The Dark Knight Rises Roven: Joker Could Return

[adamwest3121]

I am working on some fan art of FIRE MAN. I will probably draw a picture of the scene where he kills alfred at wayne manor, b4 he crushes and destroys it

 

[CJ]

..Sounds like a Mega Man boss.

 

[NoirMan82]

I am working on some fan art of FIRE MAN. I will probably draw a picture of the scene where he kills alfred at wayne manor, b4 he crushes and destroys it

I await this drawing with an uncontrolable quantity of anticipation.

 

[BestGirl]

How is Fire Man different from Firefly?

 

[Nightmare]

Pyro > Fire Man

 

[Venom 1988]

I think in Batman 3 they should CGI Joker as Heath Ledger and use dialogue from Heath's other movies for the talking.

Joker will team up with a new bad guy named FIRE MAN who will crush and burn gotham city and kill alfred and another new character called Donald Jones who is a curropt business man who takes over the gotham city monorail business.

FIREMAN will become joker's new boss

Isn't this the plot to that Batman: Inferno novel that came out some years back?

 

[Gilpesh]

edit

 

[Nightmare]

wtf...

 

[Gilpesh]

That's not the real link either.

 

[adamwest3121]

Damn there is already a BATMAN: INFERNO comic? I was hoping they would call batman 3 that. Looks like they will have to settle for BATMAN FLAMEFIRE as the new title.

FIRE MAN is different from Firefly and pyro because he has a different costume. Just like how King Tut is a different bad guy to Ra's Al Ghul...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Instead of just FIRE MAN. What about OUT OF THE FRYER, INTO THE FIRE MAN?

 

[Boom]

Fire Man ?

 

[Mee]

What about INTO THE FIRE MAN?

Sounds like a porno.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

That's the idea.

 

[ViciousValentin]

HAS anyone in this thread read my Script outline for BATMAN REVENGE

check it out let me know what you think a great story that would feature THE JOKER as the main villian

Bruce will struggle hard with the consequences of being Batman and will vow to give up. The only way to do this is to replace Harvey Dent himself or find someone that can do it and support them both as Wayne and as Batman.

The employee from TDK who found blueprints for Tumbler (BATMOBILE) is found murdered leading to an even greater pressure from the city for Gordon to capture Batman and Gordon himself now doesn’t know who to trust( even Batman himself). Batman is framed for the murder.

A new and mysterious female D.A. emerges Talia Head and sparks the interest of Bruce Wayne and she is secretly Talia al Ghul (Despite not appearing in Batman Begins, where Ra's al Ghul is the main villain, she is mentioned in the novelization when Ra's writes to his daughter in Switzerland and al Ghul's character biography in the DVD special features.)
The Joker was simply a pawn used by a mobster who wanted to move in on the Falconne family. This is the Black Mask an older man , rich, a rogue member of the league of shadows After leaving the League he formed the false face society who recruited the Joker tortured him and drove him insane with the blue flowers (great way to go back show Joker's origin) Black Mask's most important weapons are fear and intimidation. He is known for his brutal and sadistic torture techniques, especially on the face. To the Black Mask, Joker’s purpose was served as he drove the Batman from hero to vigilante in the general public eye
the Black Mask is secretly also a wealthy business man and has the pull to push around Bruce Wayne and also fabricate documents and information. His Intel is unparalleled, he nearly completes a hostile takeover of Wayne enterprises, and he is a master criminal strategist with vast amount of resources. He was the crime lord of Gotham city for many years as an undercover businessman and was the original target of Ras al Ghul. Black Mask also uses his connections to gather information on his enemies, and then hits them at their weak points, such as family and friends. (Ties to Thomas Wayne, and his death) The Black Mask infiltrates Wayne Enterprises and also kills Lucious Fox. Black Mask commits a series of murders disguised as Batman. This plan was complicated by the escape of Joker. Joker finds and kills Black Mask exposing his true identity.
Talia Al Ghul will lead a team of the league of shadows in revenge for her father’s death she knows Bruce Wayne is Batman and this poses a serious threat since everyone is on the hunt for Batman she is unaware of whom the Black mask is and that he was a partner with her father in the league.

Gordon discovers he must find a way to get info out of the Joker, while in Arkham he is receiving treatment from a new doctor Dr. Harleen Quinzel who turns out to be an operative of the Black Mask. The Black Mask is determined to kill the Joker to conceal his identity but the operative does a double cross, and frees the Joker.. He then kidnaps Commissioner Gordon and taunts him with enlarged photographs of his wounded (family member), in an attempt to prove that any normal man can go insane after having "one really bad day." The Joker ridicules him as an example of "the average man," a naïve weakling doomed to insanity.

