Scream 5 in Development

[BatLobster]

Scream 6 needs one or more of these to change it up;

- two killers acting independently

- two Ghostfaces killing at once [on screen]

- one Ghostface getting killed/revealed in Act I/II, while the partner continues on

A Ghostface surviving into the next film is another possibility.

I've been thinking a lot about it (lol) and I really hope they just go ahead and call the next one Scream 6. I think trying to add another word to it ala "Halloween Kills" is going to result in something really cringey.

The studio fear that people are less likely to see something with a number doesn't hold a ton of water for me after a successful franchise relaunch. We're in a binge watching age, if anything I think it just drives interest in the series and makes newcomers want to go back and watch/rewatch the other ones- which in theory should just make Paramount more money (sidenote- they need to get on 4k versions of 2-4). They should wear the number as a badge of honor that the franchise has this unbroken and celebrated legacy.

 

[antsman41]

Why two killers? Why not three?

Sure… I probably should have simply said “multiple” ha.

 

[The Shape]

- Winter setting would be very cool for a Scream film. I also don't think every film should be set in Woodsboro. Mix it up like the original trilogy did.

- Also want to see two Ghostfaces on screen at once (beyond the cheesy fakeout in Scream 4)

- A third killer, either linked to the main killers or not

Spoiler

I was honestly expecting and waiting for some hint of this in the new movie, that there was a third killer or some kind of other accomplice who made it out alive.

- I don't think we really need Sidney or Gale anymore, beyond maybe a cameo scene of some kind.

- A police detective or FBI agent tracking down Ghostface throughout the film, along with our main characters. A Dr. Loomis type.

 

[TheVileOne]

Frankly, I don't get why you have to keep making more?

 

[The Shape]

Frankly, I don't get why you have to keep making more?

Sorry, but that’s kind of a ridiculous question or statement, especially from you.

Why make any more movies in any series? Why make any movie at all? Money, strong performance of current film, the films are very inexpensive to produce, new generation of fans, existing fan base, more stories to tell, more things that can be explored, etc. Why shouldn’t they make another? That’s a harder questions to answer other than saying “They’ve run out of ideas” or “because it will suck”.

You know another Scream movie will be made at some point, if not soon. Just as Halloween movies will continue to be produced along with countless other franchise examples. I don’t see the harm in discussing future film possibilities?

 

[BatLobster]

This is a nice Q&A. Here Williamson says he feels excited for the rebirth of the franchise and wants to see it go on for a long time. Music to my ears!

Frankly, I don't get why you have to keep making more?

Dude...nobody is forcing you to watch them. These movies are fun, entertaining as hell and the bring me and a lot of people joy. If you actively are against more Scream movies, then vote with your wallet next time. The rest of us will continue being fans of the franchise.

 

[TheVileOne]

This is a nice Q&A. Here Williamson says he feels excited for the rebirth of the franchise and wants to see it go on for a long time. Music to my ears!



Dude...nobody is forcing you to watch them. These movies are fun, entertaining as hell and the bring me and a lot of people joy. If you actively are against more Scream movies, then vote with your wallet next time. The rest of us will continue being fans of the franchise.

I will do as I please.

Sorry, but that’s kind of a ridiculous question or statement, especially from you.

Why make any more movies in any series? Why make any movie at all? Money, strong performance of current film, the films are very inexpensive to produce, new generation of fans, existing fan base, more stories to tell, more things that can be explored, etc. Why shouldn’t they make another? That’s a harder questions to answer other than saying “They’ve run out of ideas” or “because it will suck”.

You know another Scream movie will be made at some point, if not soon. Just as Halloween movies will continue to be produced along with countless other franchise examples. I don’t see the harm in discussing future film possibilities?

I'm not sure this is a good thing. Halloween Kills was the worst Halloween sequel I've ever seen.

 

[BatLobster]

I will do as I please.

And so will Spyglass Media Group, Paramount, Radio Silence and co. There's your initial question answered.

I'm not sure this is a good thing. Halloween Kills was the worst Halloween sequel I've ever seen.

It's true that the longer a franchise runs, the more you're going to risk making a bad sequel.

But my point is, you don't even seem like a big fan of the franchise, so I don't get what your stake is in this discussion. Before you said that you think the franchise should've ended with 3. Well, 4 and 5 ranks above 3 on the vast majority of fan rankings. So we're feeling energized about it now. Speaking as a fan, I am encouraged by this creative team and want them to capitalize on the momentum they have now. As opposed to...you know, waiting another decade until inevitably someone else try to cash in on it. Scream 4 was supposed to launch a new trilogy but the audience wasn't there for it. This time it looks like the audience is there. We're just going to have to see where it goes.

Complaining about the mere idea of another film now does nothing but give someone the ability to say "Aha! I was right, they shouldn't have made another one!" if the next film happens to suck. This is something you could literally say about any franchise. Why should the MCU make another film? Haven't we seen enough of those at this point?

