Should Batman have been able to beat Captain America?

[Dr. Fate]

Yes or no?

 

[slipalong]

yes.

every time.

 

[ElectroFlare]

No, I don't believe so. Batman carries around a lot more gear, which would impare his martial arts to a higher degree then Cap's shield and chainmail.

Also to the fact that Cap has more expierence in hand to hand combat, even though Batman knows more styles.

And one more fact-Cap doesn't fatigue as easily as normal humans.

 

[slipalong]

Neither does Batman.

F**K fighting styles or prep time. Batman is just prepared to fight dirty.

 

[Varient]

To be fair:

I believe whoever gets first licks,...

Even though in a one on one dust up with both starting prepared from a cold stat,.. Captain America BETTER beat Batman.

 

[slipalong]

Nah, I just think Bats would manage it every time.

 

[overboard]

aptain America would try to follow the rules.And even though his strength and speed is better,Batman would do whatever it would take to win.In the end it would depend on what they were fighting for

 

[Dr.Fear]

mmm yeah ill go wih bats.cao and bats are the perfwect human specimens, except cap cant age, right? i dunno i heard he was frozen during WW2 and they reveived him and he didnt even age, so can he age now or what?

 

[ElectroFlare]

Neither does Batman.

Actually, yes, Batman does fatigue at the normal human rate of an incredible athlete...unless DC has turned him in a metahuman now...

 

[slipalong]

But the super soldier serum, only puts Cap at peak human effiency. Ergo, they're pretty evenly matched and would tire at a similar rate.

Bats is more skilled at fighting methods. Cap has more experience. Bats fights dirty. Cap doesn't.

Bat's would take it.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Heh. ALL of Captain America's Foes fight dirty, so "dirty fighting" doesn't nescessarily guarantee anything for Batman.

Cap is stronger, faster, has quicker reflexes, and FAR superior endurance. And he's certainly on par with Batman skill-wise.

Cap's even a better strategist, as evidenced with Cap taking command of both the Avengers AND JLA in that recent cross-over.

I think Cap has an excellent chance of winning any and all encounters with the Dark Knight.

 

[slipalong]

Excellent chance yes. As I said, they're evenl;y matched, but I think that bats is better skilled in most areas to take the victory.

 

[kgcarini]

Excellent chance yes. As I said, they're evenl;y matched, but I think that bats is better skilled in most areas to take the victory.

They are in no way evenly matched. The supersoilder serum gives him "super" powers my friend. No way does Batman have a chance with Captain America and if you want to get technical Batman would never win under ANY circumstances against Ultimate Captain America no matter the prep time Batman took. Thats the way the cookie crumble!

 

[slipalong]

Not according to Marvel. It puts him at peak physical ability. But human nevertheless. Something that Batman has reached through his training.

Oh, and we're not talking about Ult. versions of anyone. It's already been established that Ult. Cap is far stronger than his 616 counterpart while Ult. Hulk is far weaker.

 

[roach]

I never understood how the claim that Bats fights dirty so that's how he'd beat Cap. My money is on Cap. Captain America through scientific means has come so close to being a superhuman without being superhuman. Cap is THE pinnacle of human perfection. Now Bats trained his body hard and took hie body to be as perfect as he could be with his body. No matter how much exercize you do you'll never become THE pinnacle of human perfection. No human could be faster or stronger than Cap.To me all the stunts Neo could do in the first Matrix movie are things Cap should be able to do. And while everyone latches onto the "Preptime" theory of Bats I like to think that Cap is the best at "battlefield adjustments". Meaning that Cap has so mastered the art of tactics that he can make split second decisions during a fight. Hard to prepare to fight someone who can change tactics as fast as you can breathe. That's just my take

 

[slipalong]

I forgot that this was on the Marvel boards...

I just think that Bats is in a better position to win any confrontation with Cap.

Pure and simple.

 

[kgcarini]

I forgot that this was on the Marvel boards... QUOTE]


lol

 

[slipalong]

I like Cap, but I thought with Bats using the darkness to camouflage him for his attacks, that it was one of the only fights that went how it should in the whole Marvel vs DC debacle.

 

[roach]

Captain America is one half step away from being superhuman...I dont see Bats that close. I dont see in any shape or form how Batman could take any fight.

 

[slipalong]

But that's it. Cap is still only human. Cap is a great battle tactician, but that's when he's leading a force. Solo, he's an accplished fighter. But then so is Bats.

 

[NightRiver]

Captain America should beat Batman the same way Deathstroke beat the hell out of Batman. Cap(like DeathStroke) is enhanced, hes faster and stronger.

 

[roach]

Tactics can be solo or battle field....

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Even Marvel vs DC clearly showed Batman struggling to keep up with Captain America...in fact, Bats only "won" because a water main just happened to conviently burst onto Cap, throwing him off balance.

That was more a popularity contest than anything else.

I think Batman backing down from Cap in JLA/Avengers was a much fairer representation.

 

[Majin Boo]

Even Marvel vs DC clearly showed Batman struggling to keep up with Captain America...in fact, Bats only "won" because a water main just happened to conviently burst onto Cap, throwing him off balance.

That was more a popularity contest than anything else.

I think Batman backing down from Cap in JLA/Avengers was a much fairer representation.

no, Batman won in the comic because people voted that way .
Anyways, I give it to cap.

 

[roach]

hence the phrase
"That was more a popularity contest than anything else."