The Dark Knight Rises Riddle Me This: The Riddler Characterization Thread

[jmc]

I was thinking about something the other day. Perhaps the plot could revolve around Riddler knowing who Batman is from the start, coz really for someone as smart as Riddler it shouldn't be that hard to work out that Batman would need to be a young person with money up his sleeve to do what he does, and how many young billionaires in Gotham are there? So perhaps what could happen is he starts playing a game with Bruce, forcing him into a corner to play a game where the winner determines the fate of Batman, if Bruce wins he gets to keep his vigilante secret, if Riddler wins he reveals the true identity of Batman. Of course as the story progresses Batman continues to one up the Riddler at his own game to the point where Riddler's obsession with winning starts becoming dangerous, he continuously changes the rules, the riddles become more and more complex, and the lives of Gotham citizens come under a greater threat as Riddler goes beyond boundaries even he thought he would never go. At the same time he's got the last fragments of the mob to deal with, the police still after, and a potential complicated relationship with Catwoman/Selina Kyle to make life even more hectic. Food for thought.

 

[Jolly C.]

The fed idea is the only one that fits without being simular to the jokers character, plus its original

 

[Rodrigo90]

I rather the Riddlers character be stuck to the comics. A Private Investigator.

 

[BestGirl]

I was thinking about something the other day. Perhaps the plot could revolve around Riddler knowing who Batman is from the start, coz really for someone as smart as Riddler it shouldn't be that hard to work out that Batman would need to be a young person with money up his sleeve to do what he does, and how many young billionaires in Gotham are there? So perhaps what could happen is he starts playing a game with Bruce, forcing him into a corner to play a game where the winner determines the fate of Batman, if Bruce wins he gets to keep his vigilante secret, if Riddler wins he reveals the true identity of Batman. Of course as the story progresses Batman continues to one up the Riddler at his own game to the point where Riddler's obsession with winning starts becoming dangerous, he continuously changes the rules, the riddles become more and more complex, and the lives of Gotham citizens come under a greater threat as Riddler goes beyond boundaries even he thought he would never go. At the same time he's got the last fragments of the mob to deal with, the police still after, and a potential complicated relationship with Catwoman/Selina Kyle to make life even more hectic. Food for thought.

What would these riddles be? The Riddler places a bomb somewhere and Batman has to defuse it? How would Batman win this contest? Or is the Riddler's idea that it would just continue indefinitely?

 

[GaiusBaltar]

The fed idea is the only one that fits without being similar to the Joker's character, plus its original

... Amen.

 

[Jolly C.]

Fed or Private Investigator...its all different from the Joker and thats the key thing that the film makers will be looking for is an original villian characterization, and this is the only idea I think that stands out the furthest from being the same as the Joker.

 

[Brother Jack]

I rather the Riddlers character be stuck to the comics. A Private Investigator.

That wouldn't be much different from a federal agent, they both would have the same goal/function: apprehending Batman.

 

[Jolly C.]

...and that is what the riddlers purpose should be in the next movie, apprending batman, to me it just seems like the logical choice because batman is on the run right now and the whole city is against him.

 

[Brother Jack]

...and that is what the riddlers purpose should be in the next movie, apprending batman, to me it just seems like the logical choice because batman is on the run right now and the whole city is against him.

Right, and it would work well with the role reversal that Batman has undergone. Riddler is the trusted guy who's really a villain and Batman is the perceived villain who is really a hero (initially anyway, eventually the tables would turn).

 

[Jolly C.]

i think you and i are on the exact same page haha...i mean i dont see anything else working besides this idea. IMO this would fit perfectly with the next movie.

 

[GaiusBaltar]

I see great minds are gathering here. Good to see people liking the Fed angle. Someone should start a poll.

 

[Jolly C.]

Secret Agent Riddler Man poll!

 

[jmc]

What would these riddles be? The Riddler places a bomb somewhere and Batman has to defuse it? How would Batman win this contest? Or is the Riddler's idea that it would just continue indefinitely?

