Scream 4!!!!! - Part 4

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True, but Jill actually did get away with it as far as the media knows. She didn't just have a plan. She carried it out. Billy and his mother had a plan but couldn't because they died before any of it could be carried out.

It was a short lived success. I mean the truth is obviously going to come out.

I think she stabbed Sid because she wanted to keep with the tradition. Using her own knife to kill her cousin is more fitting than using something so quick like a gun. She shot Trevor because she was just pissed at him and didn't want to waste her time with him. I think she wanted Sydney to die slowly.

That's fine, just make sure your victim is actually dead. She should have learned this from the Stab movies.

Like I said, she was sloppy.
 
My favorite Jill quotes:

"My friends? WHAT WORLD ARE YOU LIVING IN? I don't need friends, I need fans."

"I am NOT the girl....you cheat on."

"How do you think people become famous anymore? You don't have to achieve ANYTHING."

"...and let's face it, your ingenue days are over. (stab) Don't tell me you didn't know this day would come."

"People need to see this ****. It's not like anyone reads anymore!"

"Who are you Michael ****ing Myers?"

She had lot of great quotes.
 
You can see Williamson's stamp on the script with the Michael Myers references. He's a big Halloween fan.
 
My favorite Jill quotes:

"My friends? WHAT WORLD ARE YOU LIVING IN? I don't need friends, I need fans."

"I am NOT the girl....you cheat on."

"How do you think people become famous anymore? You don't have to achieve ANYTHING."

"...and let's face it, your ingenue days are over. (stab) Don't tell me you didn't know this day would come."

"People need to see this ****. It's not like anyone reads anymore!"

"Who are you Michael ****ing Myers?"

She had lot of great quotes.
Some of the best quotes in the series, IMO.

The quote "I don't need friends, I need FANS!" is actually true in some ways in modern society with teens. Ever see a popular kid at school? He/she would rather have the whole school's attention instead of just a group of people.
 
It was a short lived success. I mean the truth is obviously going to come out.



That's fine, just make sure your victim is actually dead. She should have learned this from the Stab movies.

Like I said, she was sloppy.

True, but as far as her movie went, she died in her own remake when the media thought she was the hero of it. Yeah, the truth is going to come out, but it doesn't really matter once the movie's over.

Sloppy and hot all at once. :awesome:
 
Another quote that can tie into real life is "People need to see this ****. It's not like anyone reads anymore!" It's such a true line. Remember that video of those 3 girls beating up that one girl? Things like that usually only appeared in newspapers or on the news 10 years ago. Now? People upload those kinds of things on the internet. Visually seeing things is what people do in modern times.
 
My favorite Jill quotes:

"My friends? WHAT WORLD ARE YOU LIVING IN? I don't need friends, I need fans."

"I am NOT the girl....you cheat on."

"How do you think people become famous anymore? You don't have to achieve ANYTHING."

"...and let's face it, your ingenue days are over. (stab) Don't tell me you didn't know this day would come."

"People need to see this ****. It's not like anyone reads anymore!"

"Who are you Michael ****ing Myers?"

She had lot of great quotes.

You can see Williamson's stamp on the script with the Michael Myers references. He's a big Halloween fan.

How could I forget these lines? Definitely Williamson. And I liked the Halloween references that came back.

Oh, and seeing it again, the end credits with the cast do follow the other ones with the moving then freeze frame images. Just a different font with a new design of red knife cut lines.
 
You can see Williamson's stamp on the script with the Michael Myers references. He's a big Halloween fan.

Yeah that entire final scene felt like it was an homage/borrowing of Halloween II where the killer comes for the survivor after the "ending" of the movie in the hospital. There, the sole surviving victim has no security and inexplicably there are no doctors or nurses on duty that night to help out. They even point that out when Gale has to run off and start yelling for a doctor when it's all over. Or when Jill says to Sidney "It was supposed to end in the house. Now, this is just getting silly."

I felt that was an homage in that scene.
 
Just came back from it, really liked it. I'm so glad they made another one :up:
 
Yeah that entire final scene felt like it was an homage/borrowing of Halloween II where the killer comes for the survivor after the "ending" of the movie in the hospital. There, the sole surviving victim has no security and inexplicably there are no doctors or nurses on duty that night to help out. They even point that out when Gale has to run off and start yelling for a doctor when it's all over. Or when Jill says to Sidney "It was supposed to end in the house. Now, this is just getting silly."

I felt that was an homage in that scene.
Agreed!
 
Not really much I'd be interested in seeing this weekend . I'm tempted to see Scream 4 another time. I love being in a theater where people collectively say "wtf" towards the end. Also when Jill shoots Trevor in the balls .. that gets a great reaction.
 
^^ Yeah, both times my theater reacted strongly to Trevor getting shot in the balls. Especially, the second time.
 
Did anyone see this: http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2011/04/2...chises-future-and-more-prescott-family-drama/

Craven on the speculation of Scream 5 and 6:

"I imagine the core characters will continue," he said of Sidney Prescott, Gale Weathers and Dewey Riley. "I suspect they'll be with us until the end, because they just are the heart and soul of the movie and especially since we tend to kill off most of the other people," he said with a hearty laugh. "They'll be with us. There will be some continuation of the drama of Sidney Prescott's family and the ghosts that haunt it."
 
