. Sort of like the abomdination off of the hulk. Can't wait to see a full lizard reveal later on in the pic. But thumbs up to you Sabella!!! Nice Drawings.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

it'll be a joke to see this raptor-like monster running around playing hide and eat in a freakin lab coat.

I believe the lab coat is for more than just style and originality, he should have a lab coat not just because its always been that way and should still be that way but because it shows that he used to be a man, or that he still is. Its more of a visual representation of his old humanity.

 

[Ajendo]

I believe the lab coat is for more than just style and originality, he should have a lab coat not just because its always been that way and should still be that way but because it shows that he used to be a man, or that he still is. Its more of a visual representation of his old humanity.

He doesn't need a lab coat for that. That's why he has a family and a connection to Peter. Spidey isn't trying to kill the lizard or send him to jail. He's trying to save his friend and keep a family together. Spider-Man even tries to reason with the lizard by trying to talk to the dormen dr.Connors and besides, didn't Ifans say something about the Lizard has some of his likeness?

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I believe the lab coat is for more than just style and originality, he should have a lab coat not just because its always been that way and should still be that way but because it shows that he used to be a man, or that he still is. Its more of a visual representation of his old humanity.

GOod point, my friend.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

I believe the lab coat is for more than just style and originality, he should have a lab coat not just because its always been that way and should still be that way but because it shows that he used to be a man, or that he still is. Its more of a visual representation of his old humanity.

I was thinking about the same thing, in that there's a human part to Curt Connors that should be retained when he's in the Lizard form.
I'm 100% for the lab coat; I'm sure it might sound dumb to say this, but I think the "yellow" part of his jaw (and other places on his body) will take that part, if the coat goes away upon his first transformation. I'm just hoping that he loses his humanity over a progression of time.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

He doesn't need a lab coat for that. That's why he has a family and a connection to Peter. Spidey isn't trying to kill the lizard or send him to jail. He's trying to save his friend and keep a family together. Spider-Man even tries to reason with the lizard by trying to talk to the dormen dr.Connors and besides, didn't Ifans say something about the Lizard has some of his likeness?

The way I see it, if you show a naked lizard to some random person, they just see this big lizard thing, with nothing to give the indication that he was ever a normal man, but if you show that same lizard in tattered up clothing to someone, they instantly assume that it was a man who turned into a lizard creature. If the lizard were to die wearing conners clothes, when they examine the clothing and find his wallet or name tag, with his id they can say "this was a man with a life and family just like you and me."

With that said, I do agree with you on the fact that conners humanity is also shown through the people close to him.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well said once more, Gamma Goliath.

 

[Mary Jane Watson]

I dont know if it already posted...

http://www.digitalspy.ca/movies/new...-lizard-not-true-villain-says-rhys-ifans.html