Homecoming Robert Downey Jr IS Tony Stark / Iron Man

[JOE]

 

[ImSGirl95]

I would actually would love to see a scene where Tony and May are on a "date", but gets interrupted, because Tony gets a signal that something is wrong at Stark Industries or something. Would be amazing and fun!

 

[guyisnotcool]

A huge influence? um.. What? You're okay with Marvel turning Peter into Tony Stark jr? Look, I'm looking foward to seeing Peter and Tony again in Homecoming as friends because I liked their scene in Civil War, but I don't want him dating Aunt May, helping Spider-Man defeat his villains or having a "huge influence" on Peter over the years. If ANYTHING, I'd rather Cap have a huge influence on Peter because his morals are a lot closer to Peter's than Tony.


I'm really hoping Cap is in Homecoming now because I don't want Stark getting into Peter's head and turning him into a mini-version of himself. Peter in the end needs to become his own man not a subsidiary of Tony Stark.

And for the record, the GA could get on board with ANYTHING as long it's sold the right way, but it's Marvel's job to respect the source material, respect the fans and stay true to the character and their Mythos. Something the general audience couldn't care less about.

Coming in 2028 Spider-Man

 

[Dm2048]

I honestly don't think Tony and May are going to date because she knows he's Iron Man.
That means that he lives a crazy life and that everyone he cares about are in danger because of that, like what happened in Iron Man 3 when his house blew up. So I don't think she will put her nephew's life in danger, she doesn't know Peter is Spider-Man.

If they can make it work then I don't think I will care that much as long as they make it work and not force it or something.

 

[harryoscop]

I never brought up dating May, so not sure where you pulled that from.

Break down the great power speech and think of how it relates to Tony, because it does. In the first Iron Man movie he does a complete 180 once he realizes what his weapons are doing. With his suit that he built (great power) he learns that he's able to help people in a serious way. He didn't have to fly back to where he was tortured and save all those people, but he felt it was his responsibility to. That's not someone you'd want influencing Peter? Cause I'm fine with him taking on the "mentor" role. I think they could have a ton of great "heart to heart" moments.

To be completely honest, the "With Great Power" should apply to Peter and the unique circumstances that lead to him becoming Spider-Man alone. THAT'S why I have problems with Stark having an influence on Peter because Uncle Ben is the one who should have a huge influence on Peter, that night, he was the one willing to do the right thing, he did what Peter should have done. He tried to stop the robber (although some versions may vary on how he did it, all of 'em even movie versions go back to him trying to stop him in some form) and/or Peter should be 'influenced' by his own to never let what happened to Uncle Ben happen to anyone else because of him not doing anything to help. Having Stark apply his story to Peter's doesn't work for me, sorry. But that's obviously the route they're going. From the looks of things, they're going to heavily inject Iron Man into Peter's character regardless of the source material because he's the MCU's big time boy.

Peter isn't going to become a "mini Stark". Peter is and always was a humble guy in the comics, they're not going to turn him into an arrogant genius playboy. These concerns are actually funny lol. Those 5 minutes of Peter Parker were fantastic and embodied everything that is Peter Parker. Everyone just needs to chill, they're not going to compromise his character for laughs.

LOL, just because he's humble doesn't mean he's a pushover post-powers. And especially not in the suit (which I myself wasn't a fan of Spidey humbling himself in front of the Avengers) But what do you think "Stark having a heavy influence) is ging to lead to Peter becoming? Haha, for all we know, "All-New Different' could have been a huge forshadowing of what Marvel plans to do Peter in this trilogy.

Nah, i'm not okay with this and I still don't like the mentor idea (for now) I love when Spidey is doing his own thing and creating his own gadgets he did that in the comics and it needs to stay that way and if what happened in the sfter-credits scene that he didn't make not okay with RDJ better be in this movie as little as possible and I better not see any kind of influence from the usm cartoon or i'm going to walk away from this with no problem.

That's the great thing about characters like Spider-Man. If one doesn't interest you, there's always going to be another one that will. This version is just one of dozens of different Spider-Mans.

If was ever time i would agree with Harry, is probably this.

I would actually would love to see a scene where Tony and May are on a "date", but gets interrupted, because Tony gets a signal that something is wrong at Stark Industries or something. Would be amazing and fun!

 

[harryoscop]

Lol, if we find out the reason why Aunt May is hot and younger is only set her up as Big time boy's Stark's love interest.

