Civil War Sharon carter A.K.A. Agent 13 - Part 3

[DarknessOfDeath]

Sorry, I had assumed you had seen the movie.

Part of the plot of Buckaroo Banzai is.....Buckaroo's wife (Penny Priddy) has been killed several years ago....as the current story is progressing, he runs into a woman that looks just like her (Peggy) and finds out she is her twin that was put up for adoption as a baby....so she and her sister never knew they were twins.....and Buckaroo falls in love with her on the adventure they are on.

I see... Well in my version, both women who are twins know each other cause they grew up together and they have a strong connection to their father and little brother as oppose to their older brother and mother. The twins are very close...they kinda seem to have some sort of ESP thing going on...and then Nathan enters the picture down the road where he's a hit man...well he grew up as one. It's not until he meets Adrianne, he falls for her and renounces his life as a hit man so he can start fresh. Thing is, he does know she has a sister but doesn't know she has a twin. So when he meets Rebecca (who is uncover as a stripper) in a club, he's surprised. He thinks its his dead girlfriend but then he notices something a little different about her. So he goes along with what she has in mind. I am saying word does get around to the point Rebecca manages to track Nathan down cause she thinks he killed her sister...and it gets a little bit complicated...cause there's going to be some connections here and there. I don't want to give too much away...but yeah, it's going well so far. 18 pages so far.

 

[MarvelMayhem]

Is there really an article or interview that talks about the Russos not liking the Sharon character? Mean they did literally cut her into CW with some serious editing of a story to give her screen time when there were frankly better ways to weave an already overcrowded storyline. I think that actually shows they liked the character and wanted her in it. For me the Sharon scenes were unneeded, I liked when she turned on the intercom- that was her best scene.

 

[tomatoes]

Is there really an article or interview that talks about the Russos not liking the Sharon character? Mean they did literally cut her into CW with some serious editing of a story to give her screen time when there were frankly better ways to weave an already overcrowded storyline. I think that actually shows they liked the character and wanted her in it. For me the Sharon scenes were unneeded, I liked when she turned on the intercom- that was her best scene.

I dont think the russos hate her, just not invested into her character. Her inclusion in CW can be argued as being a plot device like zemo but im just glad they gave her something to do. She gives off the feeling that 'hey i know my **** around here', which i found really cool

 

[BoredGuy]

I liked Sharon in the film
Her Eulogy could've been better, but I'm glad she got to give Cap's "No, you move" speech
And I liked her little bit of action, it was great that she saved Tony's ass

and that Bucky and Falcon look, c'mon

 

[Tg11]

Yeah it is obvious we will see Sharon again especially now that Steve dropped his shield

 

[Voltron]

Oh dear.

Is This the One Flaw in the Otherwise Great Captain America: Civil War? You can tell this person is a Stucky Tumblrite. Bucky was a kid side-kick of Cap's in the comics so it'll seem pedo-ish to me if they got together.


Captain America’s ‘heterosexual virility’ lamented by Vanity Fair The comments are t:.


Captain America: Civil War isn't romantic in the places it thinks it is This "writer" is definitely a Tumblrite. Oh my CW crowd eeuuggghhed at the kiss so therefore everyone hates Sharon with Steve like me . Well I can only speak for my CW crowd and I heard some people enjoyed it, and some people had no reaction.

Really wish they gave Sharon more development and screen time (said for the 99th time).

 

[Voltron]

Yeah it is obvious we will see Sharon again especially now that Steve dropped his shield

I wish, but unfortunately no it's not. Sharon is probably going to be Maria Hill'd.

 

[miranstarr]

Happy birthday to the very lovely Emily VanCamp!

 

[CoolCadaver49]

Oh dear.

Is This the One Flaw in the Otherwise Great Captain America: Civil War? You can tell this person is a Stucky Tumblrite. Bucky was a kid side-kick of Cap's in the comics so it'll seem pedo-ish to me if they got together.


Captain America’s ‘heterosexual virility’ lamented by Vanity Fair The comments are t:.


Captain America: Civil War isn't romantic in the places it thinks it is This "writer" is definitely a Tumblrite. Oh my CW crowd eeuuggghhed at the kiss so therefore everyone hates Sharon with Steve like me . Well I can only speak for my CW crowd and I heard some people enjoyed it, and some people had no reaction.

Really wish they gave Sharon more development and screen time (said for the 99th time).