There really wouldn't be a winner, it would continue until the Riddler becomes consumed by it all, eventually his own game becomes his downfall. As for what types of riddles, I imagine they would start off relatively easy and harmless, but could eventually grow to more complicated and difficult scenarios where perhaps explosives and innocent lives are involved, perhaps even one where he needs assistance from like Gordon or maybe even Catwoman to get it done.

 

[Jozef]

maybe I should of put this here the first time, and im sure people had a similar idea


I believe the riddler will be the guy who tried to blackmail lucious for 10 million a year because he knew batman was bruce. this makes sense because the riddler most likely know who batman is and use it to his personal gain, and as a basis for his most important riddle. he works for bruce and found the tumbler blueprint showing us he knows his way around wayne's companys confidential information only bruce and lucious knows. you can tell this character is not meant to go away after the dark knight since he was hanging around on tv shows. yeah this guy probably makes sense as the riddler and since his vendetta starts with bruce he is the perfect person to put batman on a wild goose chase with riddles only bruce will know.

 

[Rodrigo90]

maybe I should of put this here the first time, and im sure people had a similar idea


I believe the riddler will be the guy who tried to blackmail lucious for 10 million a year because he knew batman was bruce. this makes sense because the riddler most likely know who batman is and use it to his personal gain, and as a basis for his most important riddle. he works for bruce and found the tumbler blueprint showing us he knows his way around wayne's companys confidential information only bruce and lucious knows. you can tell this character is not meant to go away after the dark knight since he was hanging around on tv shows. yeah this guy probably makes sense as the riddler and since his vendetta starts with bruce he is the perfect person to put batman on a wild goose chase with riddles only bruce will know.

Too predictable and boring.

 

[Jozef]

Too predictable and boring.

predictable maybe but boring will depend on how its delivered.

 

[Two-Face]

maybe I should of put this here the first time, and im sure people had a similar idea


I believe the riddler will be the guy who tried to blackmail lucious for 10 million a year because he knew batman was bruce. this makes sense because the riddler most likely know who batman is and use it to his personal gain, and as a basis for his most important riddle. he works for bruce and found the tumbler blueprint showing us he knows his way around wayne's companys confidential information only bruce and lucious knows. you can tell this character is not meant to go away after the dark knight since he was hanging around on tv shows. yeah this guy probably makes sense as the riddler and since his vendetta starts with bruce he is the perfect person to put batman on a wild goose chase with riddles only bruce will know.

You're saying Reese is Riddler?

 

[skiddyboy]

Have you been sniffing glue???

 

[ronny]

You're saying Reese is Riddler?

Why is there so much hostility towards this idea?

 

[Two-Face]

Why is there so much hostility towards this idea?

Isn't the Riddler little fat? Come on Coleman Reese/The riddler seriously? Later in the movie we see him saying "Actually my name is Edward Nashton"

 

[Jozef]

Edward Nigma is the riddler in the comics, but in these more serious movies having someone's first initial and last name forming e.nigma would be goofy therefore edward nigma would be more reasonable as a false alias.

 

[Jozef]

Isn't the Riddler little fat? Come on Coleman Reese/The riddler seriously? Later in the movie we see him saying "Actually my name is Edward Nashton"

the riddler doesnt have to be physically imposing, and wasnt the riddler in hush kinda short?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Reese as Riddler is pretty dumb IMO.

Hey he's names Mr Reese-mister reese-mysteries! Geddit! Geddit! Even more ridiculous than E. Nygma.

 

[Jozef]

Reese as Riddler is pretty dumb IMO.

Hey he's names Mr Reese-mister reese-mysteries! Geddit! Geddit! Even more ridiculous than E. Nygma.

regardless I dont think the character can simply dissapear especially with him knowing who batman is so even if he wouldnt be the riddler, I think his character will somehow relate to the riddler.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I don't think he should be completely disregarded. That would be a pretty big plot hole to be fair.

But then saying that, he gave all his proof that Bruce is Batman back to Lucius Fox.