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[GuestStar2004]

I believe you're wrong, the arm stuck in the x-jet only helped the Sentinels to find them faster.

either way both work but which one worked better? But what makes them more of a threat? them finding them by themselves showing or them finding them purely because the had a tracker on the jet after them saving rogue?

 

[TheNewSlayer]

either way both work but which one worked better? But what makes them more of a threat? them finding them by themselves showing or them finding them purely because the had a tracker on the jet after them saving rogue?

Well, they'd eventually find them no matter what right? It was only a matter of time. The tracker only made it to be faster and more logical. it was kind of lame that they'd always find them without any good explanation. The Rogue Cut was more of a complete movie in my opinion cause it answered a lot of questions.

I can tell by now that you loved the theatrical cut better. So to you the theatrical cut it will always make more sense than the Rogue Cut.

 

[psylockolussus]

The deleted Mystique/Beast that were shown in The Rogue Cut were unnecessary IMO.

While the deleted Rogue scenes lacked good pacing, like I loved that Rogue was there, the original gang was complete as it was intended, but the rescue mission was too quick. Though IMO, the only deleted scene that should have been deleted was the Storm/Wolverine kissing scene, it was badly shot and would have led to another answer of why Wolverine/Storm are suddenly lovers.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

The deleted Mystique/Beast that were shown in The Rogue Cut were unnecessary IMO.

While the deleted Rogue scenes lacked good pacing, like I loved that Rogue was there, the original gang was complete as it was intended, but the rescue mission was too quick. Though IMO, the only deleted scene that should have been deleted was the Storm/Wolverine kissing scene, it was badly shot and would have led to another answer of why Wolverine/Storm are suddenly lovers.

I agree that the deleted scene of Storm and Wolverine should be removed from the film, it was a good call for they not put that scene in either theatrical or rogue cut.

I also think that the rescue scene could have been longer and I also think that even though Rogue was still stunned she should be able to help Iceman since she absorb his powers.

 

[psylockolussus]

Personally, I just wish Anna Paquin had more time to be on the set, like even if she was still cut, she could have been the character at the beginning of the film who just escaped from that mutant prison and that would take like 1 day for them to reshoot it.

But if it was up to me, she would have been at the jet with Storm, Professor X, Magneto and Wolverine at the beginning!!! and that she became a stronger mutant with superstrength and flight and borrowing every mutant power she could get and that just would have been more awesome to watch than the theatrical cut and the Rogue cut. Maybe we would have seen a Sentinel kill her too, that would have been intense!

 

[TheNewSlayer]

Personally, I just wish Anna Paquin had more time to be on the set, like even if she was still cut, she could have been the character at the beginning of the film who just escaped from that mutant prison and that would take like 1 day for them to reshoot it.

But if it was up to me, she would have been at the jet with Storm, Professor X, Magneto and Wolverine at the beginning!!! and that she became a stronger mutant with superstrength and flight and borrowing every mutant power she could get and that just would have been more awesome to watch than the theatrical cut and the Rogue cut. Maybe we would have seen a Sentinel kill her too, that would have been intense!

Agreed. I don't know why they didn't think about that. Maybe Anna wasn't available cause she was still doing True Blood.

 

[BeholdMe]

I'm sure we got what we did because of her hectic True Blood schedule at the time.

 

[X-Maniac]

The Rogue Cut was far better... except for the Mystique/Beast scenes, which were not good. She didn't need to smash Cerebro, it was pretty obvious she would be wherever Trask was.

While it's a shame that Rogue was once again the damsel in distress, it did make a more rounded movie experience.

They could have kept at least some of the future conversation about the time travel in the theatrical cut.

And it would also have helped if they had added more discussion/explanation about why Peter didn't go to Paris with them (it's one of the main complaints my friends have about the film - they know Quicksilver could have ended the Paris fight much more easily and they know that he had to be taken out of the story because of that, but they wanted more logic to the fact he didn't go with them).

 

[JJLong]

And it would also have helped if they had added more discussion/explanation about why Peter didn't go to Paris with them (it's one of the main complaints my friends have about the film - they know Quicksilver could have ended the Paris fight much more easily and they know that he had to be taken out of the story because of that, but they wanted more logic to the fact he didn't go with them).

Here's my problem with this line of thinking when it comes to Quicksilver in DOFP. It hinges on the assumption that he will try to stop Magneto. There is nothing that guarantees that.

And why bring him along? He's clearly morally ambiguous and that makes him a wild card that could potentially screw everything up. They need him to get Erik out of the Pentagon, they believe they do not need him for Paris. So why bring him along and let him know the information that Wolverine is from the future.

 

[X-Maniac]

Here's my problem with this line of thinking when it comes to Quicksilver in DOFP. It hinges on the assumption that he will try to stop Magneto. There is nothing that guarantees that.

Magneto didn't need stopping at that point, it was Mystique they were trying to stop from shooting Trask.

And why bring him along? He's clearly morally ambiguous and that makes him a wild card that could potentially screw everything up. They need him to get Erik out of the Pentagon, they believe they do not need him for Paris. So why bring him along and let him know the information that Wolverine is from the future.

I raised it because i have heard other people (in particular, several friends of mine) raise it.

I think it could have been addressed more satisfactorily. Perhaps a line or two of dialogue at the plane where they parted company.

"Are you sure I can't come along to Paris?"

"No, Peter, your mother will already be wondering where you are. We need to do this on our own, we'll take it from here."

