Riots in Missouri - Part 1

[Kelly]

Yeah...I agree.

http://gawker.com/these-are-the-photos-of-darren-wilsons-bruises-1662997813

I'm not seeing how that is all that relevant. One fist to your face that you don't see coming from a young man of significant size and then he is going for your gun and the gun goes off, that to me is the break point. Not sure of the major importance of how much the officer's face is black and blue.

 

[KalMart]

The police should raid their households to get the stuff back.

 

[Apollo]

I get looting liquor stores and electronic stores, but what are they going to do at McDonalds? Break in and make fries?

That's what I was thinking. None of the food would be made. I guess they can steal large sodas and possible a pre made salads with out the chicken.

 

[SuperJediHero]

Yup shots heard on CNN!

 

[Schlosser85]

Brown already got justice. These people don't care anything about Brown.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Most of the big cities should have some kind of protest happening now, right?

I guess, as long as it's peaceful.

 

[antsman41]

So a robber robs a store, then attacks a police officer and gets shot, and that somehow is grounds for riots and looting and burning?

No...

But, the government covering up, lying about, and protecting the police officer's identity/case/all around well being more than any other typical american citizen is illegal and wrong.

 

[KalMart]

That's what I was thinking. None of the food would be made. I guess they can steal large sodas and possible a pre made salads with out the chicken.

Free stuff is free stuff, right?

 

[SuperJediHero]

I guess, as long as it's peaceful.

Even mine is, so I am assuming that the bigger cities has to be too.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

So...did Governor Nixon just declare a state of emergency and have the national guard on call just to piss people off? Because, so far none of those seemed to have been to good use whatsoever.

 

[Thundercrack85]

So a robber robs a store, then attacks a police officer and gets shot, and that somehow is grounds for riots and looting and burning?

Seems like a rather appropriate way to commemorate his death, all things considered.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I'm not seeing how that is all that relevant. One fist to your face that you don't see coming from a young man of significant size and then he is going for your gun and the gun goes off, that to me is the break point. Not sure of the major importance of how much the officer's face is black and blue.

I think it's relevant because it was a point of contention for a long time. It's good to have something cleared up.

If you think I posted it to be a troll, I would be quick to argue it. It was a constant back and forth, saying that the officer was beaten around like a ragdoll. Now we see he wasn't. Take the pictures for what they are, but he doesn't look like someone who may have been beaten near to death to me.

 

[Tempest]

Yeah...I agree.

http://gawker.com/these-are-the-photos-of-darren-wilsons-bruises-1662997813

The question I want to pose is what people feel he should have done. If the evidence truly supports that Brown reached for Wilson's gun, what would you have had him do?

I get looting liquor stores and electronic stores, but what are they going to do at McDonalds? Break in and make fries?

The safe is there. And also because destruction. It's there. Destroy it.

 

[Breogan]

So all those who wanted transparency
Here it is all the evidence and witness testimony.

http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/ferguson-project/evidence.html

You can read all the "witnesses" who after feeding one story to the media changed their story once in front of a jury.
And all the witnesses the media never heard because the black witnesses were afraid of retaliation because their story corroborated the cops.
You can read the forensics, evidence, everything they looked at, etc...

You can actually read what what the media ignored.

Or go back to watching Ferguson burn which is exactly the spectacle the media crated for YOU!

 

[Apollo]

Free stuff is free stuff, right?

There is also all those McDonalds Happy meal toys to loot...

 

[Kelly]

I think it's relevant because it was a point of contention for a long time. It's good to have something cleared up.

I think there are/were and still are far more important things to be cleared up in all of this. But, I see your point..

 

[Thundercrack85]

So...did Governor Nixon just declare a state of emergency and have the national guard on call just to piss people off? Because, so far none of those seemed to have been to good use whatsoever.

The national guard would only move in if police feel they can no longer contain the situation.

 

[antsman41]

If shooting was the only/best option, at least stand up to your decision and not let the officer mistreat the situation afterwards, delete his entire digital [online] history, and basically hide his identity and self away for weeks on end.

 

[Kelly]

So all those who wanted transparency
Here it is all the evidence and witness testimony.

http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/ferguson-project/evidence.html

It's going to be awhile...their system is crashing, I would assume because of the amount of traffic that their system just wasn't ready for...

 

[Howlett]

you cant use logic on people who have already made up their minds that everyone involved are "criminals"

Just like the title of this thread is GROSSLY misleading.

There are no riots, there are police attacking protesters who are FED UP with being shot and killed for sport.

but most of you here, like people everywhere have the Mystic Veil of Privilege that pretty much stops you from seeing that.

This is just flat out false.

I just spent an hour watching at least 6 buildings get burnt down and I'm not sure how many other businesses get windows broken out and looted.

But you go ahead and keep your "they're all just peaceful protesters" myth going strong.

There are peaceful protesters, but there are also lots of rioters and looters too. I just watched it live, so if you'd like to try to spin that somehow, good luck.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

The national guard would only move in if police feel they can no longer contain the situation.

Really? Well...then I think that should have happened like two hours ago. The situation seems to have really gotten out of hand, and they seem to have lost control of the situation. Things really look horrible now.

 

[Kelly]

If shooting was the only/best option, at least stand up to your decision and not let the officer mistreat the situation afterwards, delete his entire digital [online] history, and basically hide his identity and self away for weeks on end.

He went before the Grand Jury, just because the media couldn't get to him means nothing. There is no law that says he has to speak to the media. The problem that I SEE with him going into hiding are those that went free after committing a crime because he did not show up to the initial trial and therefore the charges are dropped...THAT is the problem with his disappearance.

 

[Kelly]

Really? Well...then I think that should have happened like two hours ago. The situation seems to have really gotten out of hand, and they seem to have lost control of the situation. Things really look horrible now.

Ya can't blame the Ferguson police, they are not in charge.

Looks to me like the police for a time were more involved in keeping the firefighters safe, which is procedure, and they are now starting to move forward to find out where the gunfire is coming from...

 

[Sun_Down]

I'm not seeing how that is all that relevant. One fist to your face that you don't see coming from a young man of significant size and then he is going for your gun and the gun goes off, that to me is the break point. Not sure of the major importance of how much the officer's face is black and blue.

Come on, of course it's relevant. It undermines the idea that he was in some life-threatening altercation. There is certainly enough discrepancy in the eyewitness accounts. This just casts further doubt.

This was the type of evidence that turned the Zimmerman trial. The wounds on the back of his head (and the way his lawyer argued them/the way the prosecutor bungled them) basically ensured that he walked.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The truth is, Wilson had time and probably evidence to get his story straight. If it was a normal citizen, he wouldn't have been given those privileges.