Riots in Missouri - Part 1

[bullets]

You know I have a feeling that the people want to become police will DROP very significantly after this... THANKLESS JOB!

This situation is a mess , but I don't think it change anyone's mind about joining the police force.

 

[Ilikecomics123]

completely agree with Bill O'Reily's talking points memo at the start of his program, episode that aired August 20th 2014. Not sure if I'm allowed to link it here, so just google it and see.

 

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CNN followed the Highway Captain Ron Johnson in charge of Ferguson around as he met locals.

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The young black guys he talked to on the street didn't exactly may unreasonable demands.

Police actually going out in the community to talk to people instead of people only seeing cops arrest people is a good idea to improve relations. Right now neither side trusts one another and that isn't good for the community.

If police engaged the local community, listened to peoples grievances and took that into account when doing their job then there wouldn't be this distrust between the police and the community they operate in.

 

[Kelly]

CNN followed the Highway Captain Ron Johnson in charge of Ferguson around as he met locals.

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The young black guys he talked to on the street didn't exactly may unreasonable demands.

Police actually going out in the community to talk to people instead of people only seeing cops arrest people is a good idea to improve relations. Right now neither side trusts one another and that isn't good for the community.

If police engaged the local community, listened to peoples grievances and took that into account when doing their job then there wouldn't be this distrust between the police and the community they operate in.

Houston cops are trying to do just that...they stop at the parks and shoot hoops with the kids there if they see them playing on the courts, they will simply stop and play and talk with kids as they are out in the street playing football. IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE to these kiddos...just simple little things like that. They found one of the police officers that picked up a game of football with some kids later on in the day of his shift and interviewed him. He was looking at the reporter like she was crazy....he was like. "I just threw a few passes to the kids, it wasn't a big thing". The media is so weird sometimes, but it does make a difference to those kids.

I see where they are coming from with the police and how they engage with the public. But, that is a two way street....you have some kids out there that you even look at them wrong and they are in your face. If I speak to a student, that doesn't know me personally but knows I'm a teacher, and I ask them to hurry to class so they won't be tardy as we clear the halls for school....I don't necessarily expect them to take off running to class, or "yes, ma'am, I get right there", etc....but I also don't need for them to start yelling about how I always pick on them, and everyone else isn't getting in trouble, etc...etc. And I look around the hall, and we are the only people in it????? and we get that type of thing from the kiddos all the time. But many times teenagers will take things to a different level simply by their reaction to simple directives, rather than respect the authority. I can't tell you how many times one of our police officers at the school has had to hand cuff a kid, simply because the officer asked to see the kids ID (he wasn't where he was supposed to be and the kid knew that...) instead of just showing the officer his ID, he starts yelling at the officer...."you can't do anything to me", "you are just a school officer (which ours aren't, ours are actually police officers), "you can't touch me"...and then went to push the cop and the kid ended up face down on the floor handcuffed. WHAT THE HECK... so YES, IN BOTH CASES.... "not all teenagers are juvenile delinquents", and "not all officers are baton wielding jerks".

 

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Houston cops are trying to do just that...they stop at the parks and shoot hoops with the kids there if they see them playing on the courts, they will simply stop and play and talk with kids as they are out in the street playing football. IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE to these kiddos...just simple little things like that. They found one of the police officers that picked up a game of football with some kids later on in the day of his shift and interviewed him. He was looking at the reporter like she was crazy....he was like. "I just threw a few passes to the kids, it wasn't a big thing". The media is so weird sometimes, but it does make a difference to those kids.