 

[xmanzo]

Here's my problem with this line of thinking when it comes to Quicksilver in DOFP. It hinges on the assumption that he will try to stop Magneto. There is nothing that guarantees that.

And why bring him along? He's clearly morally ambiguous and that makes him a wild card that could potentially screw everything up. They need him to get Erik out of the Pentagon, they believe they do not need him for Paris. So why bring him along and let him know the information that Wolverine is from the future.

i think singer already explained this one...its all about saving mystique's soul and those 3 mutants is emotionally attached to her.....DOFP is really all about Her...

 

[X-Maniac]

i think singer already explained this one...its all about saving mystique's soul and those 3 mutants is emotionally attached to her.....DOFP is really all about Her...

We all know that. But the story's logic needs to hold up. In my view the Quicksilver thing was something of a question mark that wasn't fully addressed (rather like why did Jean leave the plane in X2. You can't use thematic directorial decisions to handwave plot points in the film)

 

[EnDz0n3]

So why bring him along and let him know the information that Wolverine is from the future.

I'm not on either side on this argument but I take exception to the above.

It seemed like Wolverine had no problem telling everyone else he's not from that time.

"I just got here like 5 seconds ago." was what he said to the mob guys the first time he showed up in the 70s.

 

[JJLong]

Magneto didn't need stopping at that point, it was Mystique they were trying to stop from shooting Trask.

Right, but your friends are looking at the situation in hindsight as audience members watching a movie. I was talking about Quicksilver stopping Magneto because the reason everything goes to hell in Paris is because Magneto decides to kill Mystique.

If that never happened and they just got her and left, the question would probably have never entered their mind.

Its just a line of thinking that I believe looks at characters as plot devices rather than as actual characters.

The movie established that Quicksilver is not exactly the most morally sound character, with all of the stolen stuff he has which is why he's easily convinced to help break into the pentagon.

Charles is clearly apprehensive of him, but they don't really have any choice if they want to get Magneto out.

Once they've used him for that one purpose that they needed him for, why keep him around when it could potentially muddy the waters.

I really don't think there is a need for any additional justification in the movie.

i think singer already explained this one...its all about saving mystique's soul and those 3 mutants is emotionally attached to her.....DOFP is really all about Her...

Yes, this is another reason. Even if Quicksilver were to stop Mystique, they still need to convince her to stop her crusade against Trask. The situation isn't as simple as people make it out to be.

I'm not on either side on this argument but I take exception to the above.

It seemed like Wolverine had no problem telling everyone else he's not from that time.

"I just got here like 5 seconds ago." was what he said to the mob guys the first time he showed up in the 70s.

He had just made the trip back in time, he wasn't exactly thinking in the most logical sense at the moment when immediately confronted with a potential conflict.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Oh come on you're just making excuses.

It also doesn't help your case that it was Wolverine who suggested to include Quicksilver into the plans so obviously he trusts him.

For the record, I agree with Singer, though Quicksilver could've quickly ended the situation with Mystique and stopped her from killing Trask, the task was much more than that. It was to reach into her soul and have her make the decision for herself.

But that's the danger of making Quicksilver OP. You have to take him out somehow. This is an issue they've been dealing with in Xavier.

 

[X-Maniac]

Right, but your friends are looking at the situation in hindsight as audience members watching a movie. I was talking about Quicksilver stopping Magneto because the reason everything goes to hell in Paris is because Magneto decides to kill Mystique.

If that never happened and they just got her and left, the question would probably have never entered their mind.

Its just a line of thinking that I believe looks at characters as plot devices rather than as actual characters.

The movie established that Quicksilver is not exactly the most morally sound character, with all of the stolen stuff he has which is why he's easily convinced to help break into the pentagon.

Charles is clearly apprehensive of him, but they don't really have any choice if they want to get Magneto out.

Once they've used him for that one purpose that they needed him for, why keep him around when it could potentially muddy the waters.

I really don't think there is a need for any additional justification in the movie.



Yes, this is another reason. Even if Quicksilver were to stop Mystique, they still need to convince her to stop her crusade against Trask. The situation isn't as simple as people make it out to be.



He had just made the trip back in time, he wasn't exactly thinking in the most logical sense at the moment when immediately confronted with a potential conflict.

Unfortunately, Quicksilver did very much come across as a plot device.

He happened to live right near Washington. Wolverine happened to know him and know where he had lived as a child in the 70s (though we never met Quicksilver in the original trilogy). And when Singer spoke about Quicksilver's inclusion, it was because he had 'devised a sequence' for him, not for any other reason. All of which points in one direction: plot device!

I'm a big fan of DoFP but I can understand questions about his part in the movie.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

Back on topic, I hoping the run time to be officially revealed tomorrow. A lot of people are saying that it is 2 hours and 27 minutes but this is not official yet.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

Only 30 days for the movie to be released in Europe and South America and yet no news about the running time.

I wonder if tomorrow we'll have some news from CinemaCon.

 

[psylockolussus]

I want it to be 2hours/22 minutes!

 

[TheNewSlayer]

I want it to be 2hours/22 minutes!

The very least. I'm hoping for at least 2 hours and 33 minutes.

 

[Mystique's Leg]

I'm still thinking it'll be more like 130-135 minutes. It's been a while since Singer said it could be his longest X-movie, so things could've changed.

 

[Takato]

I don't care what the runtime is as long as its a good edit and Ottman is brill.

 

[EnDz0n3]

In Ottman I Trust.

He made the right calls with DOFP as seen in the Audio Commentary of the film.