The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Rotten Tomatoes score? - Part 4

[The Joker]

What's wrong exactly with having a villian that is a jerk? I don't want to love them.

Harry is supposed to be a tragic villain like The Lizard, Two Face, Mr. Freeze etc. He is a good kid by nature who is simply misguided. He thinks he is honoring his father by avenging his death. His death in the comics is one of the saddest moments in Spider-Man lore.

Nobody would shed a tear at the death of this arrogant, egotistical, evil little jerk that is Harry Osborn in TASM2. It's like they transplanted Norman's personality into Harry, only it was a much inferior version of Norman. A bratty kid "YOU'RE A FRAUD, SPIDER-MAN" *kicks over a table then jumps on a couch and pouts his head into the cushions*. Like a kid who's mommy said he's not allowed have a new toy he wants.

I think trying to live is a pretty good motivation. Its going to make someone desperate and unpredictable.

It was lazy and under developed. We're just told he has this genetic condition out of the clear blue sky in his very first scene, and are just meant to care without giving the audience reasons to care. Just like we're just told he and Peter were best buds for years, without developing a proper friendship between them.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It should be called MUTO(feat. Godzilla cameo) t:

I've seen many Godzilla films in which Godzilla was in the film less than the new one. Literally just finished Godzilla vs Megalon. He is in it WAY less than the new one. It's not uncommon in a Godzilla movie for Godzilla to be built up slowly. Hence why I think that complaint doesn't exactly hold water.

 

[spider-neil]

ASM2 got panned and I was gripped from beginning to end. Godzilla was praised and I was bored throughout. The only movie I have seen this year that was praised AND I enjoyed (but not as much as ASM2) was WS which has be said was awesome.

I used to let RT guide me but now I could care less about it. Well, apart from Transendence, 14% is too low for me to take a chance on.

 

[HanShotFirst]

I've seen many Godzilla films in which Godzilla was in the film less than the new one. Literally just finished Godzilla vs Megalon. He is in it WAY less than the new one. It's not uncommon in a Godzilla movie for Godzilla to be built up slowly. Hence why I think that complaint doesn't exactly hold water.

Then I'd rate all those movies same as the newest Godzilla, 5 or 6 out of 10.

I dunno man, I think Pacific Rim and its epic monster smackdowns changed everything for me, it reminded me of G vs SpaceGodzilla's final battle scene which I loved as a kid.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Then I'd rate all those movies same as the newest Godzilla, 5 or 6 out of 10.

I dunno man, I think Pacific Rim and its epic monster smackdowns changed everything for me, it reminded me of G vs SpaceGodzilla's final battle scene which I loved as a kid.

But Godzilla vs Spacegodzilla was also the worst Heisei Godzilla film, LOL!

Don't get me wrong, I LIKED Pacific Rim. But, the story and script were very weak. Godzilla is a much better movie structurally.

 

[Human Torch]

Don't get me wrong,I'd have preferred Norman as the Goblin first.But when you already had Raimi presenting that story to perfection less than a decade ago,you know they were gonna change things up to justify GG's inclusion in this series.

 

[webhead731]

But Godzilla vs Spacegodzilla was also the worst Heisei Godzilla film, LOL!

Don't get me wrong, I LIKED Pacific Rim. But, the story and script were very weak. Godzilla is a much better movie structurally.

All the Godzilla movies are fun afternoon movies with some cool special effects, but a lot of laughable acting and some boring moments. I think the new one was great, and much better and more serious than the older ones.

I agree with Pacific Rim. I honestly didn't get into it as much as others seemed to.

 

[chaseter]

Now at 72% for the audience score. Weren't people clutching at that to show how the critics were "wrong"?

 

[spider-neil]

Now at 72% for the audience score. Weren't people clutching at that to show how the critics were "wrong"?

72% is descent.

 

[HanShotFirst]

All the Godzilla movies are fun afternoon movies with some cool special effects, but a lot of laughable acting and some boring moments. I think the new one was great, and much better and more serious than the older ones.

I agree with Pacific Rim. I honestly didn't get into it as much as others seemed to.

What the f..?!

 

[AnneFan]

ASM2 got panned and I was gripped from beginning to end. Godzilla was praised and I was bored throughout. The only movie I have seen this year that was praised AND I enjoyed (but not as much as ASM2) was WS which has be said was awesome.

Exactly my experience, spider-neil.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

72% is descent.

