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Horror Robert Eggers Nosferatu

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It'll be worth the wait honestly. I have the utmost faith in eggers. I do hope we get some sort of teaser soon but now I doubt it haha.
 
My delightful hyperbole aside, I do think his 2016 Nosferatu script is perhaps his weakest effort when considered against The Witch, The Lighthouse and The Northman. So in that way I am hoping that he took a few more passes at it as he got more movies under his belt.
 
My delightful hyperbole aside, I do think his 2016 Nosferatu script is perhaps his weakest effort when considered against The Witch, The Lighthouse and The Northman. So in that way I am hoping that he took a few more passes at it as he got more movies under his belt.

It's funny, I've been thinking over this for the last day or so and I'm not entirely sure whether I agree with you or not here. :funny:

I could just as easily see cases being made that the scripts for The Witch or The Northman are either on par with or are weaker scripts than his Nosferatu script too. It's certainly one of Eggers' more conventional and straight forward scripts and I do think it could probably be improved a bit here and there, with one very obvious point that comes to my mind, but overall it's a faithful retelling of a very familiar and known story. Even more so in that Eggers actively reintegrates previously shed elements from Dracula into his Nosferatu with the script's analogues for Arthur Holmwood, Dr. Seward and Van Helsing all playing significantly more prominent roles here than in either Murnau or Herzog's versions.

That said, there is one particular area where I hope Eggers went back and improved upon in later drafts; Namely Count Orlok basically stops being a character altogether after arriving in Germany and just acts as a silent movie monster for the rest of the runtime. I'm hoping that comment Eggers made in the latest interview about Skarsgard wanting to pay tribute to Klaus Kinski's performance means that he pushed for more moments in the film that properly give Orlok legitimate character beats and personality in the second half of the story.
 
Not to be a downer, but do we know if this is going to be an original take on this or is this just dracula with the names changed again?
 
It's funny, I've been thinking over this for the last day or so and I'm not entirely sure whether I agree with you or not here. :funny:

I could just as easily see cases being made that the scripts for The Witch or The Northman are either on par with or are weaker scripts than his Nosferatu script too. It's certainly one of Eggers' more conventional and straight forward scripts and I do think it could probably be improved a bit here and there, with one very obvious point that comes to my mind, but overall it's a faithful retelling of a very familiar and known story. Even more so in that Eggers actively reintegrates previously shed elements from Dracula into his Nosferatu with the script's analogues for Arthur Holmwood, Dr. Seward and Van Helsing all playing significantly more prominent roles here than in either Murnau or Herzog's versions.

That said, there is one particular area where I hope Eggers went back and improved upon in later drafts; Namely Count Orlok basically stops being a character altogether after arriving in Germany and just acts as a silent movie monster for the rest of the runtime. I'm hoping that comment Eggers made in the latest interview about Skarsgard wanting to pay tribute to Klaus Kinski's performance means that he pushed for more moments in the film that properly give Orlok legitimate character beats and personality in the second half of the story.
The beauty of the language in The Witch, plus its wealth of thematic complexity puts it head and shoulders above the Nosferatu script. Same with The Northman. There's just no comparison, imo, which isn't to say the script for Nosferatu is bad it is just more conventional which is inherently less compelling coming from someone with as incredibly special a voice as Eggers. It's great, it's also just Dracula - which I have no problem with! But it isn't a script like Eggers others where even in screenplay form it is a beautiful, functional piece of literature in and of itself.
 
The beauty of the language in The Witch, plus its wealth of thematic complexity puts it head and shoulders above the Nosferatu script. Same with The Northman. There's just no comparison, imo, which isn't to say the script for Nosferatu is bad it is just more conventional which is inherently less compelling coming from someone with as incredibly special a voice as Eggers. It's great, it's also just Dracula - which I have no problem with! But it isn't a script like Eggers others where even in screenplay form it is a beautiful, functional piece of literature in and of itself.

I don't mean to be rude or offend, but I do want to check and ask: have you actually read the Nosferatu script? Because it really feels to me like you're waxing lyrical a tad much here on Eggers' other scripts purely on the grounds of neither one being a remake- albeit The Northman is a loose retelling of the same folktale that inspired Hamlet.

