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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6898785

San Francisco Orders Paid Sick Leave for All

by Richard Gonzales

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A poster gives notice of the city's new paid sick leave ordinance. City and County of San Francisco





Morning Edition, January 18, 2007 · Starting next month, San Francisco will become the first city in the country requiring employers to give their workers paid sick leave. But some are questioning whether businesses there can afford the mandate, which comes on the heels of other new benefits in the workplace.
Jeanette Jweinat, who works at the New York Street Cafe in San Francisco's Mission District, is one of more than 100,000 workers in the city who are not currently paid for sick days. That will change Feb. 5, when all employees — full- and part-time, permanent and temporary — will be covered. And they can miss work even when they aren't sick, but have to stay home to help a domestic partner or a family member.
In Jweinat's case, that means caring for her 10-year-old son.
"You know, sometimes he's sick and I have to go pick him up from school or he's not feeling good and he needs the day off," Jweinat says. "I just had to leave work. I had to take that chance. That's more important, that's my priority right now. So you got to do what you got to do."
Employees will accrue one hour of paid sick leave for every 30 hours of work. There are caps depending on the size of the business.
But businessman Bill Stone forsees a whole new set of bookkeeping headaches and added expenses to cover his 21 employees. Stone runs the nearby Atlas Cafe.
"Basically, it's just going to make it more expensive to operate your business," Stone says. "Small business is going to have to pass that cost onto their customers. Which is fine if everyone wants these kinds of things."
Many details of the new law still mystify some employers, such as when and how an employee can use accrued sick leave, says attorney Nancy Berner.
"Part of what I'm hearing is simple confusion," she says. "They're calling and saying 'what do I have to do to comply?' And its not entirely clear. I try to give them the most conservative advice because I want them to comply and they want to comply. But it's come up so quickly. It was on the ballot in November and by February fifth it's law."
Supporters of the new sick-leave law dismiss that complaint, saying that its merits were aired out during the November campaign, which was engineered by a coalition of mostly young restaurant workers. City Supervisor Chris Daly, who wrote the law, says it is a benefit to public health.
"Especially in the flu time of the year — which is right now — folks who are sick, especially with the flu, you don't want them to go to work," Daly says. "You want them to stay home and get better and not get their co-workers and customers sick."
Still, the new law comes after San Francisco hiked its minimum wage to $9.14 an hour. That's the highest local minimum wage in America. And the city still hasn't phased in its requirement for employers to provide health coverage.
Atlas Cafe owner Bill Stone says all these things combined could strangle small businesses in an already expensive city.
"If we want independent restaurants and independent stores and shops you have to make it possible to survive, not just the big guys," Stone says. "Like Starbucks and Wal-Mart and all those things that everybody hates so much. But if you make it too hard to run a small business, only the big guys are going to be able to do it."
Meanwhile, city officials are taking steps to publicize the new law, which could further cement San Francisco's reputation as a social laboratory.
 
That is stupid. Free-Market-Economy.
 
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6898785

San Francisco Orders Paid Sick Leave for All

by Richard Gonzales

Read the Poster (PDF)

A poster gives notice of the city's new paid sick leave ordinance. City and County of San Francisco





Morning Edition, January 18, 2007 · Starting next month, San Francisco will become the first city in the country requiring employers to give their workers paid sick leave. But some are questioning whether businesses there can afford the mandate, which comes on the heels of other new benefits in the workplace.
Jeanette Jweinat, who works at the New York Street Cafe in San Francisco's Mission District, is one of more than 100,000 workers in the city who are not currently paid for sick days. That will change Feb. 5, when all employees — full- and part-time, permanent and temporary — will be covered. And they can miss work even when they aren't sick, but have to stay home to help a domestic partner or a family member.
In Jweinat's case, that means caring for her 10-year-old son.
"You know, sometimes he's sick and I have to go pick him up from school or he's not feeling good and he needs the day off," Jweinat says. "I just had to leave work. I had to take that chance. That's more important, that's my priority right now. So you got to do what you got to do."
Employees will accrue one hour of paid sick leave for every 30 hours of work. There are caps depending on the size of the business.
But businessman Bill Stone forsees a whole new set of bookkeeping headaches and added expenses to cover his 21 employees. Stone runs the nearby Atlas Cafe.
"Basically, it's just going to make it more expensive to operate your business," Stone says. "Small business is going to have to pass that cost onto their customers. Which is fine if everyone wants these kinds of things."
Many details of the new law still mystify some employers, such as when and how an employee can use accrued sick leave, says attorney Nancy Berner.
"Part of what I'm hearing is simple confusion," she says. "They're calling and saying 'what do I have to do to comply?' And its not entirely clear. I try to give them the most conservative advice because I want them to comply and they want to comply. But it's come up so quickly. It was on the ballot in November and by February fifth it's law."
Supporters of the new sick-leave law dismiss that complaint, saying that its merits were aired out during the November campaign, which was engineered by a coalition of mostly young restaurant workers. City Supervisor Chris Daly, who wrote the law, says it is a benefit to public health.
"Especially in the flu time of the year — which is right now — folks who are sick, especially with the flu, you don't want them to go to work," Daly says. "You want them to stay home and get better and not get their co-workers and customers sick."
Still, the new law comes after San Francisco hiked its minimum wage to $9.14 an hour. That's the highest local minimum wage in America. And the city still hasn't phased in its requirement for employers to provide health coverage.
Atlas Cafe owner Bill Stone says all these things combined could strangle small businesses in an already expensive city.
"If we want independent restaurants and independent stores and shops you have to make it possible to survive, not just the big guys," Stone says. "Like Starbucks and Wal-Mart and all those things that everybody hates so much. But if you make it too hard to run a small business, only the big guys are going to be able to do it."
Meanwhile, city officials are taking steps to publicize the new law, which could further cement San Francisco's reputation as a social laboratory.