Exactly

 

[spider-neil]

Exactly my experience, spider-neil.

Loved your user review, Anne. Mirrored my feelings for ASM2 perfectly.

 

[The Joker]

Now at 72% for the audience score. Weren't people clutching at that to show how the critics were "wrong"?

It won't stay at 72% either. At the rate it's been dropping it'll be in the 60's by the end of the month.

 

[chaseter]

72% is descent.

Freudian slip?

 

[C. Lee]

Harry is supposed to be a tragic villain like The Lizard, Two Face, Mr. Freeze etc. He is a good kid by nature who is simply misguided. He thinks he is honoring his father by avenging his death. His death in the comics is one of the saddest moments in Spider-Man lore.

Nobody would shed a tear at the death of this arrogant, egotistical, evil little jerk that is Harry Osborn in TASM2. It's like they transplanted Norman's personality into Harry, only it was a much inferior version of Norman. A bratty kid "YOU'RE A FRAUD, SPIDER-MAN" *kicks over a table then jumps on a couch and pouts his head into the cushions*. Like a kid who's mommy said he's not allowed have a new toy he wants.



It was lazy and under developed. We're just told he has this genetic condition out of the clear blue sky in his very first scene, and are just meant to care without giving the audience reasons to care. Just like we're just told he and Peter were best buds for years, without developing a proper friendship between them.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Lord]

Now at 72% for the audience score. Weren't people clutching at that to show how the critics were "wrong"?

While the new film hasn't been all that well received, i don't think Rotten Tomatoes is the best place to see the opinion of the general public, i mean, look at the rating the audience gave to the Transformers films, yet many still go to see them and their facebook page is one of the most liked when it comes to FB movie pages.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The point about the RT audience score is that is what many here were attempting to use to prove that general audiences liked it. And it has been falling badly since the release.

 

[metaphysician]

72% is descent.

It would be, if the audience score weren't completely useless. As is, that is. . . useless. Particularly since the ballot box got stuffed to the high 90s before the movie even came out.

If RT wants anyone to take the audience rating seriously, it needs to only accept audience reviews *after* the movie reaches broad release.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Well in the beginning some people were saying the GA "loved" it, which changed to the GA "liked" it when the score started to drop.

 

[spider-neil]

Freudian slip?

Typo.

 

[Lord]

Well, yeah, it's kind of difficult to make a consensus about if people liked a movie, but with The Amazing Spider-Man 2 i'm not seeing much love from the general public, this film needed to knock everything out of the park, it ultimatelly didn't.

 

[spider-neil]

Well in the beginning some people were saying the GA "loved" it, which changed to the GA "liked" it when the score started to drop.

I think the people who like the movie are now less bothered whether other people like it or not. This back and forth has been going on for weeks.

 

[spider-neil]

Harry is supposed to be a tragic villain like The Lizard, Two Face, Mr. Freeze etc. He is a good kid by nature who is simply misguided. He thinks he is honoring his father by avenging his death. His death in the comics is one of the saddest moments in Spider-Man lore.

Is he supposed to be tragic? That's an assumption. The words that first come out of his mouth are of an entitled spoilt brat with abandonment issues, right down to his 'every wants my money' line.
The movie even calls that out with Makin's 'the difference is no one will miss you' put down. Was he supposed to be sympathetic? I'm sorry but I don't think he was.

It was lazy and under developed. We're just told he has this genetic condition out of the clear blue sky in his very first scene, and are just meant to care without giving the audience reasons to care. Just like we're just told he and Peter were best buds for years, without developing a proper friendship between them.

So you need to be shown every scene? The chemistry between Peter and Harry with the 'There he is' line was MORE than enough to convey the friendship they shared as kids.

Just because Raimi went with sympathy with HIS Harry (like all of his villains) don't assume Web is with his version of Harry. I got sympathetic angle for Max but I didn't get a HINT of that for Harry and I doubt I supposed to, not with what he said, how he acted and devious look in his eyes even with a 'innocent' conversation with Gwen in a lift.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Is he supposed to be tragic? That's an assumption. The words that first come out of his mouth are of an entitled spoilt brat with abandonment issues, right down to his 'every wants my money' line.
The movie even calls that out with Makin's 'the difference is no one will miss you' put down. Was he supposed to be sympathetic? I'm sorry but I don't think he was.

Uhhhh yeah. Harry Osborn is a tragic character. The Harry in this film? No, he's vain, callous, and a brat.