I see where they are coming from with the police and how they engage with the public. But, that is a two way street....you have some kids out there that you even look at them wrong and they are in your face. If I speak to a student, that doesn't know me personally but knows I'm a teacher, and I ask them to hurry to class so they won't be tardy as we clear the halls for school....I don't necessarily expect them to take off running to class, or "yes, ma'am, I get right there", etc....but I also don't need for them to start yelling about how I always pick on them, and everyone else isn't getting in trouble, etc...etc. And I look around the hall, and we are the only people in it????? and we get that type of thing from the kiddos all the time. But many times teenagers will take things to a different level simply by their reaction to simple directives, rather than respect the authority. I can't tell you how many times one of our police officers at the school has had to hand cuff a kid, simply because the officer asked to see the kids ID (he wasn't where he was supposed to be and the kid knew that...) instead of just showing the officer his ID, he starts yelling at the officer...."you can't do anything to me", "you are just a school officer (which ours aren't, ours are actually police officers), "you can't touch me"...and then went to push the cop and the kid ended up face down on the floor handcuffed. WHAT THE HECK... so YES, IN BOTH CASES.... "not all teenagers are juvenile delinquents", and "not all officers are baton wielding jerks".

People are far more likely to talk to the local police officers and listen to them if they know them and speak to them from time to time. I know a big problem young black males feel with the 'stop and search' tactic over here is the lack of reasoning given for being stopped and searched which is what leaves them to feel victimized by the police. Police officers should give a reason why they are stopping and searching someone. The good officers which is by in large majority usually do but you get a few bad eggs that don't unfortunately.

Some people have a bad attitude and can't handle authority but ultimately the police are held up to a higher standard. Police should be professional and shouldn't be lowering themselves down to the level of some of the worst people they engage with.

If you see the British cop shows the police in them are often very polite to the suspects. Even the ones that do serious crimes they still remain professional and don't sink down to shouting rude insults or threats. I don't know if it is because the camera is on them or those officers where chosen to be followed for the TV shows because they happen to be well behaved but they do seem very reasonable and professional in their job.

On a different note how come you have police in your school and students carry ID as we don't have that in schools over here?

Is crime a big deal in American schools?

 

[The Shape]

completely agree with Bill O'Reily's talking points memo at the start of his program, episode that aired August 20th 2014. Not sure if I'm allowed to link it here, so just google it and see.

I rarely side with anything on Fox News, but yes, I also completely agree with what O'Reily said last night in his talking points memo. Every word.

 

[Feenix]

People are far more likely to talk to the local police officers and listen to them if they know them and speak to them from time to time. I know a big problem young black males feel with the 'stop and search' tactic over here is the lack of reasoning given for being stopped and searched which is what leaves them to feel victimized by the police. Police officers should give a reason why they are stopping and searching someone. The good officers which is by in large majority usually do but you get a few bad eggs that don't unfortunately.

Some people have a bad attitude and can't handle authority but ultimately the police are held up to a higher standard. Police should be professional and shouldn't be lowering themselves down to the level of some of the worst people they engage with.

If you see the British cop shows the police in them are often very polite to the suspects. Even the ones that do serious crimes they still remain professional and don't sink down to shouting rude insults or threats. I don't know if it is because the camera is on them or those officers where chosen to be followed for the TV shows because they happen to be well behaved but they do seem very reasonable and professional in their job.

On a different note how come you have police in your school and students carry ID as we don't have that in schools over here?

Is crime a big deal in American schools?

Given the ridiculous justice system in the States and how widespread the attitude of the "bad kid" is, I would say yes. The media sensationalizes stories about "killer" kids and bullies, leading people to think that the younger generation is full of delinquents (which isn't true). Add to that the number of school shootings in recent years, and you've got a country wide "epidemic" of bad kids.

 

[summerteeth]

Great....now we have a counter protestor supporting the cop on the streets of Ferguson. Cops had to whisk her away for her safety. What was she thinking?

Anyway, storm is moving in so hopefully that will calm things down.

Trust in her fellow man that she could use a natural born right of free speech. That woman shouting at her saying NO JUSTICE for Officer Wilson kind of sums up the protesters for me. Everyone deserves justice no matter what side that falls on whether he be guilty or innocent and it is innocent until proven guilty in this country. Absolutely disgusting. They aren't interested in the truth and they aren't interested in justice. They want to blame it on racism.