^^ I was just about to post that. Found it on BLoody digusting.com. Anyway, it's good to know that the core characters will probably remain. They truly are the heart of this franchise.
 
But how will they use them for two more times?

I swear, if this goes international I'll be mad. Just where in the hell would it take place? And what would happen to Sydney and co. two more times?
 
Well the next time Hayden could be the killer. Her motivation could be the Angel of death thing. She blames Syd for bringing her all the tragedy.
 
What family does Sidney Prescott have left ? Maybe he's throwing us off again. We all believed Scream 4 would be a passing of the torch and now we're left hoping they resurrect Kirby. I'm thinking they'll do the opposite next time. Unless this happens to her six times .. the most unlucky girl in film history that I can think of.
 
It's not that surprising is it? Craven said himself in the video that they end up killing everyone off except the main trio. That's exactly what they did in Scream 4. The only new character who survived was Deputy Judy.

So who is there to pass the torch to after Scream 4?
 
I'd hope Kirby lived. They didn't follow up on her death so it would not be a stretch. Seeing her knowledge she could be the new Randy, but seeing as Randy died in PArt 2, I'd guess she'd be finished off in 5. I just can't see where they can go from here. And I agree to an above psoter, I do not want a movie outside the country, or one spanning multiple countries. Imagine if they parodied Hostel, and the big reveal that some poor town in random country was using several Ghostface killers for publicity/whatever Hostel was about, I don't completely remember. I'd hope they never went that route.
 
So I realized I'm never getting around to writing out a review for this movie, but I adored it. Was definitely refreshing to see a horror movie where you care for characters to the point that you root for them over the killers. Now let's see, the points I'd like to bring up; Excuse the randomness please.

Sid's first encounter with Ghostface was the best one I've seen with a survivor character to a killer in a sequel hands down. And not all survivors of horror movie killers need to be killed to not continue the franchise. Tommy Jarvis and Alice Johnson were never killed by Jason or Freddy and their movies continued(not gonna say that the quality was the same for them). Same goes for Laurie Strode pre-Resurrection.

Kirby, Robbie and Judy Hicks were by far my favorite new characters.
Judy honestly reminded me a bit of Maureen McCormick's character from "Return to Horror High"; a kinda bubbly weird, awkward, but still likable cop; very Scream1 Dewey-like. And I may be crazy, but for some reason I remember her name being mentioned in Scream 1 at some point, maybe as someone Tatum or another one of the friends referred to or in a role call or something, but her name just sounded so familiar to me in the Scream series.
Robbie was definitely a fave of mine, because he was a likable character, was gay(we need more gays like this in horror movies), and if anyone is still holding out their impossible hope for Kirby, I still have my hope for Robbie to be the Scream 1 Randy. :o
Honestly, I thought Kirby was gonna be the new Sid based on the film club scene in the high school, where while it was a small act, she showed Sid through I-Phone what Charlie and Robbie were talking about. And then you add in the Charlie at the window scene, and it just shows more. I'm kinda finding it funny that so many here hated that she was part of this movie, yet now she is clearly one of the fan favorite characters of the new blood. I loved the mixture of Kirby's death scene between Scream 1 and Kristen Bell's kill in the opening. Referencing the first movie while still keeping it in tune with this 4th one.
I would have honestly liked to have seen more of Trevor and Kate.
I honestly thought at first Kate may have been a killer with her daughter Jill, but once she was killed, she was obviously out of the running. With Trevor, I kinda got that he seemed kind of like the dumb jock, but he looked to have a bit more to him and I honestly didn't understand what he did to Jill before she took care of him with a gun.
Olivia was an alright character, clearly the first of the friends to die as no one knew who the hell the actress was. Rebecca was a funny character as well, but she was clearly no Gale.

Jill was a great Ghostface and sadly all too true motivation for today's generation. All these complaints about height and such are ridiculous and don't deserve any attention. I tried to avoid spoilers as to who the killers were, but luckily I heard spoilers from other places as well with different killers, so it wasn't too spoilerific for me, I did figure Jill out early though. I wasn't sure about Charlie only because it was too obvious.

For the negatives;
Anthony Anderson's Bruce Willis line dying just didn't belong, at all. Wasn't funny in anyway; what would have been an honestly gruesome death, became stupid because of that line. I know a lot have complained it was dragged out after a stabbing to the head, to that I say, horror movie wounds tend to be not-realistic so this one wasn't any different, it's not like he just casually left the car with a level headed mind, I was fine with him trying to hit Ghostface and failing, only to fall to his death.
Adam Brody was awesome as victim fodder, I was happy he wasn't used much.
Dewey was just about useless and unnecessarily *****ey to Gale for no reason once the murders started. I also felt Gale was a bit underused honestly.
Aimee Teegarden was horrible as usual, so it was awesome seeing her die.
Considering how many killings have happened in Woodsboro, their hospital has the worst staff ever. I mean so did the original Halloween 2, but you at least saw Michael kill all of them.