Not everyone likes Sharon Carter as much as you. That doesn't make their opinions invalid. Cap had a case of the "notgays" in this movie. He spends the whole movie trying to protect his male best friend, that's not nearly manly enough!! Shoehorning in a romance with Sharon was the studio's attempt at solving a problem that doesn't exist. Sharon Carter is the Rachel Dawes of the Cap trilogy, though thank god she wasn't given as much screentime.

Your posts seem like you have a really hard time separating the comics from the films. Speaking as someone who has only watched the movies, Sharon is just boring and forgettable. Sure, you could make her character interesting (you can technically make any character interesting) but I'd rather just have more time with the characters we already know and like. Idk, maybe if they had a more interesting actress, with a bit more presence.

 

[MbJ]

Bucky was a kid side-kick of Cap's in the comics so it'll seem pedo-ish to me if they got together.

That seems rather hilarious to accuse the ship of having pedophiliac overtones when most of the people who walked out of the movie hating Sharon did so because they found Steve dating his girlfriend's niece to be creepy.

 

[ScarlettW]

^^ In the MCU they have almost the same age. Again, comics is different from the MCU.

The people in my movie theater were silent at the time of the kiss, but laughed a lot with the reaction of Bucky and Sam.

 

[Voltron]

Not everyone likes Sharon Carter as much as you. That doesn't make their opinions invalid. Cap had a case of the "notgays" in this movie. He spends the whole movie trying to protect his male best friend, that's not nearly manly enough!! Shoehorning in a romance with Sharon was the studio's attempt at solving a problem that doesn't exist. Sharon Carter is the Rachel Dawes of the Cap trilogy, though thank god she wasn't given as much screentime.

Your posts seem like you have a really hard time separating the comics from the films. Speaking as someone who has only watched the movies, Sharon is just boring and forgettable. Sure, you could make her character interesting (you can technically make any character interesting) but I'd rather just have more time with the characters we already know and like. Idk, maybe if they had a more interesting actress, with a bit more presence.

And not everyone finds Sharon boring and forgettable as you. Interesting on how you manage to remember her so you can post comments on her thread. The romance was the studio's attempt to adapt Staron from the comics and to continue the romance thread planted in TWS. I do recall Cap asking Sharon out for coffee.

D'uh not everyone likes Sharon as much as me, but then again not everyone dislikes her like you do. I merely commenting that that VF and Vox articles is very Tumblr Stucky-lite.

 

[MadVillainy]

Honestly Vision-Scarlett Witch is more creepy to me (I know it's comic accurate but seeing it in the MCU icks me out)

 

[MarvelMayhem]

Honestly Vision-Scarlett Witch is more creepy to me (I know it's comic accurate but seeing it in the MCU icks me out)

After the second viewing (Vision and Wanda) it came off a bit less creepy but I hear you. But at the same time, Paul and Elizabeth had a decent rapport. As far as the KISS is concerned, thought it was terrible after my second viewing. It looked awkward and it made me uncomfortable. I think EVC and Evans have no chemistry together. It kind of sucks because I know fans really love them together but I think they should find a new Sharon because there is nothing there between the 2. Marvel really has had just a poor ability to pair people with good chemistry.

IF mCU ever goes down the road of Black Widow and Winter Soldier I pray that Johansson and Stan have a bit of spark. Otherwise just let there be NO romance and everyone can just be friends forever.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

Is there really an article or interview that talks about the Russos not liking the Sharon character?

Do you expect there to be in any case?

Mean they did literally cut her into CW with some serious editing of a story to give her screen time when there were frankly better ways to weave an already overcrowded storyline. I think that actually shows they liked the character and wanted her in it. For me the Sharon scenes were unneeded, I liked when she turned on the intercom- that was her best scene.

Zack Snyder must love Jimmy Olsen, then.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

I think I read that the Russos are done with Cap movies. I don't like the idea of a Cap film directed by another if not for them.

The Russos are good directors but they lack a certain quality that I like to see in a director of a Cap film. Namely, liking Cap's mythos.

 

[MarvelMayhem]

Do you expect there to be in any case?

There seems to be so much THIS FACT that I just kind of assumed there had to be some secret journal that was printed online somewhere.

Zack Snyder must love Jimmy Olsen, then.

Can go with this..Jimmy has some real down-home charm and charisma. and I am almost certain Jimmy could have brought more heat to a kiss with Chris Evans than EVC did.

seriously I can understand SC fans upset, I would be upset if she was my favorite and I do realize she is extremely important to Captain America in cannon and I think she will most likely be his end game or whatever you want to call it. I just don't think Sharon Carter is important in the overall work of MCU. But that could change drastically in coming years. Personally I would love to see a different Sharon though for the future. And I absolutely realize I am in the minority not the majority on this one.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

I just don't think Sharon Carter is important in the overall work of MCU.