 

[X Knight]

so, I'm hearing that Officer Wilson suffered serious facial injuries, including a fractured eye socket, during the confrontation with Brown.

if that is indeed true, and they can prove it with medical records and/or photos, then that would lend credence to Wilson's side of the story ( that there was some kind of attack/struggle ).

 

[Thundercrack85]

Wow, Al Sharpton has really lost weight.

 

[The Shape]

Wow, Al Sharpton has really lost weight.

And his mind.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Are you kidding? He's in the spotlight, exactly where he wants to be.

 

[X Knight]

Are you kidding? He's in the spotlight, exactly where he wants to be.

of course.

if there wasn't such media attention, do you think he'd show up there?

 

[Thundercrack85]

He's good at what he does. You gotta give him that.

 

[X Knight]

He's good at what he does. You gotta give him that.

yeah....except it's not exactly a good thing......lol.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He's good at what he does. You gotta give him that.

He is?

 

[Thundercrack85]

I think he's great at worming his way into **** like this and exploiting it.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Another police shooting in Dallas....however the guy killed was a white guy and a registered sex offender.

 

[X Knight]

I think he's great at worming his way into **** like this and exploiting it.

yep.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

I think the rally was premature along with even the protesting itself. Nobody cared about BOTH sides of story.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Maybe I've never dug into how it all works out, but everyone seems to hate Sharptop and Jesse Jackson. Jackson, I get, with all the ****ed up things he's said over the years.

But, Sharpton seems to do more good than bad to me. Helping bring attention to things like the Eric Garner case, to draw more attention to it. I've seen enough cases that deserve attention, simply go unnoticed like it never happened. But, I can admit that I'm probably looking at in a rather naive way.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I think the rally was premature along with even the protesting itself. Nobody cared about BOTH sides of story.

But, one side never got conveyed. I think that was something that didn't help. If there's no effort made, how can people be expected to believe it when there's nothing to listen to? It didn't inspire confidence in the least.

 

[Evelisse]

oh boy this was something else

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[Kelly]

People are far more likely to talk to the local police officers and listen to them if they know them and speak to them from time to time. I know a big problem young black males feel with the 'stop and search' tactic over here is the lack of reasoning given for being stopped and searched which is what leaves them to feel victimized by the police. Police officers should give a reason why they are stopping and searching someone. The good officers which is by in large majority usually do but you get a few bad eggs that don't unfortunately.

Some people have a bad attitude and can't handle authority but ultimately the police are held up to a higher standard. Police should be professional and shouldn't be lowering themselves down to the level of some of the worst people they engage with.

If you see the British cop shows the police in them are often very polite to the suspects. Even the ones that do serious crimes they still remain professional and don't sink down to shouting rude insults or threats. I don't know if it is because the camera is on them or those officers where chosen to be followed for the TV shows because they happen to be well behaved but they do seem very reasonable and professional in their job.

On a different note how come you have police in your school and students carry ID as we don't have that in schools over here?

Is crime a big deal in American schools?

It's not necessarily because the kids are so bad, it is because of intruders, etc....there are schools in the Houston area that have metal detectors at the door. We don't have that...

As far as ID's, it is a two fold process, 1. So that we know who is supposed to be in our school, and who isn't... 2. We are a blue collar working class community and many of our students will be working in work environments where an ID is not only required, you can be fired on the spot if found without it in the big industries near us.

So, no...we don't necessarily have daily problems in our secondary schools, but more of a precaution. The officers do not get into the day to day problems that teachers have, we take care of those problems. But, when major fights using weapons may occur, or drug busts, then they become involved. As far as our elementary schools, we just have officers that patrol between the schools, we don't have officers in those schools the entire day. But, if there is an intruder, they could be there within a couple of minutes.

For the most part our kids really like our officers and see them as pretty cool guys, but we have that small percentage that if the officer looks at them wrong, they will sound off pretty quickly.

Houston ISD has their own Police officers, most large school districts do, where I am at, a much smaller district we simply contract out with our Sheriff department in this area.

 

[Breogan]

oh boy this was something else

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