The False Face Society and the League of Shadows Hunters led by Talia go to war in the streets of Gotham. Talia plays into Bruce until the Joker exposes her true identity. She is a complex character, not quite heroine nor villainess but more of an anti-hero.

Climax would be Joker now heading the mob in replace of the Black Mask and has a plan to detonate another bomb similar to what destroys Wayne enterprises. Batman has to take down remaining league of shadows hunters, False Face Society and stop the Joker.

Talia ends up stepping in front of bullet meant for Batman as her heart has changed after she has witnessed all the destruction caused by her own fathers hand and that of their followers.
K.B. 8/24/09

 

[adamwest3121]

I already made a Batman Fan Film called 'BATMAN REVENGE'

check it out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpIIiCYGUYw

This was before I invented FIRE MAN. Any future sequels will feature him.

 

[NoirMan82]

I already made a Batman Fan Film called 'BATMAN REVENGE'

check it out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpIIiCYGUYw

This was before I invented FIRE MAN. Any future sequels will feature him.

I find that video offensive for a multitude of reasons.

 

[Thurman]

ok so i think that the joker should be in the third movie... heath was unbelievable but we need the joker to be in the movies along with two face because he was just plain bad ass! but for a recast of the joker, no one will want to top that because it was just unbelievable how it was portrayed .. i'm not saying we need a better performance, but a tribute performance to heath and i believe that joseph gordon levitt is a young talented actor who would be the person to pull it off and is the type of actor that nolan would look for, an actor that is underrated. JGL is perfect for the role and hes already working with nolan in inception so nolan may very well pick him if he is to recast the joker.. any thoughts? let me know

 

[cin0]

i heard a rumor that joseph gordan levitts was goin to play someone that they would be trying to figure out if he was either the real joker just changed a lil bit, or if he was just the joker's copy cat.

 

[Nightmare]

Did you hear that rumor on this board?

 

[cin0]

no, it was another website about batman that i dont remeber the name of. i found it while i was lookin for christian bale look alikes.

 

[Nightmare]

Chistian Bale lookalikes? Why were you looking for that lol.

 

[cin0]

well, this was a while ago when the rumors came up about chris not doin a third batman. i felt like if he was replaced it should be by somebody that looked and sounded like him and was also around the same height. that way it would be more believable that they were both the same person. i got pretty close but still havent seen anybody that was near the same as he was.

 

[sauronthegreat]

Maybe the whole idea of having Joseph Gordon Levitt in Inception was for Nolan to see if he could fit in the third Batman film as the Joker.
As much as I have respect for Heath and his performance, I wouldn't like the character, which he so exceptionally mastered, be forgotten and left out from the finale of this trilogy.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Blah blah blah enough with this recasting the Joker and the Joker can be a force who can be interpreted in different ways nonsense.

Ledger was Nolan's Joker. He was the first and only choice Nolan had for the role. And when they talked about it they were on the exact same page with eachother. And I'm starting to think Nolan wanted him to return, and naturally, he thought he was great and natrually had the thought he could return and only that thoght (we know how Nolan likes to stay focused on one thing) and Nolan has mentioned he could be in 10 other movies. When Ledger died, what might have been a story for Nolan to pursue was gone, and now is waiting for something he wants to be committed to. And "You and I are destined to do this forever" line is an indicator he must have wanted him back. Though we don't know how big of a role it would of been. But nope, now you can forget about it.

An actor is offered, what else can they do? Ledger covered all the ground for this Joker and they would share the same sentiments. Actors have respect among eachother, and wouldn't want to step on Ledger's Joker no matter how well written he would be. They would say, "Well, what else is there? Heath pretty much covered it." And what if an actor got the role? He would have to step into the shoes of what is now regarded as an image of pop culture that has been referenced and cherished since the film came out. Expectations, not to mention continuity screweing up. There would be nothing else to do. And Nolan is respecful in a way and smart not to recast. Heath was Nolan's Joker. That's it. Goodbye, we can move on now to other villains. Recasting for it is disrespectful to the image of what Nolan and Ledger created in the first place.

And people are being selfish. Think of the Nolan for a second here and not just stupid excuses to bring him back. When Heath passed, it hit him hard, and he even wrote a memorial for him in Newsweek. Nolan would have to stare at this different actor after he and Heath helped create the Joker. Seeing that would be gut wrenching.

BB3 doesn't need the Joker to continue. "Because he's badass and Levitt can do it! He looks like him!" is childish and stupid to even think about. I don't care if you get a Daniel Day Lewis to do it, like I said, actors have respect among themselves, why would they want to step on something that's already been covered?

I love the idea of Joker helping Batman in prison but it just won't happen. And even gettign an actor that looks lke Heath is even worse. It's just the idea of trying to copy the man and try to do somethign else is stupid. You haven't thought this out.