The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Rotten Tomatoes score? - Part 4

[jmc]

Reading the blurbs of all the fresh reviews, sounding negative confuses me.

It's pretty much them just saying entertaining but flawed.

 

[Nardz937]

It's pretty much them just saying entertaining but flawed.

I know, just think it's funny how there aren't really any reviews that are completely complimentary of the film with high praise. All the reviewers that do give it a thumbs up, are doing it with sympathy, just barley making it as a pass.

 

[jmc]

I can see why they'd say that. I like Spider-Man but I'm not what you'd call a massive fan, so I went in with no real emotional attachment to the character and ended up enjoying the film in spite of its flaws. It's got some serious issues however that are hard to overlook and if you're a big fan of the character it's probably going to be amplified.

 

[DA_Champion]

"Max’s journey from nobody to super-villain could have been an intriguing exploration of race in New York. Before his transformation, Max is exploited by a large corporation. After he is changed, Max staggers out into the streets of New York in a hoodie, looking either physically or mentally ill. And when he is captured, he is turned into a medical research subject by an unscrupulous doctor. Any one of these situations might have been an interesting way into how black New Yorkers are treated by big companies when they are employees, the police when they are homeless or ill, or the medical establishment when they are sick."

This is a portion of a review from the Washington Post. I'm now convinced that some people give negative reviews because their ideas didn't make it in the film. I think I'm officially done caring about the RT score.

He's saying that Elektro would have been more interesting if he had had depth, and he's right.

 

[InJustice]

He's saying that Elektro would have been more interesting if he had had depth, and he's right.

Except you're generalizing the critic's comments to an extent. The critic focused specifically on making Electro some kind of statement about how race is treated by different entities. That's not really character depth, it's more of making a statement/social commentary by using a character's actions.

Though, I do agree that there should have been depth infused in Electro's character, just not the way that the critic suggested.

 

[DA_Champion]

Except you're generalizing the critic's comments to an extent. The critic focused specifically on making Electro some kind of statement about how race is treated by different entities. That's not really character depth, it's more of making a statement/social commentary by using a character's actions.

Though, I do agree that there should have been depth infused in Electro's character, just not the way that the critic suggested.

The critic is giving one particular example of how Elektro could have had depth. He has a point, actually.

After George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin two years back, a lot of Americans defended Zimmerman on the basis that Martin was wearing a hoodie. Within the american popular consciousness, the hoodie is associated with black punks. It s believed that any black person wearing a hoodie is "looking for trouble".

Given that ASM2 exploited that imagery, the criticism is fair game.

 

[danistheman12]

I would've liked to see more scenes with max being experimented on by oscorp. That would've sold the huge personality transformation that max undergoes as electro.

 

[Guts]

I thought that it was weird that the disease that norman and harry had didn't have a name. they had symptoms, such as sores and shaky hands but it was just weird that they have an incurable and unnamed disease.

 

[Persistence]

Yeah, the critics got it right....rehash, poor muddled, plot development. The movie lacked depth and warmth.

 

[Spideyfan117]

I thought that it was weird that the disease that norman and harry had didn't have a name. they had symptoms, such as sores and shaky hands but it was just weird that they have an incurable and unnamed disease.

It did have a name. Norman says it's 'retroactive hyperplasia' or something along those lines. Or you could call it the 'Osborn Curse' since that's simpler. lol

 

[Guts]

It did have a name. Norman says it's 'retroactive hyperplasia' or something along those lines. Or you could call it the 'Osborn Curse' since that's simpler. lol

Thanks for the correction.

 

[Spideyfan117]

Thanks for the correction.

No problemo.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The critic is giving one particular example of how Elektro could have had depth. He has a point, actually.

After George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin two years back, a lot of Americans defended Zimmerman on the basis that Martin was wearing a hoodie. Within the american popular consciousness, the hoodie is associated with black punks. It s believed that any black person wearing a hoodie is "looking for trouble".

Given that ASM2 exploited that imagery, the criticism is fair game.

I don't think commentary about the Trayvon Martin incident would've been well suited for Spider-man.

That issue is a minefield.

 

[InJustice]

The critic is giving one particular example of how Elektro could have had depth. He has a point, actually.

After George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin two years back, a lot of Americans defended Zimmerman on the basis that Martin was wearing a hoodie. Within the american popular consciousness, the hoodie is associated with black punks. It s believed that any black person wearing a hoodie is "looking for trouble".

Given that ASM2 exploited that imagery, the criticism is fair game.

I understand what the critic was doing, but that's not depth. It's simply social commentary. Even if you use Electro as a form of social commentary, you still have the character arc to deal with (which was handled poorly IMO), which is the whole point of even having character depth to begin with.

As for the hoodie, I think that's grasping at straws. In context of the film, the hoodie isn't a symbol of injustice as the Trayvon Martin case suggests. If anything, it's Electro's disguise and a means to keep a low key until Spider-Man and the authorities aggravate the situation.

 

[SpideyFan866]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has a "B+" on Cinemascore.

 

[DA_Champion]

I understand what the critic was doing, but that's not depth. It's simply social commentary. Even if you use Electro as a form of social commentary, you still have the character arc to deal with (which was handled poorly IMO), which is the whole point of even having character depth to begin with.

As for the hoodie, I think that's grasping at straws. In context of the film, the hoodie isn't a symbol of injustice as the Trayvon Martin case suggests. If anything, it's Electro's disguise and a means to keep a low key until Spider-Man and the authorities aggravate the situation.

Whether its depth or empty commentary depends on the content. The critic was saying that they could have done something interesting.

In this case, there was nearly no content, just some racial imagery. The fact is that many white americans do get scared when they see a black male in a hoodie.

 

[spider-neil]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has a "B+" on Cinemascore.

Is that good? I don't know how that works.

 

[spiderman2]

After this movie getting this kind of review I think it is afficle cretis don't like love store CBM because how this has a score in the 50's is beyond me

 

[TWayneP]

Whether its depth or empty commentary depends on the content. The critic was saying that they could have done something interesting.

In this case, there was nearly no content, just some racial imagery. The fact is that many white americans do get scared when they see a black male in a hoodie.

We'll he wasn't a black male in a hoodie.




He was a blue male in a hoodie t:

 

[DA_Champion]

After this movie getting this kind of review I think it is afficle cretis don't like love store CBM because how this has a score in the 50's is beyond me

Critics gave 94% to the other spider man 2.

 

[spiderman2]

It wasn't quite a love store it was more about peter having trouble being spider man and losing his powers then a love store even though it did have some of that.

 

[jmc]

Is that good? I don't know how that works.

I'm pretty sure Green Lantern had the same B+ rating.

 

[spider-neil]

I'm pretty sure Green Lantern had the same B+ rating.

Oof!

 

[BlackFox]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has a "B+" on Cinemascore.

Same as The Other Woman.

 

[Tymminator]

I'm pretty sure Green Lantern had the same B+ rating.

Seriously? Wow.