To be clear, I'm not saying the scripts for The Witch or The Northman are bad! They aren't! Quite frankly I don't think Eggers has written a bad script to date- or if he has, none of us have ever read it. However, while Nosferatu is fairly straightforward in being a faithful retelling of the original film and Bram Stoker's Dracula, it's still filled to the brim with your typical Eggers trademarks of lush dialogue, vivid description of visuals and mood and above all else, Eggers' obsession over depicting historically accurate cultures and beliefs, as well as certain thematic elements that I would prefer to avoid speaking about openly here, when we have another whole year left before the film proper releases. I know that's all there because I've read the Nosferatu script at least five times over in the past year alone. :funny:

Do I think it's a perfect script? No, of course not. I've already made note of my biggest critique in the previous comment. And it's certainly not the masterwork that is The Lighthouse. That's still Eggers' best to date IMO. But I don't think it's so easy and clear cut to say that the 2016 draft of Nosferatu is inherently a weaker script all around to The Witch or The Northman. To me, all three scripts are around the same threshold of quality in varying ways and personal preference will be a factor on how one might rank them. And that's more indicative of how consistent Robert Eggers is at his craft and quality, especially in contrast with another talented filmmaker of his generation like say Ari Aster.

Not to be a downer, but do we know if this is going to be an original take on this or is this just dracula with the names changed again?

It's a faithful retelling of the Nosferatu variation on the story of Dracula. Eggers generally elaborates and develops characters more here than in previous iterations, and integrates his signature storytelling habit of depicting historically accurate real life cultures, beliefs and practices all throughout the story. But if you're hoping for a wild swerve away from the narrative skeleton of the previous two Nosferatu films or Bram Stoker's Dracula, this ain't it.
 
Not to be a downer, but do we know if this is going to be an original take on this or is this just dracula with the names changed again?
Eggers' take on Nosferatu with familiar elements. I haven't read the script to verify whether or not it's a just shot-by-shot remake (highly doubt that's the case) and not wanting to spoil myself on any potential differences, obviously there'll still be a basic outline of Bram Stroker's Dracula.
 
Eggers' take on Nosferatu with familiar elements. I haven't read the script to verify whether or not it's a just shot-by-shot remake (highly doubt that's the case) and not wanting to spoil myself on any potential differences, obviously there'll still be a basic outline of Bram Stroker's Dracula.

Bingo. Without going into specifics or spoilers, the existing leaked draft of the script is absolutely not a shot-for-shot remake and has its fair share of differences or elaborations throughout, but the influences of the previous Nosferatu films and the original Dracula novel by Bram Stoker are very transparent and clear.
 
Robert Eggers is the most interesting filmmaker of his generation so for as many reservations I have about him doing a more conventional adaptation I am still confident it'll be one of the best movies of the year.
 
Robert Eggers is the most interesting filmmaker of his generation so for as many reservations I have about him doing a more conventional adaptation I am still confident it'll be one of the best movies of the year.

On this, I'm in absolute agreement with you. I would be shocked if this film somehow ended up being a stinker. :funny:

And of course, once Nosferatu comes and goes, I will be very fascinated to see what sort of project Eggers ends up tackling next. I know he was attached to an original film titled The Knight ages ago back when he'd only done The Witch and there was talk of him doing a mini-series on Rasputin at some point too. Would love to see either of those projects resurface and come together.
 
https://www.gamesradar.com/nosferat...utm_content=total-film&utm_source=***********

Nosferatu Director Robert Eggers says Bill Skarsgård is unrecognizable in the role of vampire Count Orlok – even more so than he was as Pennywise.

"There are things that are Schreck-like but I felt we had to do something else," Eggers says in the new 2024 preview issue of Total Film, which hits shelves this week. "Basically I was like, 'What would a dead Transylvanian nobleman actually look like for real?' Bill lost a tremendous amount of weight.

"He’s so transformed in every aspect that I don’t know if people will give him the credit. You can see Bill [as Pennywise] in the It make-up; you can’t detect any Bill here. He worked with an opera coach to lower his voice an octave. I think people are going to think we treated it digitally, but that’s his performance."

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Crazy that Holt has played Thomas Hutter and Renfield.
 

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