 

[PeterBenParker]

To be completely honest, the "With Great Power" should apply to Peter and the unique circumstances that lead to him becoming Spider-Man alone. THAT'S why I have problems with Stark having an influence on Peter because Uncle Ben is the one who should have a huge influence on Peter, that night, he was the one willing to do the right thing, he did what Peter should have done. He tried to stop the robber (although some versions may vary on how he did it, all of 'em even movie versions go back to him trying to stop him in some form) and/or Peter should be 'influenced' by his own to never let what happened to Uncle Ben happen to anyone else because of him not doing anything to help. Having Stark apply his story to Peter's doesn't work for me, sorry. But that's obviously the route they're going. From the looks of things, they're going to heavily inject Iron Man into Peter's character regardless of the source material because he's the MCU's big time boy.

Not just all of that up: by the way) but it's beyond unnecessary. Peter should be shaped as a hero on his own by making his own mistakes, being put in difficult situations, and having a crisis in between his two lives (Peter/Spidey). That's always how it's been at the core regardless of the version (up until USM cartoon) and that's how it should stay.

That's the great thing about characters like Spider-Man. If one doesn't interest you, there's always going to be another one that will. This version is just one of dozens of different Spider-Mans.

Good thing, too. Since I'll just go back to Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, The Amazing Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 for the movies, SSM and TAS for animation, and Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man: Blue and Spidey for the comics if this new series isn't for me.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Lol, if we find out the reason why Aunt May is hot and younger is only set her up as Big time boy's Stark's love interest.

Well isn't it funny how Tomei was cast for Aunt May, especially when you think about RDJ's and Tomei's past in their previous films? Just seems..ironic.

 

[ImSGirl95]

Guys, RDJ was the one who got Shane Black to direct IM3.
And he was the one who fought for Gwyneth to have a role in The Avengers.
And he was the one who insisted the idea of that watch-iron-arm device he uses in CA:CW.

I wouldn't be surprised for one second if it turns out he had an input on Tomei getting the role of May.

 

[harryoscop]

Guys, RDJ was the one who got Shane Black to direct IM3.
And he was the one who fought for Gwyneth to have a role in The Avengers.
And he was the one who insisted the idea of that watch-iron-arm device he uses in CA:CW.

I wouldn't be surprised for one second if it turns out he had an input on Tomei getting the role of May.

Yeah, muscling his way into Spidey's films was an accurate description.

Well isn't it funny how Tomei was cast for Aunt May, especially when you think about RDJ's and Tomei's past in their previous films? Just seems..ironic.

That might he the final nail in the coffin for a lot of Spidey comic fans. I'm going to be beyond pissed off if that turns out to be the case. RDJ making creative decisions for this movie (like Tomei) will be even worse

Not just all of that up: by the way) but it's beyond unnecessary. Peter should be shaped as a hero on his own by making his own mistakes, being put in difficult situations, and having a crisis in between his two lives (Peter/Spidey). That's always how it's been at the core regardless of the version (up until USM cartoon) and that's how it should stay.

Exactly.

Good thing, too. Since I'll just go back to Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, The Amazing Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 for the movies, SSM and TAS for animation, and Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man: Blue and Spidey for the comics if this new series isn't for me.

Yep. Don't forget Dan Slott's awesome "All-New" comics, Miles Morales, possible new PS4 Spidey games and "Spidey" Plenty of ways to get our Spidey fix if we don't like this series. We'll just wait for the next reboot in 2030 or something.

 

[ImSGirl95]

RDJ is not Avi, harry...

 

[harryoscop]

RDJ is not Avi, harry...

If he's somehow making creative decisions with integral Spidey characters like May, asking for 40M dollars to appear... Having a huge influence on Tom's Peter... Have we found our new Avi?

 

[ImSGirl95]

If he's somehow making creative decisions with integral Spidey characters like May, asking for 40M dollars to appear... Having a huge influence on Tom's Peter... Have we found our new Avi?

Ok, now I'm sure you are just kidding/trolling and you don't mean anything you say. lol

 

[MyDudeSpidey]

Me at the last few posts in this thread:

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Boy, that did not take long. Less than a week from the US release and we're back to worrying and arguing again about how things are going to turn out?

Did you not just watch Civil War?

Come on, guys. Marvel has proven over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that they know what they are doing.

 

[Iron_Stark]

lol at this thread.

After reading some of these posts you'd think Tony was going to marry May and impregnate her, adopt Parker and send him off to a boarding school in another country and top it off with Tony making an Iron-Spider suit for himself and taking over the entire movie.

Calm down people, it's a Spider-Man movie, just like Civil War was a Captain America movie and never turned into an Iron Man movie.

Feige and Marvel know what the hell they're doing.

 

[Shikamaru]

Yeah, Tony made basic stuff with scraps. Like the crappy first Iron Man suit, or the gadgets and stuff in IM3. Which is exactly what Peter did too. He made basic webshooters. He made basic goggles. Who knows what else he's done.

All Stark did was upgrade them - because Peter doesn't have the same resources. In the same way Stark couldn't upgrade the Mark 1 suit until he was back in his lab with his resources. What you've stated about Tony being able to do, Peter does also.