it's fair
 
Workers have rights too you know.

They shouldnt have the right to take a paid sick day to tend to their "sick neighbor". Sorry but that, combined with their outragous minimum wage, is ludicrous.
 
Workers have rights too you know.

Workers aren't exploited, there is a minimum wage, labor laws to ensure safe practices. Guarunteed PAID sick days are ridiculous. So now a fry cook at McDonalds gets paid sick days?
 
I'm glad, people can't help it if they're sick.

it shouldn't come at the expense of businesses. This will force Small Businesses to raise prices - forcing people to buy from nationwide chains.

On second though, I am really missing out NOT living in SF - I mean I can make about 10 dollars an hour, 9 free days a year, get legal pot (which I could sell for profit) and I can get 100-200 bucks a month if I live on the streets instead of a small apartment. :(
 
These poor small businesses, people act like they are these cute little babies that need protection.

We're afraid to run them out of business so we keep away benifits that all workers deserve.
 
Instead of people actually showing up to work when they're not sick, and have something called honesty and integrity.
 
These poor small businesses, people act like they are these cute little babies that need protection.

We're afraid to run them out of business so we keep away benifits that all workers deserve.

You're not seeing the big picture here! There has to be balance. One that gives a slight favor to the employer (like 45/50 - 55/60). The economy is dependent on small businesses remaining in business.

Not only that, a person with a McJob doesn't deserve benefits. A person with skill deserves them.
 
Not only that, a person with a McJob doesn't deserve benefits. A person with skill deserves them.

wouldn't a person with Mcjob also deserve benefits?:huh:
all workers need them, and a person that makes the least salary seems would be the most dependent on ..uh..not losing what little he makes because he got sick.
 
wouldn't a person with Mcjob also deserve benefits?:huh:
all workers need them, and a person that makes the least salary seems would be the most dependent on ..uh..not losing what little he makes because he got sick.

The person who flips burgers and dips fries in a fryer does not deserve benefits.

The person who says "Hi, welcome to Wal-Mart!" and gives you the little smilie face sticker, does not deserve benefits.

I do not deserve benefits.

People who work in jobs that any random joe and a chimp can do. DO NOT DESERVE benefits. People should earn them.

Not only that, there is a thing called capitalism.
 
The person who flips burgers and dips fries in a fryer does not deserve benefits.

The person who says "Hi, welcome to Wal-Mart!" and gives you the little smilie face sticker, does not deserve benefits.

I do not deserve benefits.

People who work in jobs that any random joe and a chimp can do. DO NOT DESERVE benefits. People should earn them.

Not only that, there is a thing called capitalism.

Let's not let that screw with common Human decency
and just so you know, there are people that just never make it past the level of being employed at "the Wal"or Mcdonald's, it's kind of scary how quickly you dismiss their needs as if they were inferior and completely take away what dignity those jobs may have.
seriously frightening.
 
Let's not let that screw with common Human decency
and just so you know, there are people that just never make it past the level of being employed at "the Wal"or Mcdonald's, it's kind of scary how quickly you dismiss their needs as if they were inferior and completely take away what dignity those jobs may have.
seriously frightening.

If someone is 45 and still working at McDonalds, then there's something wrong with that person.

The dignity is moving up from those jobs to a better one, not making a career out of a job you get in high school
 
If someone is 45 and still working at McDonalds, then there's something wrong with that person.

The dignity is moving up from those jobs to a better one, not making a career out of a job you get in high school

no, you don't get it.
there are people that never et out of those jobs, you know that thing that parents tell you about your unlimited potential?
that's a lie.
not everyone can do anything, do you relly think that all those jobs used to be done by 15 year olds?
 
Let's not let that screw with common Human decency
and just so you know, there are people that just never make it past the level of being employed at "the Wal"or Mcdonald's, it's kind of scary how quickly you dismiss their needs as if they were inferior and completely take away what dignity those jobs may have.
seriously frightening.

There's dignity in being a Wal-Mart greeter or being a burger flipper :huh:
 

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