She doesn't need to be.

 

[Rote]

Can go with this..Jimmy has some real down-home charm and charisma. and I am almost certain Jimmy could have brought more heat to a kiss with Chris Evans than EVC did.

seriously I can understand SC fans upset, I would be upset if she was my favorite and I do realize she is extremely important to Captain America in cannon and I think she will most likely be his end game or whatever you want to call it. I just don't think Sharon Carter is important in the overall work of MCU. But that could change drastically in coming years. Personally I would love to see a different Sharon though for the future. And I absolutely realize I am in the minority not the majority on this one.

Only on this forum. I'm seeing social media, critics and mainstream news bashing on Staron. Forbes literally said, that Sharon was there just to dethrone Stucky's shippers. Heck, even Superhero Feed hates it, read today from them on twitter. Just go and see it.

Let's put the whole creepy aspect of it aside, Steve and Sharon still made no sense. No chemistry, just forced. Like making two dolls kiss.

Marvel is pretty good about listening to fan reaction. If people don't accept it (which they're not), chances are it will just quietly go away.

As for the Russos. I think they are much more invested in Steve and Bucky, because they admitted, that they see and know very well, how much people love them. It's too bad that they were forced to make this giant "NO HOMO" flag.

It's not just Tumbler. I heard, that even Mark Millar and Brubaker said something about loving Stucky.

 

[MarvelMayhem]

She doesn't need to be.

I have no idea then why you seem to be upset regarding the underuse of the character? Captain America films fall within the MCU, the broader spectrum, therefor if she does not need to be a bigger player in the MCU then she does not need to be a bigger player in Cap films. MCU interweaves all of their films, at least since Iron MAN essentially and that seems the route they are going so if a character is important enough to get screen time in 1 film they should be allowed screen time in multiple MCU films.

For me I have no problem for more Sharon time throughout MCU if they expanded her character to me more than Peggys niece. I would though rather have maybe a different Sharon. But then again I never was all that sold on SJ as Black Widow until she got a few films under her belt. Now since CW I can't think of another actress who at this time I would rather see. But Camp and Evans need to work on some serious screen time chemistry. They both are responsible for not selling the kiss.

 

[MarvelMayhem]

Only on this forum. I'm seeing social media, critics and mainstream news bashing on Staron. Forbes literally said, that Sharon was there just to dethrone Stucky's shippers. Hell, even Superhero Feed hates it, read today from them on twitter. Just go and see it.
Marvel is pretty good about listening to fan reaction. If people don't accept it (which they're not), chances are it will just quietly go away.

As for the Russos. I think they are much more invested in Steve and Bucky, because they admitted, that they see and know very well, how much people love them. It's too bad that they were forced to make this giant "NO HOMO" flag.

I think maybe fans were like we just buried Peggy and now you are making out with her relative??
Maybe the new Captain Marvel will get Steve' blood pumping down the road?
I am not a Stucky believer myself, but I thought EVC lacked charisma. The kiss felt really awful. I could care less at this point for any romance in the series. IF i get a vote for a couple I vote Nat and Bucky.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

I have no idea then why you seem to be upset regarding the underuse of the character? Captain America films fall within the MCU, the broader spectrum, therefor if she does not need to be a bigger player in the MCU then she does not need to be a bigger player in Cap films. MCU interweaves all of their films, at least since Iron MAN essentially and that seems the route they are going so if a character is important enough to get screen time in 1 film they should be allowed screen time in multiple MCU films.

What importance did Pepper have outside of the IM films?

 

[Sevprince]

I just thought it was wrong to have Sharon and Steve romantically bond over Peggy and in her funeral. It upped the icky factor. The kiss was totally misplaced. Also agree actors don't have chemistry.

 

[Rote]

I think maybe fans were like we just buried Peggy and now you are making out with her relative??

Yes, that was AWFUL. Steve is not that kind of guy, who kisses barely known girls. He didn't call her after TWS, but suddenly right after the funeral he wants to kiss her. And after the kiss Sharon just VANISHES from the movie and evidently from Steve's awareness. Compare it with how they did Wanda/Vision. The Russos couldn't care less about Staron. They didn't even get a bit of actual romance. It was just a kiss and nothing more.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

LMAO most of Vision and Wanda's relationship was him keeping her from leaving the house.

Now that's healthy. Oh, well done.