Those basic stuff Tony made are still stuff you can't make in real life (yet). You can't make the Mark I suit or turn a Dora the Explorer watch into an arc reactor (yet). The spider signal isn't something you can't make in real life, so why wouldn't Peter be able to make it out of scraps?

Fair point about the webshooters, but I still think it hurts the intelligence aspect a bit. One thing is to emphasize Peter's invention, another thing is to shift that focus to "look at this really advanced thing Iron Man made for me out of one of my old inventions". It still draws the attention from Peter's brain to Tony's brain because it gets you thinking of Tony. It doesn't ruin the character, but it's not ideal.

You just moaned about hypotheticals... And now you too are talking about hypotheticals, man.

I asked if Joe would really be ok with Tony making literally anything for Peter (his words, not mine). It wasn't a question about this version of the character, it was a question about Joe himself. That's not the same as suggesting there's reasonable evidence to imply Tony gave him a better webshooter.

Why would he have come up with it in the context of this universe? All we've seen him do so far is stop car crashes and such.

This is kinda like the neck snapping thing in MoS. The problem is that Marvel put him in a position where he didn't come up with the spider signal. They didn't have to go that route, but they chose to do so.

 

[harryoscop]

lol at this thread.


After reading some of these posts you'd think Tony was going to marry May and impregnate her, adopt Parker and send him off to a boarding school in another country and top it off with Tony making an Iron-Spider suit for himself and taking over the entire movie.


Calm down people, it's a Spider-Man movie, just like Civil War was a Captain America movie and never turned into an Iron Man movie.


Feige and Marvel know what the hell they're doing.

Using Civil War is a terrible example. It was only a Cap in the sense that it was titled Captain America and he had slightly more screen-time, not to mention it was stuffed to the brim with other heroes. Wasn't a solo Cap in any sense of the word. Feige, Watts and Pascal have all said this is SOLO film, it's suppose to be a story for Spider-Man, about Spider-Man with more of an emphasis on his supporting cast and world than any previous films. Stark might be in it cuz' Robert Downey for all we know. Who knows, maybe he took some creative liberities with Feige's original pitch.

 

[Tg11]

But with RDJ showing up as Tony Stark/Iron Man in Homecoming then I wonder if Iron Man will help Spidey fight whoever Spidey's villain is in Spidey's solo film? Because if Iron Man helps Peter in the fight then all Iron Man would essentially have to do is finish off whoever the villain is in one shot I mean the man is wearing an iron suit for crying out loud

 

[harryoscop]

But with RDJ showing up as Tony Stark/Iron Man in Homecoming then I wonder if Iron Man will help Spidey fight whoever Spidey's villain is in Spidey's solo film? Because if Iron Man helps Peter in the fight then all Iron Man would essentially have to do is finish off whoever the villain is in one shot I mean the man is wearing an iron suit for crying out loud

There's the problem right there. They have to find a way for him to not participate in Spidey's fights

 

[JOE]

It's actually laughable... The best part is that he's in it whether people like it or not. I hope he's in the finale action scene as well. Wouldn't that get these boards going?

 

[Flint Marko]

lol at this thread.

After reading some of these posts you'd think Tony was going to marry May and impregnate her, adopt Parker and send him off to a boarding school in another country and top it off with Tony making an Iron-Spider suit for himself and taking over the entire movie.

Calm down people, it's a Spider-Man movie, just like Civil War was a Captain America movie and never turned into an Iron Man movie.

Feige and Marvel know what the hell they're doing.

Thank you.
As one of the biggest Spider-man fans on the planet: he's now in good hands, and I'm excited that RDJ is going to be showing up. At the very least we should be cautiously optimistic.

 

[harryoscop]

It's actually laughable... The best part is that he's in it whether people like it or not. I hope he's in the finale action scene as well. Wouldn't that get these boards going?

Come on, dude.

 

[Shikamaru]

Thank you.
As one of the biggest Spider-man fans on the planet: he's now in good hands, and I'm excited that RDJ is going to be showing up. At the very least we should be cautiously optimistic.

My issue is that I'm less optimistic than I was after seeing Civil War. I'm still cautiously optimistic overall, but I dread the fact that Marvel would make me feel that way. I wanted to immediately love everything about their Spider-Man the same way I immediately loved everything about their other superheroes, and I just don't at the moment.

 

[Flint Marko]

My issue is that I'm less optimistic than I was after seeing Civil War. I'm still cautiously optimistic overall, but I dread the fact that Marvel would make me feel that way. I wanted to immediately love everything about their Spider-Man the same way I immediately loved everything about their other superheroes, and I just don't at the moment.

What left you feeling worried?