Unlike a good amount of people, I didn't find the self-mutilation or the hospital finale to be cartoonish silly or dragged out.

As for future movies, I'll say make Randy's sister and Sidney's dad the killers; even if it's for a Stab movie. If not, kill them off already. :oldrazz:

And where the f*** was Detective Kincaid(Dempsey)?! Or at least a mention of him? :cmad:

I'm sure there's more I haven't referred to, but yea, that's all I got for now.
 
I got it.

Sidney's father has remarried. She's in it only to get to Sid. She's a super psychotic fan.

or

Jill's father.

or

Bob Weinstein and Ehren Kruger are the killers. And secret lovers for good measure.
 
So I realized I'm never getting around to writing out a review for this movie, but I adored it. Was definitely refreshing to see a horror movie where you care for characters to the point that you root for them over the killers. Now let's see, the points I'd like to bring up; Excuse the randomness please.

Sid's first encounter with Ghostface was the best one I've seen with a survivor character to a killer in a sequel hands down. And not all survivors of horror movie killers need to be killed to not continue the franchise. Tommy Jarvis and Alice Johnson were never killed by Jason or Freddy and their movies continued(not gonna say that the quality was the same for them). Same goes for Laurie Strode pre-Resurrection.

Kirby, Robbie and Judy Hicks were by far my favorite new characters.
Judy honestly reminded me a bit of Maureen McCormick's character from "Return to Horror High"; a kinda bubbly weird, awkward, but still likable cop; very Scream1 Dewey-like. And I may be crazy, but for some reason I remember her name being mentioned in Scream 1 at some point, maybe as someone Tatum or another one of the friends referred to or in a role call or something, but her name just sounded so familiar to me in the Scream series.
Robbie was definitely a fave of mine, because he was a likable character, was gay(we need more gays like this in horror movies), and if anyone is still holding out their impossible hope for Kirby, I still have my hope for Robbie to be the Scream 1 Randy. :o
Honestly, I thought Kirby was gonna be the new Sid based on the film club scene in the high school, where while it was a small act, she showed Sid through I-Phone what Charlie and Robbie were talking about. And then you add in the Charlie at the window scene, and it just shows more. I'm kinda finding it funny that so many here hated that she was part of this movie, yet now she is clearly one of the fan favorite characters of the new blood. I loved the mixture of Kirby's death scene between Scream 1 and Kristen Bell's kill in the opening. Referencing the first movie while still keeping it in tune with this 4th one.
I would have honestly liked to have seen more of Trevor and Kate.
I honestly thought at first Kate may have been a killer with her daughter Jill, but once she was killed, she was obviously out of the running. With Trevor, I kinda got that he seemed kind of like the dumb jock, but he looked to have a bit more to him and I honestly didn't understand what he did to Jill before she took care of him with a gun.
Olivia was an alright character, clearly the first of the friends to die as no one knew who the hell the actress was. Rebecca was a funny character as well, but she was clearly no Gale.

Jill was a great Ghostface and sadlyl with different killers, so it wasn't too spoilerific for me, I did figure Jill out early though. I wasn't sure about Charlie only because it was too obvious. all too true motivation for today's generation. All these complaints about height and such are ridiculous and don't deserve any attention. I tried to avoid spoilers as to who the killers were, but luckily I heard spoilers from other places as wel

For the negatives;
Anthony Anderson's Bruce Willis line dying just didn't belong, at all. Wasn't funny in anyway; what would have been an honestly gruesome death, became stupid because of that line. I know a lot have complained it was dragged out after a stabbing to the head, to that I say, horror movie wounds tend to be not-realistic so this one wasn't any different, it's not like he just casually left the car with a level headed mind, I was fine with him trying to hit Ghostface and failing, only to fall to his death.
Adam Brody was awesome as victim fodder, I was happy he wasn't used much.
Dewey was just about useless and unnecessarily *****ey to Gale for no reason once the murders started. I also felt Gale was a bit underused honestly.
Aimee Teegarden was horrible as usual, so it was awesome seeing her die.
Considering how many killings have happened in Woodsboro, their hospital has the worst staff ever. I mean so did the original Halloween 2, but you at least saw Michael kill all of them.


Unlike a good amount of people, I didn't find the self-mutilation or the hospital finale to be cartoonish silly or dragged out.

As for future movies, I'll say make Randy's sister and Sidney's dad the killers; even if it's for a Stab movie. If not, kill them off already. :oldrazz:

And where the f*** was Detective Kincaid(Dempsey)?! Or at least a mention of him? :cmad:

I'm sure there's more I haven't referred to, but yea, that's all I got for now.

Glad you enjoyed it. I thought it was odd Kincaid, Randy's Sister , and Sid's dad weren't mentioned. There might be something in the deleted scenes about the father's passing.

As for Jill [BLACKOUT]shooting[/BLACKOUT] Trevor ... he was a cheater and was with another girl at Stabathon.
 
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