 

[TheVileOne]

And so will Spyglass Media Group, Paramount, Radio Silence and co. There's your initial question answered.

I just found the new film to be very formulaic and a rehash of the fourth movie. How many times can you keep doing Woodsboro Ghostface killings?

 

[The Shape]

I just found the new film to be very formulaic and a rehash of the fourth movie. How many times can you keep doing Woodsboro Ghostface killings?

That’s kind of the point, which it seems like some people often miss.

Also, Scream 2 (the best sequel) and 3 weren’t set in Woodsboro. There’s no reason the next film has to be, which is what I was saying before. There are many different directions the franchise can go from here.

 

[TheVileOne]

That’s kind of the point, which it seems like some people often miss.

Also, Scream 2 (the best sequel) and 3 weren’t set in Woodsboro. There’s no reason the next film has to be, which is what I was saying before. There are many different directions the franchise can go from here.

That's why I prefer the initial two sequels, and it's been diminishing returns since then.

 

[BatLobster]

I just found the new film to be very formulaic and a rehash of the fourth movie. How many times can you keep doing Woodsboro Ghostface killings?

I hope to see the next film get out of Woodsboro after back to back films there, or do something big to switch it up. This film was an homage IMO, and it was necessary because this new creative team needed to pay respect to Wes and 'earn' the franchise. I also think the franchise's roots are always going to be in Woodsboro, so you needed to plant seeds there for this generation of characters.

End of the day, the Scream franchise is fun because you get fun new characters and a new who dunnit murder mystery each time. On top of being well-executed slasher films (for the most part). On that merit alone, it has more to offer in terms of entertainment than the Halloween franchise IMO. It's why I'm a big fan of Scream over other slasher franchises.

 

[The Shape]

I hope to see the next film get out of Woodsboro after back to back films there, or do something big to switch it up. This film was an homage IMO, and it was necessary because this new creative team needed to pay respect to Wes and 'earn' the franchise. I also think the franchise's roots are always going to be in Woodsboro, so you needed to plant seeds there for this generation of the franchise.

End of the day, the Scream franchise is fun because you get new characters and a new who dunnit murder mystery each time. On top of being well-executed slasher films (for the most part). On that merit alone, it has more to offer in terms of entertainment than the Halloween franchise IMO. It's why I'm a big fan of Scream over other slasher franchises.

Yes. I’m a hardcore Halloween/Michael Myers fan (see username) through good films and bad but there is less new ground to tread in that franchise. Scream offers a different kind of entertainment value while still being a slasher series at the end of the day.

 

[TheVileOne]

I hope to see the next film get out of Woodsboro after back to back films there, or do something big to switch it up. This film was an homage IMO, and it was necessary because this new creative team needed to pay respect to Wes and 'earn' the franchise. I also think the franchise's roots are always going to be in Woodsboro, so you needed to plant seeds there for this generation of characters.

End of the day, the Scream franchise is fun because you get fun new characters and a new who dunnit murder mystery each time. On top of being well-executed slasher films (for the most part). On that merit alone, it has more to offer in terms of entertainment than the Halloween franchise IMO. It's why I'm a big fan of Scream over other slasher franchises.

I like and respect your points BatLobster.

 

[BatLobster]

Yes. I’m a hardcore Halloween/Michael Myers fan (see username) through good films and bad but there is less new ground to tread in that franchise. Scream offers a different kind of entertainment value while still being a slasher series at the end of the day.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not dumping on Halloween, it has its place and I enjoy those films- and obviously have a big respect for Carpenter's original. But there is something inherent in Scream that just makes for a well-rounded entertainment package. In a world where there are 13 Halloween films and still only 5 Scream films, I don't think we're at a place where we've squeezed every last bit of juice out of it yet. As evidenced here, there are plenty of fan theories and concepts that have yet to be tapped into. I'm sure you agree-- just sayin'.

I like and respect your points BatLobster.

Cool. I didn't mean to jump on you haha. I just really love the series, and after a decade of thinking it was over, it's been exciting for me to be able to anticipate a new one and for me, the payoff was worth it. If they keep making them and it goes off the rails, then I'll deal with it, but right now I'm optimistic that we have a good creative team in place and I'm interested to see what further ideas they have. Especially because they have Kevin Williamson right there to bounce all their ideas off of this time.

 

[TheVileOne]

Cool. I didn't mean to jump on you haha. I just really love the series, and after a decade of thinking it was over, it's been exciting for me to be able to anticipate a new one and for me it paid off. If they keep making them and it goes off the rails, then I'll address that when it comes, but right now I'm optimistic that we have a good creative team in place and I'm interested to see what further ideas they have. Especially because they have Kevin Williamson right there to bounce all their ideas off of this time.

No I don't think you did. I think you made good well thought out points.

 

[antsman41]

- Winter setting would be very cool for a Scream film. I also don't think every film should be set in Woodsboro. Mix it up like the original trilogy did.

- Also want to see two Ghostfaces on screen at once (beyond the cheesy fakeout in Scream 4)

- A third killer, either linked to the main killers or not

Spoiler

I was honestly expecting and waiting for some hint of this in the new movie, that there was a third killer or some kind of other accomplice who made it out alive.

- I don't think we really need Sidney or Gale anymore, beyond maybe a cameo scene of some kind.

- A police detective or FBI agent tracking down Ghostface throughout the film, along with our main characters. A Dr. Loomis type.

I would have loved Jill getting away with it… og trio die and then the 5th film being Jill the protagonist and killer, with her plan working and then having a downfall.

Instead of it being all wrapped up in Act 4, and I really like this new one.

 

[antsman41]

That’s kind of the point, which it seems like some people often miss.

Also, Scream 2 (the best sequel) and 3 weren’t set in Woodsboro. There’s no reason the next film has to be, which is what I was saying before. There are many different directions the franchise can go from here.

There’s always a good reason to kill your girlfriend. -Randy

 

[KaijuDude1992]

I've had some serious time to process my thoughts on this movie because my initial impression after my first viewing of this was not positive in the least and that sucks because I really wanted to like it.

I really dug the opening sequence, but as soon as that big reveal happens early on, I was immediately taken out of the movie and unfortunately, I just couldn't become invested in it afterwards.

It also doesn't help that I didn't care for the majority of the new characters introduced outside of Jenny Ortega and Jasmin Savoy Brown who I wish either one was the lead instead of Melissa Barrera.

I liked her in Vida and she's very easy on the eyes, but I didn't think she was good here as the lead and at the end of the day I just didn't end up caring much about the Sam character at all.

I don't know maybe its just me considering how much praise this has been getting but I just wasn't impressed by this movie on any level even the kills which just got repetitive after a while.

Much like Matrix: Resurrections which also heavily disliked I just thought this was kind of a missed opportunity considering so much time has passed since the last movie.

I mean there is so much crazy cool stuff they can do with the Ghostface character and you guys have already mentioned some really cool ideas that I would have preferred over the same rinse and repeat stuff we got here.

Also, the BIG death scene really rubbed me the wrong way because of how idiotic it was IMO.

 

[Closerframe]

I’m okay with them taking another break given the whole purpose of Scream is to give a commentary on modern horror. What would the killers’ motivation be if they were to release a new film in 2-3 years? And what horror movies are the characters gonna make fun of, more A24 stuff?

With that said, I’m okay with them following Sam and Tara somewhere else besides Woodsboro given the last two movies have been set there, but I don’t want Ghostface in the snow unless it’s just the opening. Also, I’m okay with one Ghostface dying in the first or second act, but I don’t want two separate killers who just happen to be in the same town at the same time.

 

[BatLobster]

I mean if you look at the original Scream trilogy, the first film is basically deconstructing the 80s slasher. That remained the theme throughout the first 3, only it kind of broadened to looking at sequels and trilogies in general. Then the 4th film honed in on the horror remake/reboot trend of the mid 00s.

This film obviously touched on the requel, the state of fandom, with a few little nods to "elevated horror". I think those are conversations you can keep going with the next couple of films. They will hopefully have the full new "requel" Halloween trilogy to look at it when Halloween Ends comes out and incorporate that into the commentary.

And for instance,

Spoiler

do Richie and Amber get the STAB requel they were looking for? It's always fun to explore that stuff.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Maybe the next can take place in the corporate world where they're trying to milk Stab and homogenize it. Have it bought out by some Amazon, Netflix Or Disney-esque company in the wake of Stab 8. Maybe they want to make it into a prestige TV show on Paramount Plus or something since "movies are dead." You can really skewer that world. It's be interesting to commentate on the relationship between TV and movies now since TV is considered the new movies and people's relationship with movies in this era of streaming.

That could really fit into the mystery structure where this large company is eating up competition and even taking over our lives. Maybe the killer is some victim of all the expansion and getting revenge on these corporate people using Ghostface against them.

 

[BatLobster]

Maybe the next can take place in the corporate world where they're trying to milk Stab and homogenize it. Have it bought out by some Amazon, Netflix Or Disney-esque company in the wake of Stab 8. Maybe they want to make it into a prestige TV show on Paramount Plus or something since "movies are dead." You can really skewer that world. It's be interesting to commentate on the relationship between TV and movies now since TV is considered the new movies and people's relationship with movies in this era of streaming.

That could really fit into the mystery structure where this large company is eating up competition and even taking over our lives. Maybe the killer is some victim of all the expansion and getting revenge on these corporate people using Ghostface against them.

Ooo, the rights to Stab being bought out by another company would also be mirror the actual reality of the situation.

 

[The Shape]

Billy Loomis in Scream: "It's like Jodie Foster in "The Silence of the Lambs" when she keeps having flashbacks of her dead father."

 

[samsnee]

What makes this movies series different is also what makes it challenging to keep fresh. There is no supernatural element. Ghostface isn’t the same person every movie. But you can’t do copycat killers forever. So not sure where they go with the next one.